The justification for widely dispersed bases was to make it harder for the
Soviets to cause significant damage. Dispersed bases are more costly to run
rather than consolidated ones.

That is the rationale, I don't know that the soviets aren't still a threat
as their WMDs cannot be accounted for.

I don't want the US to be the world's policeman. That was one of the roles
the UN was supposed to fill. It doesn't work though because it is run by
politicians and bureaucrats. And I understand some countries reluctance, I
would not want to surrender US sovereignty to.... say... Italian leadership.




"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:1MGdnVfBd6mVkJ3eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Wish he'd finish his own wars before he tries to finish his dad's.....
>
> Actually, to get back on topic, I think he has a swell idea in building
> new refineries (and nuclear power plants) on the military bases that are
> scheduled in the near future for closing. That hopefully will help to
> bring prices down, since a lot of the recent gas price increases are
> blamed on our current refining capacity.
>
> Though closing military bases during a war might be a questionable
> concept....
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:3f288$43000b1b$42a1cc8c$10977@FUSE.NET...
>> No, he was finishing the job
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:8b-dnarAK7zEm53eRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>> So it was a delayed reaction...
>>>
>>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ce098$42fff815$42a1cc8c$4576@FUSE.NET...
>>>> No, he is just finishing the job that George Sr. started.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:9q6dna7crLlU9mLfRVn-qg@comcast.com...
>>>>> So...W's invasion was just a delayed reaction to the first Gulf War?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44bb8$42ff619e$42a1cc8c$24368@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>>I realize my advancing age sometimes clouds my memory..... but just
>>>>>>who instigated the First Gulf War?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
>>>>>> countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire
>>>>>> region and had already proven the ability and willingness to use
>>>>>> chemical weapons as well as other WMDs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who
>>>>>> was not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack
>>>>>> it with missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent
>>>>>> men, women, and children?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually
>>>>>>> *were* taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never
>>>>>>> actually tried, the Iran war notwithstanding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>>>>>>>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>>>>>>>> Germany and Japan.
>>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> larry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the
>>>>>>>>> conservatives
>>>>>>>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have
>>>>>>>>> frightened
>>>>>>>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>>>>>>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>>>>>>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling
>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about
>>>>>>>>> anyone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>>>>>>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that
>>>>>>>>> is!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives
>>>>>>>>> thinks
>>>>>>>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> blanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and
>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

The justification for widely dispersed bases was to make it harder for the
Soviets to cause significant damage. Dispersed bases are more costly to run
rather than consolidated ones.

That is the rationale, I don't know that the soviets aren't still a threat
as their WMDs cannot be accounted for.

I don't want the US to be the world's policeman. That was one of the roles
the UN was supposed to fill. It doesn't work though because it is run by
politicians and bureaucrats. And I understand some countries reluctance, I
would not want to surrender US sovereignty to.... say... Italian leadership.




"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:1MGdnVfBd6mVkJ3eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Wish he'd finish his own wars before he tries to finish his dad's.....
>
> Actually, to get back on topic, I think he has a swell idea in building
> new refineries (and nuclear power plants) on the military bases that are
> scheduled in the near future for closing. That hopefully will help to
> bring prices down, since a lot of the recent gas price increases are
> blamed on our current refining capacity.
>
> Though closing military bases during a war might be a questionable
> concept....
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:3f288$43000b1b$42a1cc8c$10977@FUSE.NET...
>> No, he was finishing the job
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:8b-dnarAK7zEm53eRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>> So it was a delayed reaction...
>>>
>>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ce098$42fff815$42a1cc8c$4576@FUSE.NET...
>>>> No, he is just finishing the job that George Sr. started.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:9q6dna7crLlU9mLfRVn-qg@comcast.com...
>>>>> So...W's invasion was just a delayed reaction to the first Gulf War?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44bb8$42ff619e$42a1cc8c$24368@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>>I realize my advancing age sometimes clouds my memory..... but just
>>>>>>who instigated the First Gulf War?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
>>>>>> countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire
>>>>>> region and had already proven the ability and willingness to use
>>>>>> chemical weapons as well as other WMDs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who
>>>>>> was not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack
>>>>>> it with missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent
>>>>>> men, women, and children?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually
>>>>>>> *were* taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never
>>>>>>> actually tried, the Iran war notwithstanding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>>>>>>>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>>>>>>>> Germany and Japan.
>>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> larry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the
>>>>>>>>> conservatives
>>>>>>>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have
>>>>>>>>> frightened
>>>>>>>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>>>>>>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>>>>>>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling
>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about
>>>>>>>>> anyone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>>>>>>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that
>>>>>>>>> is!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives
>>>>>>>>> thinks
>>>>>>>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> blanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and
>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

The justification for widely dispersed bases was to make it harder for the
Soviets to cause significant damage. Dispersed bases are more costly to run
rather than consolidated ones.

That is the rationale, I don't know that the soviets aren't still a threat
as their WMDs cannot be accounted for.

I don't want the US to be the world's policeman. That was one of the roles
the UN was supposed to fill. It doesn't work though because it is run by
politicians and bureaucrats. And I understand some countries reluctance, I
would not want to surrender US sovereignty to.... say... Italian leadership.




"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:1MGdnVfBd6mVkJ3eRVn-vw@comcast.com...
> Wish he'd finish his own wars before he tries to finish his dad's.....
>
> Actually, to get back on topic, I think he has a swell idea in building
> new refineries (and nuclear power plants) on the military bases that are
> scheduled in the near future for closing. That hopefully will help to
> bring prices down, since a lot of the recent gas price increases are
> blamed on our current refining capacity.
>
> Though closing military bases during a war might be a questionable
> concept....
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:3f288$43000b1b$42a1cc8c$10977@FUSE.NET...
>> No, he was finishing the job
>>
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:8b-dnarAK7zEm53eRVn-ug@comcast.com...
>>> So it was a delayed reaction...
>>>
>>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ce098$42fff815$42a1cc8c$4576@FUSE.NET...
>>>> No, he is just finishing the job that George Sr. started.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:9q6dna7crLlU9mLfRVn-qg@comcast.com...
>>>>> So...W's invasion was just a delayed reaction to the first Gulf War?
>>>>>
>>>>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:44bb8$42ff619e$42a1cc8c$24368@FUSE.NET...
>>>>>>I realize my advancing age sometimes clouds my memory..... but just
>>>>>>who instigated the First Gulf War?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't a coalition including most of the middle eastern neighboring
>>>>>> countries fight against a despotic dictator who threatened the entire
>>>>>> region and had already proven the ability and willingness to use
>>>>>> chemical weapons as well as other WMDs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't this same despot terrorize another middle eastern country, who
>>>>>> was not in the coalition or threaten it in any way, and then attack
>>>>>> it with missiles he claimed might be carrying WMDs killing innocent
>>>>>> men, women, and children?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:8radnXjSzfB7q2LfRVn-pQ@comcast.com...
>>>>>>> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually
>>>>>>> *were* taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never
>>>>>>> actually tried, the Iran war notwithstanding.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:42FE88C8.8DBD8C42@***.net...
>>>>>>>> I'm glad the Greatest Generation, didn't think that way about
>>>>>>>> Germany and Japan.
>>>>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> larry wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A bleeding heart liberal...well, well. Lets see what the
>>>>>>>>> conservatives
>>>>>>>>> have done since they have been in power.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are in a war with no planned way of winning it. We have
>>>>>>>>> frightened
>>>>>>>>> the daylights out of Iraq's neighbor, Iran, so that they now feel
>>>>>>>>> compelled to build nuclear weapons and have the capability of
>>>>>>>>> delivering them just about anywhere.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> North Korea is a wild card, who knows what is next from them.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After all they a part of Bush's "axis of evil." (Like calling
>>>>>>>>> someone
>>>>>>>>> you don't like a name is going to make them improve.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We just had a major world power, China, threaten to nuke us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Our southern and northern borders are wide open to just about
>>>>>>>>> anyone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How many jobs now have been outsourced?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Large international oil companies pretty doing what they please.
>>>>>>>>> (Please don't let the government interfere with them.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just don't much more of this good the country can take....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know about the rest of you all, but for my money, I would
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> rather see Bill and Monica together again. (Bill Clinton that
>>>>>>>>> is!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So bleeding heart liberals commit adultery, and conservatives
>>>>>>>>> thinks
>>>>>>>>> they can kick anyone's butt.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am sure that I left something out here, but you all can fill in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> blanks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And, now, this takes all, Bill ------ is talking physical and
>>>>>>>>> organic
>>>>>>>>> chemistry like he knows what he is talking about! Personally when
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> see a tree, I don't see carbon. I see a great life form that I
>>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>>> to hug. ;^)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Folks we don't have a chance if this is the best our civilization
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:dbadb$43000c4b$42a1cc8c$11485@FUSE.NET...
> He used WMD on his neighbors and his own people before the war

Yep, he did. We didn't go after him until he invaded Kuwait, though. At the
time, do you think we should have invaded when he gassed the Kurds?

and continued
> to claim he had stockpiles during and after the war.

Which we didn't bother to verify except through questionable third-party
channels.

>
> Just because they haven't been found does not mean they do not exist.

Kind of like W's ANG service records :-)

He
> was unable/refused to document their disposal so there was/is no reason to
> believe they do not exist.

Nice try at proving a negative. I am unable/refuse to document the disposal
of the money from the bank robbery...does that mean I stole it?

Remember when the official Iraqi accounting of all its weapons development
activities was released in early '03 as per the UN resolutions? It was
thousands of pages of documents. The ink hadn't even had a chance to dry
before the White House was calling it a book of lies. I wonder who was the
White House speed-reader....


>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Y4OdnTbfMZPOmp3eRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>> Criteria like that means we should be invading about half the countries
>> in Africa adn removing their regimes. Oh wait, his dad did that in
>> Somalia a month before he left office, hoping to leave the next
>> administration in a quagmire.
>>
>> How many countries did Hussein invade after the Gulf War? How many WMD's
>> did he have after the Gulf War? How much of the no-fly zones did he
>> retake? How many planes did he fly into large American buildings?
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:b3a51$42fffe12$42a1cc8c$6236@FUSE.NET...
>>> He failed to keep any of his agreements that ended Guld War #1
>>>
>>> He continued to attack and murder innocient people.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h9CdnTkQvNT_R2LfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>>> Yep, what did Hussien do since then? Or was W's invasion just a delayed
>>>> reaction? "He tried to kill my daddy..."
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:42FFB526.7414D25B@***.net...
>>>>> Matt?????????????
>>>>> Bleeding heart liberals have such short memories. I guess you
>>>>> completely forgot the reason we stomped Iraq over their Kuwait
>>>>> invasion
>>>>> in '91?????????
>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually
>>>>>> *were*
>>>>>> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually
>>>>>> tried,
>>>>>> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:dbadb$43000c4b$42a1cc8c$11485@FUSE.NET...
> He used WMD on his neighbors and his own people before the war

Yep, he did. We didn't go after him until he invaded Kuwait, though. At the
time, do you think we should have invaded when he gassed the Kurds?

and continued
> to claim he had stockpiles during and after the war.

Which we didn't bother to verify except through questionable third-party
channels.

>
> Just because they haven't been found does not mean they do not exist.

Kind of like W's ANG service records :-)

He
> was unable/refused to document their disposal so there was/is no reason to
> believe they do not exist.

Nice try at proving a negative. I am unable/refuse to document the disposal
of the money from the bank robbery...does that mean I stole it?

Remember when the official Iraqi accounting of all its weapons development
activities was released in early '03 as per the UN resolutions? It was
thousands of pages of documents. The ink hadn't even had a chance to dry
before the White House was calling it a book of lies. I wonder who was the
White House speed-reader....


>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Y4OdnTbfMZPOmp3eRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>> Criteria like that means we should be invading about half the countries
>> in Africa adn removing their regimes. Oh wait, his dad did that in
>> Somalia a month before he left office, hoping to leave the next
>> administration in a quagmire.
>>
>> How many countries did Hussein invade after the Gulf War? How many WMD's
>> did he have after the Gulf War? How much of the no-fly zones did he
>> retake? How many planes did he fly into large American buildings?
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:b3a51$42fffe12$42a1cc8c$6236@FUSE.NET...
>>> He failed to keep any of his agreements that ended Guld War #1
>>>
>>> He continued to attack and murder innocient people.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h9CdnTkQvNT_R2LfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>>> Yep, what did Hussien do since then? Or was W's invasion just a delayed
>>>> reaction? "He tried to kill my daddy..."
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:42FFB526.7414D25B@***.net...
>>>>> Matt?????????????
>>>>> Bleeding heart liberals have such short memories. I guess you
>>>>> completely forgot the reason we stomped Iraq over their Kuwait
>>>>> invasion
>>>>> in '91?????????
>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually
>>>>>> *were*
>>>>>> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually
>>>>>> tried,
>>>>>> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:dbadb$43000c4b$42a1cc8c$11485@FUSE.NET...
> He used WMD on his neighbors and his own people before the war

Yep, he did. We didn't go after him until he invaded Kuwait, though. At the
time, do you think we should have invaded when he gassed the Kurds?

and continued
> to claim he had stockpiles during and after the war.

Which we didn't bother to verify except through questionable third-party
channels.

>
> Just because they haven't been found does not mean they do not exist.

Kind of like W's ANG service records :-)

He
> was unable/refused to document their disposal so there was/is no reason to
> believe they do not exist.

Nice try at proving a negative. I am unable/refuse to document the disposal
of the money from the bank robbery...does that mean I stole it?

Remember when the official Iraqi accounting of all its weapons development
activities was released in early '03 as per the UN resolutions? It was
thousands of pages of documents. The ink hadn't even had a chance to dry
before the White House was calling it a book of lies. I wonder who was the
White House speed-reader....


>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Y4OdnTbfMZPOmp3eRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>> Criteria like that means we should be invading about half the countries
>> in Africa adn removing their regimes. Oh wait, his dad did that in
>> Somalia a month before he left office, hoping to leave the next
>> administration in a quagmire.
>>
>> How many countries did Hussein invade after the Gulf War? How many WMD's
>> did he have after the Gulf War? How much of the no-fly zones did he
>> retake? How many planes did he fly into large American buildings?
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:b3a51$42fffe12$42a1cc8c$6236@FUSE.NET...
>>> He failed to keep any of his agreements that ended Guld War #1
>>>
>>> He continued to attack and murder innocient people.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h9CdnTkQvNT_R2LfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>>> Yep, what did Hussien do since then? Or was W's invasion just a delayed
>>>> reaction? "He tried to kill my daddy..."
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:42FFB526.7414D25B@***.net...
>>>>> Matt?????????????
>>>>> Bleeding heart liberals have such short memories. I guess you
>>>>> completely forgot the reason we stomped Iraq over their Kuwait
>>>>> invasion
>>>>> in '91?????????
>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually
>>>>>> *were*
>>>>>> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually
>>>>>> tried,
>>>>>> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

"Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:dbadb$43000c4b$42a1cc8c$11485@FUSE.NET...
> He used WMD on his neighbors and his own people before the war

Yep, he did. We didn't go after him until he invaded Kuwait, though. At the
time, do you think we should have invaded when he gassed the Kurds?

and continued
> to claim he had stockpiles during and after the war.

Which we didn't bother to verify except through questionable third-party
channels.

>
> Just because they haven't been found does not mean they do not exist.

Kind of like W's ANG service records :-)

He
> was unable/refused to document their disposal so there was/is no reason to
> believe they do not exist.

Nice try at proving a negative. I am unable/refuse to document the disposal
of the money from the bank robbery...does that mean I stole it?

Remember when the official Iraqi accounting of all its weapons development
activities was released in early '03 as per the UN resolutions? It was
thousands of pages of documents. The ink hadn't even had a chance to dry
before the White House was calling it a book of lies. I wonder who was the
White House speed-reader....


>
>
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:Y4OdnTbfMZPOmp3eRVn-qA@comcast.com...
>> Criteria like that means we should be invading about half the countries
>> in Africa adn removing their regimes. Oh wait, his dad did that in
>> Somalia a month before he left office, hoping to leave the next
>> administration in a quagmire.
>>
>> How many countries did Hussein invade after the Gulf War? How many WMD's
>> did he have after the Gulf War? How much of the no-fly zones did he
>> retake? How many planes did he fly into large American buildings?
>>
>> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
>> news:b3a51$42fffe12$42a1cc8c$6236@FUSE.NET...
>>> He failed to keep any of his agreements that ended Guld War #1
>>>
>>> He continued to attack and murder innocient people.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>> news:h9CdnTkQvNT_R2LfRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>>> Yep, what did Hussien do since then? Or was W's invasion just a delayed
>>>> reaction? "He tried to kill my daddy..."
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:42FFB526.7414D25B@***.net...
>>>>> Matt?????????????
>>>>> Bleeding heart liberals have such short memories. I guess you
>>>>> completely forgot the reason we stomped Iraq over their Kuwait
>>>>> invasion
>>>>> in '91?????????
>>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Greatest Generation recognized that Germany and Japan actually
>>>>>> *were*
>>>>>> taking over the world. Hussien just talked about it, never actually
>>>>>> tried,
>>>>>> the Iran war notwithstanding.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

If you want to listen to a Churchill you should read Winston Churchill's
essays from the 30's when everyone was bending over backwards to appease the
Fascists and *****.

Professor Churchill is free to believe whatever he wishes. If the Alumni
Association doesn't agree with him they can take action. A drop in donations
will remove the professor (as long as he is not connected to the football
program)




"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124077208.d12f70ce4cc51ceec1fd06e16c1fce6f@t eranews...
> That's what we say. But if you listen carefully to what our enemies are
> saying, "There are no non-combatants". I don't agree entirely with Mr.
> Ward
> Churchill, but I can see where a "---------" might.
> http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read.html?id=2739 What of Mr.
> Churchill's claim that "a CIA office was situated in the World Trade
> Center"?
>
> It is a strange kind of war, where one side sets all the rules and seems
> to
> have the power, not only to win, but to exterminate all our opponents if
> we
> they follow our rules. What's in it for them, if they do that? By your
> reasoning, a commercial airliner is not a legitimate target either, but
> one
> can't argue with its effectiveness as a weapon.
>
> Earle
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4a381$42fffa79$42a1cc8c$5256@FUSE.NET...
>> The Pentagon is a legitimate military target for an enemy of the US, it
>> is
> a
>> high value installation.
>>
>> An office building is not.
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:1124044101.cddf3162fc3c8844b66ebac5c0a9af81@t eranews...
>> > This is opinion, much like your opinion. Not all opinion comes from
> one's
>> > ****, as yours does. What do you think "international symbolism" is a
>> > symbol of, and who do you think worked in the trade towers? Remember,
>> > they
>> > did attack the Pentagram too, but that is an international symbol of
>> > another
>> > kind of bureaucracy.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ce517$42ff8ad3$453deea8$25919@FUSE.NET...
>> >> > People forget, that the 911 skyjackers did not target New York City
> or
>> > the
>> >> > World Trade Center, so much as the bureaucrats housed within.
>> >>
>> >> And where do you get this information from? Your ****? As far as I
> know,
>> >> they targeted the Trade Center because of it's international
>> >> symbolism.
>> >> It
>> >> had much more impact than running a 747 into the Sears Tower.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

If you want to listen to a Churchill you should read Winston Churchill's
essays from the 30's when everyone was bending over backwards to appease the
Fascists and *****.

Professor Churchill is free to believe whatever he wishes. If the Alumni
Association doesn't agree with him they can take action. A drop in donations
will remove the professor (as long as he is not connected to the football
program)




"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124077208.d12f70ce4cc51ceec1fd06e16c1fce6f@t eranews...
> That's what we say. But if you listen carefully to what our enemies are
> saying, "There are no non-combatants". I don't agree entirely with Mr.
> Ward
> Churchill, but I can see where a "---------" might.
> http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read.html?id=2739 What of Mr.
> Churchill's claim that "a CIA office was situated in the World Trade
> Center"?
>
> It is a strange kind of war, where one side sets all the rules and seems
> to
> have the power, not only to win, but to exterminate all our opponents if
> we
> they follow our rules. What's in it for them, if they do that? By your
> reasoning, a commercial airliner is not a legitimate target either, but
> one
> can't argue with its effectiveness as a weapon.
>
> Earle
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4a381$42fffa79$42a1cc8c$5256@FUSE.NET...
>> The Pentagon is a legitimate military target for an enemy of the US, it
>> is
> a
>> high value installation.
>>
>> An office building is not.
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:1124044101.cddf3162fc3c8844b66ebac5c0a9af81@t eranews...
>> > This is opinion, much like your opinion. Not all opinion comes from
> one's
>> > ****, as yours does. What do you think "international symbolism" is a
>> > symbol of, and who do you think worked in the trade towers? Remember,
>> > they
>> > did attack the Pentagram too, but that is an international symbol of
>> > another
>> > kind of bureaucracy.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ce517$42ff8ad3$453deea8$25919@FUSE.NET...
>> >> > People forget, that the 911 skyjackers did not target New York City
> or
>> > the
>> >> > World Trade Center, so much as the bureaucrats housed within.
>> >>
>> >> And where do you get this information from? Your ****? As far as I
> know,
>> >> they targeted the Trade Center because of it's international
>> >> symbolism.
>> >> It
>> >> had much more impact than running a 747 into the Sears Tower.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

If you want to listen to a Churchill you should read Winston Churchill's
essays from the 30's when everyone was bending over backwards to appease the
Fascists and *****.

Professor Churchill is free to believe whatever he wishes. If the Alumni
Association doesn't agree with him they can take action. A drop in donations
will remove the professor (as long as he is not connected to the football
program)




"Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1124077208.d12f70ce4cc51ceec1fd06e16c1fce6f@t eranews...
> That's what we say. But if you listen carefully to what our enemies are
> saying, "There are no non-combatants". I don't agree entirely with Mr.
> Ward
> Churchill, but I can see where a "---------" might.
> http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read.html?id=2739 What of Mr.
> Churchill's claim that "a CIA office was situated in the World Trade
> Center"?
>
> It is a strange kind of war, where one side sets all the rules and seems
> to
> have the power, not only to win, but to exterminate all our opponents if
> we
> they follow our rules. What's in it for them, if they do that? By your
> reasoning, a commercial airliner is not a legitimate target either, but
> one
> can't argue with its effectiveness as a weapon.
>
> Earle
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:4a381$42fffa79$42a1cc8c$5256@FUSE.NET...
>> The Pentagon is a legitimate military target for an enemy of the US, it
>> is
> a
>> high value installation.
>>
>> An office building is not.
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <nurse--NOSPAM--busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:1124044101.cddf3162fc3c8844b66ebac5c0a9af81@t eranews...
>> > This is opinion, much like your opinion. Not all opinion comes from
> one's
>> > ****, as yours does. What do you think "international symbolism" is a
>> > symbol of, and who do you think worked in the trade towers? Remember,
>> > they
>> > did attack the Pentagram too, but that is an international symbol of
>> > another
>> > kind of bureaucracy.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
>> > news:ce517$42ff8ad3$453deea8$25919@FUSE.NET...
>> >> > People forget, that the 911 skyjackers did not target New York City
> or
>> > the
>> >> > World Trade Center, so much as the bureaucrats housed within.
>> >>
>> >> And where do you get this information from? Your ****? As far as I
> know,
>> >> they targeted the Trade Center because of it's international
>> >> symbolism.
>> >> It
>> >> had much more impact than running a 747 into the Sears Tower.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>