Well, you said it...

You had a dead engine before 100 K miles.

Most folks get 200 to 300K before they have to do engine work on the
258's or 4.0's.

Your method obviously doesn't work at all....

Oil builds up contaminants from combustion and needs to be changed on a
regular schedule no matter how fancy the oil....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Lloyd Hanning wrote:
>
> Yeah, Skip, my perception is that the name brand filters are the way to go.
> The key word here is PERCEPTION. I don't have any data to support that.
> Speaking of oil:
> When I bought my '78 Cherokee w/258 new, I drove it home, drained the oil
> and put Mobile one in it. Every 1000 miles I would take off the filter, pour
> what I could from the filter back into the crankcase, then put on a new
> filter and top off the oil. It now has ~ 130K miles on it. Hard, stop and go
> miles. I replaced the lifters a few years ago and that was the only time
> I've ever changed the oil. The valve train was SPOTLESS, no sludge, no
> nothing, just a light coating of Mobile one. I just ordered an '04 Rubicon,
> and am thinking of using the same procedure with that.
>
> Lloyd
>
> <Skip> wrote in message news:bvelcn02e8o@enews4.newsguy.com...
> > Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
> > holds oil back in the filter?
> >
> > What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
> > which should be a good thing.
> >
> > I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain
> back
> > down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
> >
> > Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
> >
> > What experience have you guys had with this filter?
> >
> > --
> > Skip
> >
> >
> >

 

I have this silly tendency to read my owners manuals for my vehicles.

Both of my Jeeps state to check the oil cold first thing in the morning
before starting the engine.

This gives lots of time for the oil to drain down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Skip wrote:
>
> Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
> holds oil back in the filter?
>
> What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
> which should be a good thing.
>
> I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain back
> down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
>
> Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
>
> What experience have you guys had with this filter?
>
> --
> Skip

 

I have this silly tendency to read my owners manuals for my vehicles.

Both of my Jeeps state to check the oil cold first thing in the morning
before starting the engine.

This gives lots of time for the oil to drain down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Skip wrote:
>
> Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
> holds oil back in the filter?
>
> What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
> which should be a good thing.
>
> I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain back
> down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
>
> Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
>
> What experience have you guys had with this filter?
>
> --
> Skip

 

I have this silly tendency to read my owners manuals for my vehicles.

Both of my Jeeps state to check the oil cold first thing in the morning
before starting the engine.

This gives lots of time for the oil to drain down.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Skip wrote:
>
> Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
> holds oil back in the filter?
>
> What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
> which should be a good thing.
>
> I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain back
> down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
>
> Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
>
> What experience have you guys had with this filter?
>
> --
> Skip

 

Mopar has a good reputation from what I have heard.

I am even running Mopar wires in my CJ7 (and Cherokee I think).

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

FrankW wrote:
>
> What about Mopar oil filters?
> Are they any good?
> I use them exclusively as they're about the same
> price or less than Crappy Tire's premium filters
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > Fram no longer has a good reputation, at least not what it used to be. It's
> > not a brand that I will use in my TJ. Lots of good filters available that
> > are far better... AC-Delco Duraguard, Purolator PureOne, Wicks, Mobil-1,
> > K&N... I use either AC-Delco's Duraguard or Purolator's PureOne, whichever I
> > can find because they both did very well in the filter tests I've read over
> > the years.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > <Skip> wrote in message news:bvelcn02e8o@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >
> >>Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
> >>holds oil back in the filter?
> >>
> >>What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
> >>which should be a good thing.
> >>
> >>I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain
> >
> > back
> >
> >>down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
> >>
> >>Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
> >>
> >>What experience have you guys had with this filter?
> >>
> >>--
> >>Skip
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

Mopar has a good reputation from what I have heard.

I am even running Mopar wires in my CJ7 (and Cherokee I think).

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

FrankW wrote:
>
> What about Mopar oil filters?
> Are they any good?
> I use them exclusively as they're about the same
> price or less than Crappy Tire's premium filters
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > Fram no longer has a good reputation, at least not what it used to be. It's
> > not a brand that I will use in my TJ. Lots of good filters available that
> > are far better... AC-Delco Duraguard, Purolator PureOne, Wicks, Mobil-1,
> > K&N... I use either AC-Delco's Duraguard or Purolator's PureOne, whichever I
> > can find because they both did very well in the filter tests I've read over
> > the years.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > <Skip> wrote in message news:bvelcn02e8o@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >
> >>Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
> >>holds oil back in the filter?
> >>
> >>What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
> >>which should be a good thing.
> >>
> >>I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain
> >
> > back
> >
> >>down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
> >>
> >>Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
> >>
> >>What experience have you guys had with this filter?
> >>
> >>--
> >>Skip
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

Mopar has a good reputation from what I have heard.

I am even running Mopar wires in my CJ7 (and Cherokee I think).

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

FrankW wrote:
>
> What about Mopar oil filters?
> Are they any good?
> I use them exclusively as they're about the same
> price or less than Crappy Tire's premium filters
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> > Fram no longer has a good reputation, at least not what it used to be. It's
> > not a brand that I will use in my TJ. Lots of good filters available that
> > are far better... AC-Delco Duraguard, Purolator PureOne, Wicks, Mobil-1,
> > K&N... I use either AC-Delco's Duraguard or Purolator's PureOne, whichever I
> > can find because they both did very well in the filter tests I've read over
> > the years.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> > N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> > <Skip> wrote in message news:bvelcn02e8o@enews4.newsguy.com...
> >
> >>Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
> >>holds oil back in the filter?
> >>
> >>What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
> >>which should be a good thing.
> >>
> >>I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain
> >
> > back
> >
> >>down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
> >>
> >>Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
> >>
> >>What experience have you guys had with this filter?
> >>
> >>--
> >>Skip
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >

 

Only Fleetguard on my '00 TJ. Although most people have never heard of
it, it is in my opinon the only filter worthy of putting on my Jeep.
It's only available at OEM truck and heavy duty equipment dealers. The
thing that impressess me is that the filter is manufactured by Cummins
and speaking with a sales rep (for what that's worth) I was told that
when the filter specs, for instance indicate 1 micron filtration,
Fleetguard means for the life of the filter, not just first or second
pass. As far as price they are more expensive then most but like an old
Fram ad said "pay me now, or pay me later."

Skip wrote:

>Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
>holds oil back in the filter?
>
>What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
>which should be a good thing.
>
>I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain back
>down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
>
>Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
>
>What experience have you guys had with this filter?
>
>
>



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Only Fleetguard on my '00 TJ. Although most people have never heard of
it, it is in my opinon the only filter worthy of putting on my Jeep.
It's only available at OEM truck and heavy duty equipment dealers. The
thing that impressess me is that the filter is manufactured by Cummins
and speaking with a sales rep (for what that's worth) I was told that
when the filter specs, for instance indicate 1 micron filtration,
Fleetguard means for the life of the filter, not just first or second
pass. As far as price they are more expensive then most but like an old
Fram ad said "pay me now, or pay me later."

Skip wrote:

>Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
>holds oil back in the filter?
>
>What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
>which should be a good thing.
>
>I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain back
>down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
>
>Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
>
>What experience have you guys had with this filter?
>
>
>



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Only Fleetguard on my '00 TJ. Although most people have never heard of
it, it is in my opinon the only filter worthy of putting on my Jeep.
It's only available at OEM truck and heavy duty equipment dealers. The
thing that impressess me is that the filter is manufactured by Cummins
and speaking with a sales rep (for what that's worth) I was told that
when the filter specs, for instance indicate 1 micron filtration,
Fleetguard means for the life of the filter, not just first or second
pass. As far as price they are more expensive then most but like an old
Fram ad said "pay me now, or pay me later."

Skip wrote:

>Last oil change, I put on a Fram Toughguard filter. As I understand, it
>holds oil back in the filter?
>
>What I've noticed, is that it seems to hold oil back in the block as well,
>which should be a good thing.
>
>I just did another oil change and it seems like the oil does not drain back
>down into the pan immediately agfter shutting the engine down?
>
>Makes it tough to check the oil level with the dipstick...
>
>What experience have you guys had with this filter?
>
>
>



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