Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

I need advice on which way to go on this.

I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
to post these to see what you guys think..

Thanks,

Bill

http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

Have you got a problem Oil Ring on that cylinder?




"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

Have you got a problem Oil Ring on that cylinder?




"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

Have you got a problem Oil Ring on that cylinder?




"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

wow! that's a lot of oil. was the head torqued down correctly? how does the
head gasket look? it could be coming from the valve guides. when you
remove the head gasket, check for runout on the mating surface of the block
and head. it the engine overheated at one point, the head could be warped
and not sealing very well.

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

wow! that's a lot of oil. was the head torqued down correctly? how does the
head gasket look? it could be coming from the valve guides. when you
remove the head gasket, check for runout on the mating surface of the block
and head. it the engine overheated at one point, the head could be warped
and not sealing very well.

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

wow! that's a lot of oil. was the head torqued down correctly? how does the
head gasket look? it could be coming from the valve guides. when you
remove the head gasket, check for runout on the mating surface of the block
and head. it the engine overheated at one point, the head could be warped
and not sealing very well.

"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

Well, here are the things I noticed.

The head bolts, some (a couple) had rust to a degree which made me question
the quality of the ability to retain a torque. Others (about 60% were ok
with a thin film of some kind of oil. The others were heavily satuated with
this funky oil. Man, this stuff stinks like the funk of 40,000 years. I
don't know if this is normal or not or where this oil comes from.

I looked at the valves on #2 and they feel pretty snug there. It felt ok,
both exhaust and intake.


I look at the cylinders and they "feel" good to the touch. Smooth. On the
edge at the area between the cylinders (on the top rim of the cylinder wall
at the area where two cylinders are closest) there is some crusty, looks
like carbon.

The gasket looks good as far as I can tell. There is a "wet" area around #2
bleeding out to the driver's side of the engine.


Anything else I can look for on this?

Thanks,

Bill






"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:7EU_b.2311$oL.1032@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> wow! that's a lot of oil. was the head torqued down correctly? how does
the
> head gasket look? it could be coming from the valve guides. when you
> remove the head gasket, check for runout on the mating surface of the
block
> and head. it the engine overheated at one point, the head could be warped
> and not sealing very well.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
> 4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed
up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
> wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

Well, here are the things I noticed.

The head bolts, some (a couple) had rust to a degree which made me question
the quality of the ability to retain a torque. Others (about 60% were ok
with a thin film of some kind of oil. The others were heavily satuated with
this funky oil. Man, this stuff stinks like the funk of 40,000 years. I
don't know if this is normal or not or where this oil comes from.

I looked at the valves on #2 and they feel pretty snug there. It felt ok,
both exhaust and intake.


I look at the cylinders and they "feel" good to the touch. Smooth. On the
edge at the area between the cylinders (on the top rim of the cylinder wall
at the area where two cylinders are closest) there is some crusty, looks
like carbon.

The gasket looks good as far as I can tell. There is a "wet" area around #2
bleeding out to the driver's side of the engine.


Anything else I can look for on this?

Thanks,

Bill






"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:7EU_b.2311$oL.1032@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> wow! that's a lot of oil. was the head torqued down correctly? how does
the
> head gasket look? it could be coming from the valve guides. when you
> remove the head gasket, check for runout on the mating surface of the
block
> and head. it the engine overheated at one point, the head could be warped
> and not sealing very well.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
> 4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed
up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
> wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Ok guys, here we go. I pulled the head - take a look what I found
 

Well, here are the things I noticed.

The head bolts, some (a couple) had rust to a degree which made me question
the quality of the ability to retain a torque. Others (about 60% were ok
with a thin film of some kind of oil. The others were heavily satuated with
this funky oil. Man, this stuff stinks like the funk of 40,000 years. I
don't know if this is normal or not or where this oil comes from.

I looked at the valves on #2 and they feel pretty snug there. It felt ok,
both exhaust and intake.


I look at the cylinders and they "feel" good to the touch. Smooth. On the
edge at the area between the cylinders (on the top rim of the cylinder wall
at the area where two cylinders are closest) there is some crusty, looks
like carbon.

The gasket looks good as far as I can tell. There is a "wet" area around #2
bleeding out to the driver's side of the engine.


Anything else I can look for on this?

Thanks,

Bill






"serg" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:7EU_b.2311$oL.1032@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com ...
> wow! that's a lot of oil. was the head torqued down correctly? how does
the
> head gasket look? it could be coming from the valve guides. when you
> remove the head gasket, check for runout on the mating surface of the
block
> and head. it the engine overheated at one point, the head could be warped
> and not sealing very well.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
> 4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed
up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
> wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
> >
> >
>
>