Earle Horton

Good point, but lots of stuff is broken, with people saying it isn't.

I think you're wrong about liberals. They don't think, that policy changes
won't have any negative effects. They just don't give a damn. I have
learned to be suspicious of liberals too, especially when they want to play
with my money.

Earle

"Ruel Smith" <NoWay@NoWhere.com> wrote in message
news:71912$42fe0d20$453daacc$32305@FUSE.NET...
> > I thought that conservatives, were supposed to "conserve" stuff. I may
be
> > confused.
>
> No, they just think that you shouldn't fix stuff that isn't broken.
Liberals
> seem to invision some Utopia, thinking that making policy changes to
strive
> for such a society won't have any negative effects. However, with just
about
> every change, there is both positve and negative effects. Their supposed
> visionary thinking just screws the world up.
>
>

Billy Ray

I have given up on politicians making things better, I have always voted as
an Independent. I vote for the man I think is going to screw thing up the
least.




> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW
>

Billy Ray

I have given up on politicians making things better, I have always voted as
an Independent. I vote for the man I think is going to screw thing up the
least.




> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW
>

Billy Ray

I have given up on politicians making things better, I have always voted as
an Independent. I vote for the man I think is going to screw thing up the
least.




> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW
>

Billy Ray

I have given up on politicians making things better, I have always voted as
an Independent. I vote for the man I think is going to screw thing up the
least.




> You don't vote for the best person, you vote for the least dangerous.
>
> --
> DougW
>

Lee Ayrton

Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
-- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
are a personal memory.

If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.


tim bur wrote:
> yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> a dime a dozen
> a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>
>>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
>>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
>>
>>tim bur wrote:
>>
>>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
>>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
>>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
>>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
>>>months of of causing a glut in the market
>>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
>>>
>>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
>>>
>>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
>>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
>>>>thread.
>>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
>>>>
>>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
>>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
>>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
>>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
>>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
>>>>
>>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
>>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
>>>>
>>>>Let's keep things in perspective
>>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
>>>>gallons)...
>>>>
>>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
>>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
>>>>cents a cup.
>>>>
>>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
>>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
>>>>
>>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
>>>>cents.
>>>
>>>
>

Lee Ayrton

Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
-- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
are a personal memory.

If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.


tim bur wrote:
> yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> a dime a dozen
> a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>
>>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
>>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
>>
>>tim bur wrote:
>>
>>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
>>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
>>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
>>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
>>>months of of causing a glut in the market
>>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
>>>
>>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
>>>
>>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
>>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
>>>>thread.
>>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
>>>>
>>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
>>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
>>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
>>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
>>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
>>>>
>>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
>>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
>>>>
>>>>Let's keep things in perspective
>>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
>>>>gallons)...
>>>>
>>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
>>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
>>>>cents a cup.
>>>>
>>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
>>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
>>>>
>>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
>>>>cents.
>>>
>>>
>

Lee Ayrton

Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
-- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
are a personal memory.

If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.


tim bur wrote:
> yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> a dime a dozen
> a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>
>>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
>>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
>>
>>tim bur wrote:
>>
>>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
>>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
>>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
>>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
>>>months of of causing a glut in the market
>>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
>>>
>>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
>>>
>>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
>>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
>>>>thread.
>>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
>>>>
>>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
>>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
>>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
>>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
>>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
>>>>
>>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
>>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
>>>>
>>>>Let's keep things in perspective
>>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
>>>>gallons)...
>>>>
>>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
>>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
>>>>cents a cup.
>>>>
>>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
>>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
>>>>
>>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
>>>>cents.
>>>
>>>
>

Lee Ayrton

Sonny, I was buying gas when it cost a tad more than three bits a gallon
-- the taxes on a gallon of gas is more than that now. "No Gas" signs
are a personal memory.

If I'm burning 20 gallons a week I'm burning 20 gallons a week. The
demand is the same, no matter how large or small the purchase lot is.


tim bur wrote:
> yes u are burning the same 20 gallons a week but if gas was say a buc a gallon it would be
> no big deal to wait till the end of the week to get gas, think bac to when it was. but people
> now have a mind set they will save cash by topping off their tanks knowing that prices are
> going to rise, and because of this mindset, they are now buying 5 gallons more a week topping
> off the tank instead of waiting to get fuel when the tank gets low so damand goes up big time
> it's a simple case of supply and demand. think this is bull ---- remember princess di's
> beenie babies when she died they were upwards of 500 buc's if you could find them now they are
> a dime a dozen
> a friend of mind who works for a oil company tell me that sweet crude is no lomger used to
> make gas and the refiners now use sour crude and it's the price of that oil per barrel thats
> even higher something like 75.00 bucs a barrel he's say it will hit 100.00 by the end of summer
> then it's going to drop big time. i hope hes right
>
>
> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>
>
>>Please explain: If I'm burning 20 gal/week, how does buying 20 gallons
>>once a week instead of 5 gallons a day reduce demand.
>>
>>tim bur wrote:
>>
>>>lets try not to run to the pump every day to top off the tank thus reducing a higher
>>>demand , lets slow down and reenact the 55 mph law federally, slow down and keep our
>>>vehicles fix when the check engine lite is on. start using concrete and cut down ashphalt
>>>that takes all kind of oil/tar to make and just watch how much oil comes down after 3
>>>months of of causing a glut in the market
>>> gas does not have the shelf life it used to so they do not want to stockpile it
>>>
>>>Cherokee-Ltd wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>From another thread that was veering off-topic...
>>>
>>>>Besides untreated water, name another liquid you can get for $1.50/gallon.
>>>>Bill had mentioned California diesel prices hitting $3.00/gallon in another
>>>>thread.
>>>>http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...-home-business
>>>>
>>>>At first I thought waaa waa waa, it's still cheaper than most countries on
>>>>the planet.... until I did the math! Tonight I paid $.82/L Canadian for
>>>>diesel, after conversion to gallons and into US Funds, I paid $2.54/gallon
>>>>US... hehehe. Unfortunately, regular unleaded in Canada is still
>>>>$2.86/gallon US, almost $.30 higher than California.
>>>>
>>>>It's important for us Canadians and Americans not to whine too much for our
>>>>overseas friends are paying at least twice as much for "petrol".
>>>>
>>>>Let's keep things in perspective
>>>>In fact, at today's price of $63/barrel (petroleum barrels are 42
>>>>gallons)...
>>>>
>>>>A cool refreshing cup of crude oil would cost you about 10 cents unlike the
>>>>thieving pimply faced little girl down the street selling lemonade for 25
>>>>cents a cup.
>>>>
>>>>Slide by your local pub for pint after a hard days work? You'd jump at a
>>>>chance to get your suds for the price of a pint of crude at 19 cents.
>>>>
>>>>If only we could get a 255 ml can of pop for the price of crude... about 9
>>>>cents.
>>>
>>>
>

Lee Ayrton

It depends. If you've got a _lot_ of mousefarts it adds up. A quick
google search suggests that there's about 240 million vehicles in the
USofA, they burn 5.8 billion gallons of gasoline a week. 2% of 5.8
billion is a rather sizable mousefart.


Will Honea wrote:
> You're talking about measuring mouse farts in a hurricane.
>
> On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:39:15 UTC "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Well...... Your demand will be lower because you will be dragging less fuel
>>around on an average daily basis.
>>Day 1 you save 25.4 pounds
>>Day 2 you save 50.8 pounds
>>Day 3 you save 76.2 pounds
>>Day 4 you save 101.6 pounds
>>Day 5 you save 127.0 pounds
>>
>>. An extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>>If you gas up daily to the minimum fuel needed you will increase your
>>mileage.
>>
>>Some of the suggestions below apply to our Jeeps used on the road. Prudency
>>dictates we bring extra fuel and supplies when off-road but do you really
>>need to carry 2 axle shafts, a transfer case, 2 full jerry cans of fuel and
>>another of water and a complete set of tools back and forth to work and the
>>grocery store?
>>
>>Other savings:
>>
>>Drive Sensibly
>>
>>Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration and braking) wastes gas. It
>>can lower your gas mileage by 33 percent at highway speeds and by 5 percent
>>around town. Sensible driving is also safer for you and others, so you may
>>save more than gas money.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 5-33%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.11-$0.73/gallon
>>
>>
>> Observe the Speed Limit
>>
>> Gas mileage decreases rapidly at speeds above 60 mph.
>>
>> Each 5 mph you drive over 60 mph is like paying an additional $0.15
>>per gallon for gas.
>>
>> Observing the speed limit is also safer.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 7-23%
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.15-$0.51/gallon
>>
>>Remove Excess Weight
>>
>>Avoid keeping unnecessary items in your vehicle, especially heavy ones. An
>>extra 100 pounds in your vehicle could reduce your MPG by up to 2%. The
>>reduction is based on the percentage of extra weight relative to the
>>vehicle's weight and affects smaller vehicles more than larger ones.
>>
>> Fuel Economy Benefit: 1-2%/100 lbs
>> Equivalent Gasoline Savings: $0.02-$0.04/gallon
>>
>>Avoid Excessive Idling
>>
>>Idling gets 0 miles per gallon. Cars with larger engines typically waste
>>more gas at idle than do cars with smaller engines.
>>
>>
>>Use Cruise Control
>>
>>Using cruise control on the highway helps you maintain a constant speed and,
>>in most cases, will save gas.
>>
>>
>>
>>Use Overdrive Gears
>>
>>When you use overdrive gearing, your car's engine speed goes down. This
>>saves gas and reduces engine wear.
>>
>>
>>
>>Note: Cost savings are based on an assumed fuel price of $2.20/gallon. (and
>>a weight of 6.35 pounds/gallon)
>>
>>http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/driveHabits.shtml
>>
>>http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-21281.html
>>
>>
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