Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
08-10-2004, 11:02 PM
#71
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
I just wanted to give you guys an update. Today I took off the axle
and hub assembly. It was a pain in the ***. I followed Mike's
instructions and sacrificed one of the bearing carrier bolts. It took
about three hours of pounding on the bolt. But it is off. The
u-joint is indeed seized up in one direction of articulation.
Tomorrow I will put the new u-joint in and try to get this bad boy
back together. I would like to thank everyone for diagnosing the
problem and giving me the directions to fix it. I am sure I will have
plenty more questions.
Paul
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<41178885.AA299DC@sympatico.ca>...
> To change a front axle u-joint does not require you to take off more
> than the brake caliper and the wheel hub.
>
> You do not even have to unbolt the big 36mm axle nut in the middle of
> the hub, the whole axle slides out with the hub and the u-joint can be
> changed with the axle still in the hub easily.
>
> There are just 3 bolts holding the hub on from the back. Once you
> remove them, you can turn the wheel hard to one side and put one bolt
> back in (I have a spare bolt for this purpose) and beat on it with a
> 'BIG' hammer. You then can cut the wheel the other way, move the bolt
> to the other side and beat on it some more. This will pop the hub out
> of it's mount.
>
> A really good soaking with penetrating oil is recommended for a few days
> before starting the job.
>
> I off road and only get a year or so out of the sealed u-joints, but at
> that age the sealed one will likely do fine for you.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
and hub assembly. It was a pain in the ***. I followed Mike's
instructions and sacrificed one of the bearing carrier bolts. It took
about three hours of pounding on the bolt. But it is off. The
u-joint is indeed seized up in one direction of articulation.
Tomorrow I will put the new u-joint in and try to get this bad boy
back together. I would like to thank everyone for diagnosing the
problem and giving me the directions to fix it. I am sure I will have
plenty more questions.
Paul
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<41178885.AA299DC@sympatico.ca>...
> To change a front axle u-joint does not require you to take off more
> than the brake caliper and the wheel hub.
>
> You do not even have to unbolt the big 36mm axle nut in the middle of
> the hub, the whole axle slides out with the hub and the u-joint can be
> changed with the axle still in the hub easily.
>
> There are just 3 bolts holding the hub on from the back. Once you
> remove them, you can turn the wheel hard to one side and put one bolt
> back in (I have a spare bolt for this purpose) and beat on it with a
> 'BIG' hammer. You then can cut the wheel the other way, move the bolt
> to the other side and beat on it some more. This will pop the hub out
> of it's mount.
>
> A really good soaking with penetrating oil is recommended for a few days
> before starting the job.
>
> I off road and only get a year or so out of the sealed u-joints, but at
> that age the sealed one will likely do fine for you.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
08-10-2004, 11:02 PM
#72
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
I just wanted to give you guys an update. Today I took off the axle
and hub assembly. It was a pain in the ***. I followed Mike's
instructions and sacrificed one of the bearing carrier bolts. It took
about three hours of pounding on the bolt. But it is off. The
u-joint is indeed seized up in one direction of articulation.
Tomorrow I will put the new u-joint in and try to get this bad boy
back together. I would like to thank everyone for diagnosing the
problem and giving me the directions to fix it. I am sure I will have
plenty more questions.
Paul
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<41178885.AA299DC@sympatico.ca>...
> To change a front axle u-joint does not require you to take off more
> than the brake caliper and the wheel hub.
>
> You do not even have to unbolt the big 36mm axle nut in the middle of
> the hub, the whole axle slides out with the hub and the u-joint can be
> changed with the axle still in the hub easily.
>
> There are just 3 bolts holding the hub on from the back. Once you
> remove them, you can turn the wheel hard to one side and put one bolt
> back in (I have a spare bolt for this purpose) and beat on it with a
> 'BIG' hammer. You then can cut the wheel the other way, move the bolt
> to the other side and beat on it some more. This will pop the hub out
> of it's mount.
>
> A really good soaking with penetrating oil is recommended for a few days
> before starting the job.
>
> I off road and only get a year or so out of the sealed u-joints, but at
> that age the sealed one will likely do fine for you.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
and hub assembly. It was a pain in the ***. I followed Mike's
instructions and sacrificed one of the bearing carrier bolts. It took
about three hours of pounding on the bolt. But it is off. The
u-joint is indeed seized up in one direction of articulation.
Tomorrow I will put the new u-joint in and try to get this bad boy
back together. I would like to thank everyone for diagnosing the
problem and giving me the directions to fix it. I am sure I will have
plenty more questions.
Paul
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<41178885.AA299DC@sympatico.ca>...
> To change a front axle u-joint does not require you to take off more
> than the brake caliper and the wheel hub.
>
> You do not even have to unbolt the big 36mm axle nut in the middle of
> the hub, the whole axle slides out with the hub and the u-joint can be
> changed with the axle still in the hub easily.
>
> There are just 3 bolts holding the hub on from the back. Once you
> remove them, you can turn the wheel hard to one side and put one bolt
> back in (I have a spare bolt for this purpose) and beat on it with a
> 'BIG' hammer. You then can cut the wheel the other way, move the bolt
> to the other side and beat on it some more. This will pop the hub out
> of it's mount.
>
> A really good soaking with penetrating oil is recommended for a few days
> before starting the job.
>
> I off road and only get a year or so out of the sealed u-joints, but at
> that age the sealed one will likely do fine for you.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
08-10-2004, 11:02 PM
#73
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
I just wanted to give you guys an update. Today I took off the axle
and hub assembly. It was a pain in the ***. I followed Mike's
instructions and sacrificed one of the bearing carrier bolts. It took
about three hours of pounding on the bolt. But it is off. The
u-joint is indeed seized up in one direction of articulation.
Tomorrow I will put the new u-joint in and try to get this bad boy
back together. I would like to thank everyone for diagnosing the
problem and giving me the directions to fix it. I am sure I will have
plenty more questions.
Paul
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<41178885.AA299DC@sympatico.ca>...
> To change a front axle u-joint does not require you to take off more
> than the brake caliper and the wheel hub.
>
> You do not even have to unbolt the big 36mm axle nut in the middle of
> the hub, the whole axle slides out with the hub and the u-joint can be
> changed with the axle still in the hub easily.
>
> There are just 3 bolts holding the hub on from the back. Once you
> remove them, you can turn the wheel hard to one side and put one bolt
> back in (I have a spare bolt for this purpose) and beat on it with a
> 'BIG' hammer. You then can cut the wheel the other way, move the bolt
> to the other side and beat on it some more. This will pop the hub out
> of it's mount.
>
> A really good soaking with penetrating oil is recommended for a few days
> before starting the job.
>
> I off road and only get a year or so out of the sealed u-joints, but at
> that age the sealed one will likely do fine for you.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
and hub assembly. It was a pain in the ***. I followed Mike's
instructions and sacrificed one of the bearing carrier bolts. It took
about three hours of pounding on the bolt. But it is off. The
u-joint is indeed seized up in one direction of articulation.
Tomorrow I will put the new u-joint in and try to get this bad boy
back together. I would like to thank everyone for diagnosing the
problem and giving me the directions to fix it. I am sure I will have
plenty more questions.
Paul
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<41178885.AA299DC@sympatico.ca>...
> To change a front axle u-joint does not require you to take off more
> than the brake caliper and the wheel hub.
>
> You do not even have to unbolt the big 36mm axle nut in the middle of
> the hub, the whole axle slides out with the hub and the u-joint can be
> changed with the axle still in the hub easily.
>
> There are just 3 bolts holding the hub on from the back. Once you
> remove them, you can turn the wheel hard to one side and put one bolt
> back in (I have a spare bolt for this purpose) and beat on it with a
> 'BIG' hammer. You then can cut the wheel the other way, move the bolt
> to the other side and beat on it some more. This will pop the hub out
> of it's mount.
>
> A really good soaking with penetrating oil is recommended for a few days
> before starting the job.
>
> I off road and only get a year or so out of the sealed u-joints, but at
> that age the sealed one will likely do fine for you.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
08-11-2004, 11:08 AM
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
it must be rusted on.
I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
hours.
Paul
tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
it must be rusted on.
I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
hours.
Paul
08-11-2004, 11:08 AM
#75
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
it must be rusted on.
I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
hours.
Paul
tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
it must be rusted on.
I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
hours.
Paul
08-11-2004, 11:08 AM
#76
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
it must be rusted on.
I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
hours.
Paul
tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
it must be rusted on.
I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
hours.
Paul
08-11-2004, 11:08 AM
#77
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
it must be rusted on.
I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
hours.
Paul
tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
it must be rusted on.
I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
hours.
Paul
08-11-2004, 11:18 AM
#78
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
Sounds like it's time for a new yoke, plus why not just go with a u-bolt
style yoke at the same time which is stronger as well. :)
Jerry
--
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PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
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"Paul" <katarn444@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
> tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
> c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
> bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
> whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
> is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
> pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
> Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
> I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
> u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
> was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
> it must be rusted on.
> I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
> hours.
>
> Paul
style yoke at the same time which is stronger as well. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Paul" <katarn444@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:319414c5.0408110708.39b8a8e9@posting.google.c om...
> I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
> tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
> c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
> bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
> whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
> is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
> pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
> Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
> I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
> u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
> was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
> it must be rusted on.
> I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
> hours.
>
> Paul
08-11-2004, 11:18 AM
#79
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
Sounds like it's time for a new yoke, plus why not just go with a u-bolt
style yoke at the same time which is stronger as well. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Paul" <katarn444@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:319414c5.0408110708.39b8a8e9@posting.google.c om...
> I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
> tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
> c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
> bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
> whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
> is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
> pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
> Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
> I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
> u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
> was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
> it must be rusted on.
> I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
> hours.
>
> Paul
style yoke at the same time which is stronger as well. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Paul" <katarn444@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:319414c5.0408110708.39b8a8e9@posting.google.c om...
> I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
> tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
> c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
> bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
> whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
> is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
> pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
> Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
> I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
> u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
> was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
> it must be rusted on.
> I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
> hours.
>
> Paul
08-11-2004, 11:18 AM
#80
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Re: Opinions on fixing up a 1989 Cherokee Laredo 4x4
Sounds like it's time for a new yoke, plus why not just go with a u-bolt
style yoke at the same time which is stronger as well. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Paul" <katarn444@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:319414c5.0408110708.39b8a8e9@posting.google.c om...
> I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
> tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
> c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
> bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
> whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
> is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
> pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
> Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
> I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
> u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
> was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
> it must be rusted on.
> I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
> hours.
>
> Paul
style yoke at the same time which is stronger as well. :)
Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
"Paul" <katarn444@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:319414c5.0408110708.39b8a8e9@posting.google.c om...
> I am having some trouble getting the the u-joint out of the yoke. I
> tried the two sockets and c-clamp method but it started to open up my
> c-clamp. Yes, I checked the sockets they are the correct sizes, one
> bigger one smaller then the size of the u-joint caps. Some I put the
> whole yoke and two sockets into a vice and am trying it that way. It
> is currently sitting in my basement with about a 1000 ft/lbs of
> pressure on it. Do you guys have any tricks to get them out.
> Remember there is 15 years worth of rust on this thing.
> I had no trouble getting the c-clips off of the good axis of the
> u-joint but the bad axis (seized up axis) clips refuse to come off. I
> was trying to use a screwdriver to open up the clip and pop it off but
> it must be rusted on.
> I have had all of this stuff soaked in liquid wrench for about 18
> hours.
>
> Paul