Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF???
09-02-2003, 07:01 PM
#11
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF??? Photo link!
No no no guys....
The metal backing plate was gone too!!!!!
The caliper piston was pushing directly on the rotor!
Here is a photo that anyone can view, I flipped the broken pad to show
the liner piece still on one rivet.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Yup, you can feel it in the pedal when they break loose from the
> rivets and ball up and push the pedal back up at you, or as you said one
> pulse.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food and
> > my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked the
> > fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> > seemed normal again.
> >
> > On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> > freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got 'some'
> > brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
> >
> > So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
> >
> > Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> > inside brake pad????
> >
> > So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the first
> > two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> > inside pad.
> > The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
> >
> > I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> > the top side.
> >
> > That sure was a first for me!
> >
> > A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and get
> > one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> > drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He has
> > a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
> >
> > Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
> >
> > So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
> >
> > Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
The metal backing plate was gone too!!!!!
The caliper piston was pushing directly on the rotor!
Here is a photo that anyone can view, I flipped the broken pad to show
the liner piece still on one rivet.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Yup, you can feel it in the pedal when they break loose from the
> rivets and ball up and push the pedal back up at you, or as you said one
> pulse.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food and
> > my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked the
> > fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> > seemed normal again.
> >
> > On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> > freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got 'some'
> > brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
> >
> > So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
> >
> > Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> > inside brake pad????
> >
> > So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the first
> > two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> > inside pad.
> > The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
> >
> > I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> > the top side.
> >
> > That sure was a first for me!
> >
> > A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and get
> > one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> > drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He has
> > a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
> >
> > Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
> >
> > So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
> >
> > Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-02-2003, 07:13 PM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF??? Photo link!
DougW wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>> The one that fell apart or disappeared on the passenger side is a
> >>> riveted pad.
> >>
> >> That is odd, Usually the rivited pads get worn down till they are
> >> milling the rotor before pad material falls off.
> >
> >
> > You misunderstand!
> >
> > The whole freaking pad was gone, metal backing part, except for an inch
> > and a half at one end, too!
> >
> > My caliper piston was pushing on the rotor directly....
>
> Wow, now that IS something I've never seen. The clip holding the pad
> to the piston broke. Maby when it was put back in the clips got bent
> too much. I know your not supposed to bend the clips to make installation
> easier, that is probably the reason. But the clip doen't carry any real
> load and I thought the back of mr.Caliper holds them in place
>
> Strange.. Got pics I'd love to see them.
>
> --
No clips on mine, the caliper holds the pads in place on all of them.
Those clips are just for ease of installation or anti-squeal clips.
The pad shattered.
Here is a link to a photo that anyone can view or check on
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4
Or anyone can view this:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>> The one that fell apart or disappeared on the passenger side is a
> >>> riveted pad.
> >>
> >> That is odd, Usually the rivited pads get worn down till they are
> >> milling the rotor before pad material falls off.
> >
> >
> > You misunderstand!
> >
> > The whole freaking pad was gone, metal backing part, except for an inch
> > and a half at one end, too!
> >
> > My caliper piston was pushing on the rotor directly....
>
> Wow, now that IS something I've never seen. The clip holding the pad
> to the piston broke. Maby when it was put back in the clips got bent
> too much. I know your not supposed to bend the clips to make installation
> easier, that is probably the reason. But the clip doen't carry any real
> load and I thought the back of mr.Caliper holds them in place
>
> Strange.. Got pics I'd love to see them.
>
> --
No clips on mine, the caliper holds the pads in place on all of them.
Those clips are just for ease of installation or anti-squeal clips.
The pad shattered.
Here is a link to a photo that anyone can view or check on
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4
Or anyone can view this:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-02-2003, 07:13 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF??? Photo link!
DougW wrote:
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>> The one that fell apart or disappeared on the passenger side is a
> >>> riveted pad.
> >>
> >> That is odd, Usually the rivited pads get worn down till they are
> >> milling the rotor before pad material falls off.
> >
> >
> > You misunderstand!
> >
> > The whole freaking pad was gone, metal backing part, except for an inch
> > and a half at one end, too!
> >
> > My caliper piston was pushing on the rotor directly....
>
> Wow, now that IS something I've never seen. The clip holding the pad
> to the piston broke. Maby when it was put back in the clips got bent
> too much. I know your not supposed to bend the clips to make installation
> easier, that is probably the reason. But the clip doen't carry any real
> load and I thought the back of mr.Caliper holds them in place
>
> Strange.. Got pics I'd love to see them.
>
> --
No clips on mine, the caliper holds the pads in place on all of them.
Those clips are just for ease of installation or anti-squeal clips.
The pad shattered.
Here is a link to a photo that anyone can view or check on
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4
Or anyone can view this:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > DougW wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>
> >>> The one that fell apart or disappeared on the passenger side is a
> >>> riveted pad.
> >>
> >> That is odd, Usually the rivited pads get worn down till they are
> >> milling the rotor before pad material falls off.
> >
> >
> > You misunderstand!
> >
> > The whole freaking pad was gone, metal backing part, except for an inch
> > and a half at one end, too!
> >
> > My caliper piston was pushing on the rotor directly....
>
> Wow, now that IS something I've never seen. The clip holding the pad
> to the piston broke. Maby when it was put back in the clips got bent
> too much. I know your not supposed to bend the clips to make installation
> easier, that is probably the reason. But the clip doen't carry any real
> load and I thought the back of mr.Caliper holds them in place
>
> Strange.. Got pics I'd love to see them.
>
> --
No clips on mine, the caliper holds the pads in place on all of them.
Those clips are just for ease of installation or anti-squeal clips.
The pad shattered.
Here is a link to a photo that anyone can view or check on
alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4
Or anyone can view this:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-02-2003, 08:35 PM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF???
Seen this happen before(worked in a brake shop), rotor was turned below min specs., and the pads were worn, this allows the pad to
slip past the bracket and fall out.
Gordon
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food and
> my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked the
> fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> seemed normal again.
>
> On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got 'some'
> brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
>
> So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
>
> Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> inside brake pad????
>
> So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the first
> two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> inside pad.
> The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
>
> I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> the top side.
>
> That sure was a first for me!
>
> A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and get
> one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He has
> a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
>
> Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
>
> So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
>
> Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
slip past the bracket and fall out.
Gordon
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food and
> my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked the
> fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> seemed normal again.
>
> On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got 'some'
> brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
>
> So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
>
> Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> inside brake pad????
>
> So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the first
> two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> inside pad.
> The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
>
> I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> the top side.
>
> That sure was a first for me!
>
> A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and get
> one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He has
> a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
>
> Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
>
> So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
>
> Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-02-2003, 08:35 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF???
Seen this happen before(worked in a brake shop), rotor was turned below min specs., and the pads were worn, this allows the pad to
slip past the bracket and fall out.
Gordon
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food and
> my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked the
> fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> seemed normal again.
>
> On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got 'some'
> brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
>
> So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
>
> Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> inside brake pad????
>
> So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the first
> two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> inside pad.
> The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
>
> I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> the top side.
>
> That sure was a first for me!
>
> A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and get
> one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He has
> a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
>
> Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
>
> So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
>
> Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
slip past the bracket and fall out.
Gordon
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food and
> my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked the
> fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> seemed normal again.
>
> On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got 'some'
> brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
>
> So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
>
> Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> inside brake pad????
>
> So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the first
> two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> inside pad.
> The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
>
> I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> the top side.
>
> That sure was a first for me!
>
> A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and get
> one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He has
> a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
>
> Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
>
> So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
>
> Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-02-2003, 09:13 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF???
This is just amazing. In your place I would replace the caliper and the
rotor. I might even replace the knuckle. You don't want this happening
again. It could be a fluke defective pad, but who wants to take a chance on
that? Unless you can figure out positively why it happened, it would be
best to be conservative and replace a bunch of parts in that area.
Driving without brakes isn't much fun, is it?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F553B54.1E17D4B6@sympatico.ca...
> New rotor 3 years ago.
>
> The pad shattered. Had one piece left. Less than 20% wear.
>
> Photo of the left over chunk I found here:
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> Mike
>
> Gordon wrote:
> >
> > Seen this happen before(worked in a brake shop), rotor was turned below
min specs., and the pads were worn, this allows the pad to
> > slip past the bracket and fall out.
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> > > All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food
and
> > > my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked
the
> > > fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> > > seemed normal again.
> > >
> > > On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> > > freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got
'some'
> > > brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
> > >
> > > So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
> > >
> > > Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> > > inside brake pad????
> > >
> > > So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the
first
> > > two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> > > inside pad.
> > > The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
> > >
> > > I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> > > the top side.
> > >
> > > That sure was a first for me!
> > >
> > > A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and
get
> > > one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> > > drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He
has
> > > a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
> > >
> > > Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
> > >
> > > So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
> > >
> > > Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rotor. I might even replace the knuckle. You don't want this happening
again. It could be a fluke defective pad, but who wants to take a chance on
that? Unless you can figure out positively why it happened, it would be
best to be conservative and replace a bunch of parts in that area.
Driving without brakes isn't much fun, is it?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F553B54.1E17D4B6@sympatico.ca...
> New rotor 3 years ago.
>
> The pad shattered. Had one piece left. Less than 20% wear.
>
> Photo of the left over chunk I found here:
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> Mike
>
> Gordon wrote:
> >
> > Seen this happen before(worked in a brake shop), rotor was turned below
min specs., and the pads were worn, this allows the pad to
> > slip past the bracket and fall out.
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> > > All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food
and
> > > my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked
the
> > > fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> > > seemed normal again.
> > >
> > > On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> > > freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got
'some'
> > > brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
> > >
> > > So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
> > >
> > > Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> > > inside brake pad????
> > >
> > > So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the
first
> > > two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> > > inside pad.
> > > The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
> > >
> > > I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> > > the top side.
> > >
> > > That sure was a first for me!
> > >
> > > A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and
get
> > > one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> > > drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He
has
> > > a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
> > >
> > > Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
> > >
> > > So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
> > >
> > > Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-02-2003, 09:13 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF???
This is just amazing. In your place I would replace the caliper and the
rotor. I might even replace the knuckle. You don't want this happening
again. It could be a fluke defective pad, but who wants to take a chance on
that? Unless you can figure out positively why it happened, it would be
best to be conservative and replace a bunch of parts in that area.
Driving without brakes isn't much fun, is it?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F553B54.1E17D4B6@sympatico.ca...
> New rotor 3 years ago.
>
> The pad shattered. Had one piece left. Less than 20% wear.
>
> Photo of the left over chunk I found here:
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> Mike
>
> Gordon wrote:
> >
> > Seen this happen before(worked in a brake shop), rotor was turned below
min specs., and the pads were worn, this allows the pad to
> > slip past the bracket and fall out.
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> > > All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food
and
> > > my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked
the
> > > fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> > > seemed normal again.
> > >
> > > On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> > > freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got
'some'
> > > brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
> > >
> > > So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
> > >
> > > Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> > > inside brake pad????
> > >
> > > So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the
first
> > > two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> > > inside pad.
> > > The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
> > >
> > > I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> > > the top side.
> > >
> > > That sure was a first for me!
> > >
> > > A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and
get
> > > one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> > > drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He
has
> > > a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
> > >
> > > Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
> > >
> > > So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
> > >
> > > Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
rotor. I might even replace the knuckle. You don't want this happening
again. It could be a fluke defective pad, but who wants to take a chance on
that? Unless you can figure out positively why it happened, it would be
best to be conservative and replace a bunch of parts in that area.
Driving without brakes isn't much fun, is it?
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F553B54.1E17D4B6@sympatico.ca...
> New rotor 3 years ago.
>
> The pad shattered. Had one piece left. Less than 20% wear.
>
> Photo of the left over chunk I found here:
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290636987
>
> Mike
>
> Gordon wrote:
> >
> > Seen this happen before(worked in a brake shop), rotor was turned below
min specs., and the pads were worn, this allows the pad to
> > slip past the bracket and fall out.
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> > > All right, on our weekend run we came out to town for beer and food
and
> > > my brakes felt strange with a pulsing pedal. I stopped and checked
the
> > > fluid, it was ok so I drove some more on the bush road and the pedal
> > > seemed normal again.
> > >
> > > On the way back from town I have to slow down for a speed zone and no
> > > freaking brake pedal, right to the floor. I pumped them and got
'some'
> > > brake pedal with the loudest screech you ever want to hear.
> > >
> > > So I use the gears and pull over and get under for a look.
> > >
> > > Well.... I am looking and looking and for the life of me can't see an
> > > inside brake pad????
> > >
> > > So I 'finally' get the wheel off on the 3rd tire wrench, broke the
first
> > > two on that one last lug nut.. and yup, sure as ---- there isn't an
> > > inside pad.
> > > The caliper piston is directly on the rotor!
> > >
> > > I found about an inch of one end of the metal backing pad in there on
> > > the top side.
> > >
> > > That sure was a first for me!
> > >
> > > A couple in a Cherokee stopped and took me to their place to try and
get
> > > one from his parts Cherokee, but we didn't have the right wrench so he
> > > drove me an hour each way to a parts store that was still open. He
has
> > > a CJ5 and just sold his CJ7 too.
> > >
> > > Nice gent, didn't even want gas money.
> > >
> > > So I stuck one shoe in and was on my way.
> > >
> > > Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-02-2003, 11:35 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF???
I showed up for a rotation in my 94 XJ once and the mechanic came into the
waiting area and asked me if I "knew I was missing a brake pad". Right
passenger was completely missing. Just bolts and rotor.
Jim Kelly
94XJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
waiting area and asked me if I "knew I was missing a brake pad". Right
passenger was completely missing. Just bolts and rotor.
Jim Kelly
94XJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-02-2003, 11:35 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF???
I showed up for a rotation in my 94 XJ once and the mechanic came into the
waiting area and asked me if I "knew I was missing a brake pad". Right
passenger was completely missing. Just bolts and rotor.
Jim Kelly
94XJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
waiting area and asked me if I "knew I was missing a brake pad". Right
passenger was completely missing. Just bolts and rotor.
Jim Kelly
94XJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
09-03-2003, 12:17 AM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Ok... So I Lost a Front brake pad?? WTF???
OK OK I gotta chime in. My brakes had a vibration shim platebehind the pad.
It worked its way loose and landed against part of the rotor where it cut a
perfect slot all the way around the rotor hub part where the wheel lug
studs go through. It almost chopped the disk off! I really should have taken
a picture.
KH
"Jim Kelly" <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gkd5b.257696$Oz4.68071@rwcrnsc54...
> I showed up for a rotation in my 94 XJ once and the mechanic came into the
> waiting area and asked me if I "knew I was missing a brake pad". Right
> passenger was completely missing. Just bolts and rotor.
>
> Jim Kelly
> 94XJ
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> > Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
It worked its way loose and landed against part of the rotor where it cut a
perfect slot all the way around the rotor hub part where the wheel lug
studs go through. It almost chopped the disk off! I really should have taken
a picture.
KH
"Jim Kelly" <corndog__@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gkd5b.257696$Oz4.68071@rwcrnsc54...
> I showed up for a rotation in my 94 XJ once and the mechanic came into the
> waiting area and asked me if I "knew I was missing a brake pad". Right
> passenger was completely missing. Just bolts and rotor.
>
> Jim Kelly
> 94XJ
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:3F54E73E.2DAB5590@sympatico.ca...
> > Anyone ever heard of a pad disintegrating on a Cherokee??
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>
