OT Alternators from AutoZone?
12-18-2003, 11:05 AM
#31
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Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Same thing for Canadian Tire starters.
I was replacing them on my 88YJ every winter,
JUST after the year long warrenty ran out.
Finally went to the dealer.
Clem wrote:
> AutoZone alternators are very cheaply rebuilt units. I have had cars go
> through them like this.
>
> I took an AutoZone alternator to the local rebuild 'em shop and they advised
> against rebuilding it. They said AutoZone uses absolutely bottom of the
> barrel internal parts that make it not even worth rebuilding again.
>
> The lady suggested I go to a junkyard and get an OEM alternator (she told me
> a little trick to tell if they've been rebuilt already or not). I took that
> junkyard alternator to her and she checked it out. It checked out great and
> lasted..... well it's still lasting 3 years later.
>
> Go OEM unless it's really easy to change your alternator. I think it'd do
> AutoZone some good to have to continuously replace their junk alternators. I
> wonder if it'll do any good?
>
>
I was replacing them on my 88YJ every winter,
JUST after the year long warrenty ran out.
Finally went to the dealer.
Clem wrote:
> AutoZone alternators are very cheaply rebuilt units. I have had cars go
> through them like this.
>
> I took an AutoZone alternator to the local rebuild 'em shop and they advised
> against rebuilding it. They said AutoZone uses absolutely bottom of the
> barrel internal parts that make it not even worth rebuilding again.
>
> The lady suggested I go to a junkyard and get an OEM alternator (she told me
> a little trick to tell if they've been rebuilt already or not). I took that
> junkyard alternator to her and she checked it out. It checked out great and
> lasted..... well it's still lasting 3 years later.
>
> Go OEM unless it's really easy to change your alternator. I think it'd do
> AutoZone some good to have to continuously replace their junk alternators. I
> wonder if it'll do any good?
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:20 AM
#32
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Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
70A should be enough to handle the electrical loads of a factory-equipped
vehicle. Many others have stated that AZ is junk, much like most
aftermarket remanufacturers, they rebuild these things at the absolute
lowest cost possible. In this case, it is especially true that you "get
what you pay for".
Make sure that the connector that plugs into the alternator isn't damaged.
Sometimes the terminals will ------ and give you a voltage drop across the
connector. Other than that, you likely need to just get another alternator.
I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers, but GM gives a 12/12
warranty on their stuff. It sounds like a small warranty compared to AZ,
but if it is junk, it will fail long before 12 months is up.
The OE alternator likely lasted many years, it just makes sense to replace
it with OE when the time comes.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
vehicle. Many others have stated that AZ is junk, much like most
aftermarket remanufacturers, they rebuild these things at the absolute
lowest cost possible. In this case, it is especially true that you "get
what you pay for".
Make sure that the connector that plugs into the alternator isn't damaged.
Sometimes the terminals will ------ and give you a voltage drop across the
connector. Other than that, you likely need to just get another alternator.
I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers, but GM gives a 12/12
warranty on their stuff. It sounds like a small warranty compared to AZ,
but if it is junk, it will fail long before 12 months is up.
The OE alternator likely lasted many years, it just makes sense to replace
it with OE when the time comes.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:20 AM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
70A should be enough to handle the electrical loads of a factory-equipped
vehicle. Many others have stated that AZ is junk, much like most
aftermarket remanufacturers, they rebuild these things at the absolute
lowest cost possible. In this case, it is especially true that you "get
what you pay for".
Make sure that the connector that plugs into the alternator isn't damaged.
Sometimes the terminals will ------ and give you a voltage drop across the
connector. Other than that, you likely need to just get another alternator.
I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers, but GM gives a 12/12
warranty on their stuff. It sounds like a small warranty compared to AZ,
but if it is junk, it will fail long before 12 months is up.
The OE alternator likely lasted many years, it just makes sense to replace
it with OE when the time comes.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
vehicle. Many others have stated that AZ is junk, much like most
aftermarket remanufacturers, they rebuild these things at the absolute
lowest cost possible. In this case, it is especially true that you "get
what you pay for".
Make sure that the connector that plugs into the alternator isn't damaged.
Sometimes the terminals will ------ and give you a voltage drop across the
connector. Other than that, you likely need to just get another alternator.
I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers, but GM gives a 12/12
warranty on their stuff. It sounds like a small warranty compared to AZ,
but if it is junk, it will fail long before 12 months is up.
The OE alternator likely lasted many years, it just makes sense to replace
it with OE when the time comes.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:20 AM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
70A should be enough to handle the electrical loads of a factory-equipped
vehicle. Many others have stated that AZ is junk, much like most
aftermarket remanufacturers, they rebuild these things at the absolute
lowest cost possible. In this case, it is especially true that you "get
what you pay for".
Make sure that the connector that plugs into the alternator isn't damaged.
Sometimes the terminals will ------ and give you a voltage drop across the
connector. Other than that, you likely need to just get another alternator.
I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers, but GM gives a 12/12
warranty on their stuff. It sounds like a small warranty compared to AZ,
but if it is junk, it will fail long before 12 months is up.
The OE alternator likely lasted many years, it just makes sense to replace
it with OE when the time comes.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
vehicle. Many others have stated that AZ is junk, much like most
aftermarket remanufacturers, they rebuild these things at the absolute
lowest cost possible. In this case, it is especially true that you "get
what you pay for".
Make sure that the connector that plugs into the alternator isn't damaged.
Sometimes the terminals will ------ and give you a voltage drop across the
connector. Other than that, you likely need to just get another alternator.
I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers, but GM gives a 12/12
warranty on their stuff. It sounds like a small warranty compared to AZ,
but if it is junk, it will fail long before 12 months is up.
The OE alternator likely lasted many years, it just makes sense to replace
it with OE when the time comes.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:25 AM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to figure
out.
It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is the
ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to figure
out.
It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is the
ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:25 AM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to figure
out.
It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is the
ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to figure
out.
It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is the
ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:25 AM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
Sorry, Paul, I forgot to answer your question. No, the dealer guys won't
give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to figure
out.
It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is the
ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
give you a problem with the fact that you have aftermarket parts on your
vehicle. Don't be surprised, however, when they tell you that you need a
new alternator. Like I said before, at the very least, they are taking
responsibility for making the correct repair when they sell you an
alternator. If it fails after that, you can take it back to them to figure
out.
It isn't outside the realm of possibility that there is something else
wrong, but it just isn't likely. The first thing that comes to mind is the
ammeter, if equipped. They notoriously ruin alternators. Much more
reliable is the voltmeter. If you have an ammeter on the dash, try
unplugging it and see if the alternator lasts longer.
Jerry
"Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Jerry,
> I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
remember
> had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big stereos,
> etc.
>
> Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work. If
> this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer. Question
> is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire. The
> blue
> > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that connector.
> >
> > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> parts.
> > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
suggest
> > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very least,
> you
> > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
Ford
> > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
had
> > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:--------------------
> > >
> > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many consecutive
> bad
> > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > regulator?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:27 AM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d39c$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers>
You know what? I just realized that we were talking about the Nissan. I
was little confused. The advice remains the same, however.
Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:27 AM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d39c$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers>
You know what? I just realized that we were talking about the Nissan. I
was little confused. The advice remains the same, however.
Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
12-18-2003, 11:27 AM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: OT Alternators from AutoZone?
"Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
news:3fe1d39c$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net...
> I don't know specifically about Chrysler dealers>
You know what? I just realized that we were talking about the Nissan. I
was little confused. The advice remains the same, however.
Jerry
> "Paul Brogren" <pibrogren@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:brsgrm$71f03$1@ID-190695.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Jerry,
> > I've got one more idea that might explain this. The OEM unit if I
> remember
> > had an output of 80 Amps. The AZ unit has 70 Amps. Could these 70 Amp
> > units be just working too hard and smoking out (under sized)? Seems odd
> > though because I don't any extra electric things like lights, big
stereos,
> > etc.
> >
> > Second, I'm planning to pick up a NAPA unit (80Amps)today after work.
If
> > this one smokes out I plan then to bring the car to the dealer.
Question
> > is, if I then put the warrantee NAPA unit in the car and take it to the
> > dealer, will they put up a hassle because it's not a new unit from them?
> > Since theres a problem in the charging system.
> > "Jerry Newton" <fig@mcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fe1bd58$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > > Hey, Bill, that plug was there to keep the car from catching fire.
The
> > blue
> > > oval guys were having a lot of cars burn down because of that
connector.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, you guys are making a lot of good arguments for buying OEM
> > parts.
> > > I am 100% in favor of that. In fact, I will go a step further and
> suggest
> > > that you have a dealer guy look at it and repair it. At the very
least,
> > you
> > > would then have a scapegoat if it didn't work.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > >
> > > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3FE15865.55E6766A@***.net...
> > > > Got to be a weak connection on the alternator's battery plug.
> Ford
> > > > had a bad harness for '89 and I was supposed to solder in a new plug
> > > > before Kragen would guaranty it. It lasted about five years before I
> had
> > > > to warrantee it, I guess I forgot to install the plug:
> > > > http://www.----------.com/alternatorPlug.jpg ;-)
> > > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:--------------------
> > > >
> > > > Nathan Collier wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ok. it just really seems odd that you would get so many
consecutive
> > bad
> > > > > alternators. out of curiosity, is that an internal or external
> > > regulator?
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Nathan W. Collier
> > > > > http://7SlotGrille.com
> > > > > http://UtilityOffRoad.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>