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William Oliveri 02-25-2004 12:08 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 
Well the funny thing is is I got the same results on a cold engine 150 psi
which is what they told me.

Bill

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:403C254B.547DE005@cox.net...
> Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
> sixty pounds across.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh

4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed

up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I

wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg




William Oliveri 02-25-2004 12:08 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 
Well the funny thing is is I got the same results on a cold engine 150 psi
which is what they told me.

Bill

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:403C254B.547DE005@cox.net...
> Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
> sixty pounds across.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh

4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed

up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I

wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg




Will Honea 02-25-2004 12:48 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 
Didn't he say he checked and got the same readings???

I'm with you; I don't see HOW he got those numbers - unless that "oil"
is tar and he was checking dead cold, so cold the oil on the gasket
held the pressure (not likely!).

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:32:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
> sixty pounds across.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg



--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


Will Honea 02-25-2004 12:48 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 
Didn't he say he checked and got the same readings???

I'm with you; I don't see HOW he got those numbers - unless that "oil"
is tar and he was checking dead cold, so cold the oil on the gasket
held the pressure (not likely!).

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:32:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
> sixty pounds across.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg



--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


Will Honea 02-25-2004 12:48 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 
Didn't he say he checked and got the same readings???

I'm with you; I don't see HOW he got those numbers - unless that "oil"
is tar and he was checking dead cold, so cold the oil on the gasket
held the pressure (not likely!).

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 04:32:11 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@cox.net> wrote:

> Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
> sixty pounds across.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg



--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-25-2004 01:20 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what Ifound
 
Only this time you installed the rings into the cylinder and gaped
them so they would have something to expand into.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bubba Kahuna wrote:
>
> Bill,
> My first gut instinct is that you've blown your rings in that jug.
> I had a BMW that looked like that and when I yanked out the cylinder in
> question, the rings all fell out in tiny pieces. Despite the fact that
> all the rings were broken in several places, there was no visible
> scarring of the cylinder walls. I re-ringed it and gently honed the
> jugsnas well as sticking in new main & rod bearings (just in case) and
> drove that motor for another 150,000 miles before it finally blew (and
> we're talking BLEW).
>
> Cheers,
> - Jeff G


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-25-2004 01:20 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what Ifound
 
Only this time you installed the rings into the cylinder and gaped
them so they would have something to expand into.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bubba Kahuna wrote:
>
> Bill,
> My first gut instinct is that you've blown your rings in that jug.
> I had a BMW that looked like that and when I yanked out the cylinder in
> question, the rings all fell out in tiny pieces. Despite the fact that
> all the rings were broken in several places, there was no visible
> scarring of the cylinder walls. I re-ringed it and gently honed the
> jugsnas well as sticking in new main & rod bearings (just in case) and
> drove that motor for another 150,000 miles before it finally blew (and
> we're talking BLEW).
>
> Cheers,
> - Jeff G


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 02-25-2004 01:20 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what Ifound
 
Only this time you installed the rings into the cylinder and gaped
them so they would have something to expand into.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Bubba Kahuna wrote:
>
> Bill,
> My first gut instinct is that you've blown your rings in that jug.
> I had a BMW that looked like that and when I yanked out the cylinder in
> question, the rings all fell out in tiny pieces. Despite the fact that
> all the rings were broken in several places, there was no visible
> scarring of the cylinder walls. I re-ringed it and gently honed the
> jugsnas well as sticking in new main & rod bearings (just in case) and
> drove that motor for another 150,000 miles before it finally blew (and
> we're talking BLEW).
>
> Cheers,
> - Jeff G


Mike Romain 02-25-2004 01:22 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 
I will take a real close close up look tomorrow when I down load and
magnify, but that looks like gas wash to me.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg


Mike Romain 02-25-2004 01:22 AM

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 
I will take a real close close up look tomorrow when I down load and
magnify, but that looks like gas wash to me.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg



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