L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
sixty pounds across.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
sixty pounds across.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
sixty pounds across.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

William Oliveri wrote:
>
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg

brad smith

It looks like your #2 cyl has oil in it.

Brad.




Just kidding - to get that much unburned oil in the cylinder you
must have faulty rings or very poorly seating valves and valve
seals. Not much other way to get oil in the cylinder. I would
first start with the valves and give them a very close visual
inspection and slowly disassemble the intake valve and check for
any possible leak. If you don't find one it will more than
likely be in your rings on the piston.

good luck-
Brad.


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any
diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have
a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is
screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find
anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like
but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

brad smith

It looks like your #2 cyl has oil in it.

Brad.




Just kidding - to get that much unburned oil in the cylinder you
must have faulty rings or very poorly seating valves and valve
seals. Not much other way to get oil in the cylinder. I would
first start with the valves and give them a very close visual
inspection and slowly disassemble the intake valve and check for
any possible leak. If you don't find one it will more than
likely be in your rings on the piston.

good luck-
Brad.


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any
diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have
a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is
screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find
anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like
but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

brad smith

It looks like your #2 cyl has oil in it.

Brad.




Just kidding - to get that much unburned oil in the cylinder you
must have faulty rings or very poorly seating valves and valve
seals. Not much other way to get oil in the cylinder. I would
first start with the valves and give them a very close visual
inspection and slowly disassemble the intake valve and check for
any possible leak. If you don't find one it will more than
likely be in your rings on the piston.

good luck-
Brad.


"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:c1h29t$1iov3t$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any
diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have
a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is
screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find
anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like
but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Bubba Kahuna

William Oliveri wrote:
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Bill,
My first gut instinct is that you've blown your rings in that jug.
I had a BMW that looked like that and when I yanked out the cylinder in
question, the rings all fell out in tiny pieces. Despite the fact that
all the rings were broken in several places, there was no visible
scarring of the cylinder walls. I re-ringed it and gently honed the
jugsnas well as sticking in new main & rod bearings (just in case) and
drove that motor for another 150,000 miles before it finally blew (and
we're talking BLEW).

Cheers,
- Jeff G

Bubba Kahuna

William Oliveri wrote:
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Bill,
My first gut instinct is that you've blown your rings in that jug.
I had a BMW that looked like that and when I yanked out the cylinder in
question, the rings all fell out in tiny pieces. Despite the fact that
all the rings were broken in several places, there was no visible
scarring of the cylinder walls. I re-ringed it and gently honed the
jugsnas well as sticking in new main & rod bearings (just in case) and
drove that motor for another 150,000 miles before it finally blew (and
we're talking BLEW).

Cheers,
- Jeff G

Bubba Kahuna

William Oliveri wrote:
> I need advice on which way to go on this.
>
> I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh 4.0L
> head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed up.
> Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I wanted
> to post these to see what you guys think..
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill
>
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg
>
>

Bill,
My first gut instinct is that you've blown your rings in that jug.
I had a BMW that looked like that and when I yanked out the cylinder in
question, the rings all fell out in tiny pieces. Despite the fact that
all the rings were broken in several places, there was no visible
scarring of the cylinder walls. I re-ringed it and gently honed the
jugsnas well as sticking in new main & rod bearings (just in case) and
drove that motor for another 150,000 miles before it finally blew (and
we're talking BLEW).

Cheers,
- Jeff G

William Oliveri

Well the funny thing is is I got the same results on a cold engine 150 psi
which is what they told me.

Bill

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:403C254B.547DE005@***.net...
> Show those pictures to the shop that told you had a hundred and
> sixty pounds across.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> William Oliveri wrote:
> >
> > I need advice on which way to go on this.
> >
> > I pulled the head to take a look inside. Please offer any diagnositc
> > direction on determining where the oil is coming from. I have a fresh
4.0L
> > head I can put on here but don't want to do it if the block is screwed
up.
> > Should I give the head to a machine shop to see if he can find anything?
> > I'm going to pull the valves on #2 and see what those look like but I
wanted
> > to post these to see what you guys think..
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/jeep/engine/head1.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder2.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder3.jpg
> > http://members.bigvalley.net/wuji/je.../cylinder4.jpg