Lon

Dean proclaimed:

> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:20:46 -0500, "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a busted
>>old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets from old
>>drives are real powerfull.
>
>
> I'm curious about these oil filter magnets. Has anybody actually used one? It
> would seem a relatively simple process to test if they work. Put it on, drive
> around for a couple thousand miles, cut the filter apart and look for metal
> filings under the magnet.
>
> The neodymium magnets used in hard drives go beyond real strong and into the
> realm of dangerous IMHO. (Ask me how I know <lol>. Playing with a stack of
> them + moments inattention = big ol blood blister. ouch! Definitely not a
> kids toy.) If you've never experienced neodymium magnets they are quite
> impressive.

Magnetic plugs for the oil drain used to be more common...back when
engines had more iron in them. You could always just bolt a
magnetron magnet up next to your oil filter if the concept turns you
on.

Lon

Dean proclaimed:

> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:20:46 -0500, "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a busted
>>old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets from old
>>drives are real powerfull.
>
>
> I'm curious about these oil filter magnets. Has anybody actually used one? It
> would seem a relatively simple process to test if they work. Put it on, drive
> around for a couple thousand miles, cut the filter apart and look for metal
> filings under the magnet.
>
> The neodymium magnets used in hard drives go beyond real strong and into the
> realm of dangerous IMHO. (Ask me how I know <lol>. Playing with a stack of
> them + moments inattention = big ol blood blister. ouch! Definitely not a
> kids toy.) If you've never experienced neodymium magnets they are quite
> impressive.

Magnetic plugs for the oil drain used to be more common...back when
engines had more iron in them. You could always just bolt a
magnetron magnet up next to your oil filter if the concept turns you
on.

Lon

Dean proclaimed:

> On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:20:46 -0500, "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a busted
>>old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets from old
>>drives are real powerfull.
>
>
> I'm curious about these oil filter magnets. Has anybody actually used one? It
> would seem a relatively simple process to test if they work. Put it on, drive
> around for a couple thousand miles, cut the filter apart and look for metal
> filings under the magnet.
>
> The neodymium magnets used in hard drives go beyond real strong and into the
> realm of dangerous IMHO. (Ask me how I know <lol>. Playing with a stack of
> them + moments inattention = big ol blood blister. ouch! Definitely not a
> kids toy.) If you've never experienced neodymium magnets they are quite
> impressive.

Magnetic plugs for the oil drain used to be more common...back when
engines had more iron in them. You could always just bolt a
magnetron magnet up next to your oil filter if the concept turns you
on.

Fred W.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:9g6Zc.71600$wo.9992@okepread06...
> Jim85CJ did pass the time by typing:
> >> The neodymium magnets used in hard drives go beyond real strong and
into the
> >> realm of dangerous IMHO. (Ask me how I know <lol>. Playing with a
stack of
> >> them + moments inattention = big ol blood blister. ouch!
Definitely
> >> not a kids toy.) If you've never experienced neodymium magnets they
are
> >> quite impressive.
>
> You should play with the ones from a magnetron for the old long range
radars.
> Those will crush your fingers.

Well, in the name of one upsmanship...

At work I routinely play with 1.5 tesla (and larger) magnets. That's 15,000
gauss or roughly 1500 times stronger than the magnet on your refrigerator.
Unfortunately they tend to be a bit too pricey for people to toss them out.
That and since they are about the same size as your jeep they are a little
bulky.

You couldn't so much stick one to your oil filter as the jeep would stick to
the side of it.
I once saw a pallet jack get sucked 10 feet across the floor onto one.
You'd also have to keep the magnet filled with liquid helium (-450 dgrees F)
or else you lose all the field (superconducting coils).
Oh, and you probably couldn't get your engine to even turn over once you are
stuck to it since the crankshaft is heavily ferrous. I guess they would not
work too well for this application. But just think how clean the oil would
be!!

Well, except for all those pesky non-ferrous metals like aluminum (think
pistons and rods) and the stuff they plate the bearing wear surfaces with.
Hmmm....

-Fred W

Fred W.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:9g6Zc.71600$wo.9992@okepread06...
> Jim85CJ did pass the time by typing:
> >> The neodymium magnets used in hard drives go beyond real strong and
into the
> >> realm of dangerous IMHO. (Ask me how I know <lol>. Playing with a
stack of
> >> them + moments inattention = big ol blood blister. ouch!
Definitely
> >> not a kids toy.) If you've never experienced neodymium magnets they
are
> >> quite impressive.
>
> You should play with the ones from a magnetron for the old long range
radars.
> Those will crush your fingers.

Well, in the name of one upsmanship...

At work I routinely play with 1.5 tesla (and larger) magnets. That's 15,000
gauss or roughly 1500 times stronger than the magnet on your refrigerator.
Unfortunately they tend to be a bit too pricey for people to toss them out.
That and since they are about the same size as your jeep they are a little
bulky.

You couldn't so much stick one to your oil filter as the jeep would stick to
the side of it.
I once saw a pallet jack get sucked 10 feet across the floor onto one.
You'd also have to keep the magnet filled with liquid helium (-450 dgrees F)
or else you lose all the field (superconducting coils).
Oh, and you probably couldn't get your engine to even turn over once you are
stuck to it since the crankshaft is heavily ferrous. I guess they would not
work too well for this application. But just think how clean the oil would
be!!

Well, except for all those pesky non-ferrous metals like aluminum (think
pistons and rods) and the stuff they plate the bearing wear surfaces with.
Hmmm....

-Fred W

Fred W.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:9g6Zc.71600$wo.9992@okepread06...
> Jim85CJ did pass the time by typing:
> >> The neodymium magnets used in hard drives go beyond real strong and
into the
> >> realm of dangerous IMHO. (Ask me how I know <lol>. Playing with a
stack of
> >> them + moments inattention = big ol blood blister. ouch!
Definitely
> >> not a kids toy.) If you've never experienced neodymium magnets they
are
> >> quite impressive.
>
> You should play with the ones from a magnetron for the old long range
radars.
> Those will crush your fingers.

Well, in the name of one upsmanship...

At work I routinely play with 1.5 tesla (and larger) magnets. That's 15,000
gauss or roughly 1500 times stronger than the magnet on your refrigerator.
Unfortunately they tend to be a bit too pricey for people to toss them out.
That and since they are about the same size as your jeep they are a little
bulky.

You couldn't so much stick one to your oil filter as the jeep would stick to
the side of it.
I once saw a pallet jack get sucked 10 feet across the floor onto one.
You'd also have to keep the magnet filled with liquid helium (-450 dgrees F)
or else you lose all the field (superconducting coils).
Oh, and you probably couldn't get your engine to even turn over once you are
stuck to it since the crankshaft is heavily ferrous. I guess they would not
work too well for this application. But just think how clean the oil would
be!!

Well, except for all those pesky non-ferrous metals like aluminum (think
pistons and rods) and the stuff they plate the bearing wear surfaces with.
Hmmm....

-Fred W

Fred W.

"Jeff Lowe" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
news:lZZYc.4845$bD5.3016@trnddc03...
> "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin1777263@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hwRYc.70614$xi6.62186@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I'm now the very proud owen of a new Jeep Ribicon. Cool!
> >
> > Now, should I change the oil after the first 1000 miles, or does Jeep
put
> a
> > special "break in" oil that should stay 'til 3000? How about an Oil
> > (Filter) Magnet?
>
> On a rebuild I change the oil and filter at 300 and 1000 and 3000. Dino
> only, no synthetic until 3000 miles. As to magnets that strap on the
outside
> of the oil filter, I always viewed them as snake oil. Since the filter
case
> is steel I don't see how a strong enough field can get passed through to
do
> much good .

It would because it will temporarily magnetize the steel filter can.
The real question is how much of the metalic particulate is ferrous?

-Fred W

Fred W.

"Jeff Lowe" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
news:lZZYc.4845$bD5.3016@trnddc03...
> "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin1777263@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hwRYc.70614$xi6.62186@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I'm now the very proud owen of a new Jeep Ribicon. Cool!
> >
> > Now, should I change the oil after the first 1000 miles, or does Jeep
put
> a
> > special "break in" oil that should stay 'til 3000? How about an Oil
> > (Filter) Magnet?
>
> On a rebuild I change the oil and filter at 300 and 1000 and 3000. Dino
> only, no synthetic until 3000 miles. As to magnets that strap on the
outside
> of the oil filter, I always viewed them as snake oil. Since the filter
case
> is steel I don't see how a strong enough field can get passed through to
do
> much good .

It would because it will temporarily magnetize the steel filter can.
The real question is how much of the metalic particulate is ferrous?

-Fred W

Fred W.

"Jeff Lowe" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
news:lZZYc.4845$bD5.3016@trnddc03...
> "Fred Garvin" <fgarvin1777263@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hwRYc.70614$xi6.62186@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> > I'm now the very proud owen of a new Jeep Ribicon. Cool!
> >
> > Now, should I change the oil after the first 1000 miles, or does Jeep
put
> a
> > special "break in" oil that should stay 'til 3000? How about an Oil
> > (Filter) Magnet?
>
> On a rebuild I change the oil and filter at 300 and 1000 and 3000. Dino
> only, no synthetic until 3000 miles. As to magnets that strap on the
outside
> of the oil filter, I always viewed them as snake oil. Since the filter
case
> is steel I don't see how a strong enough field can get passed through to
do
> much good .

It would because it will temporarily magnetize the steel filter can.
The real question is how much of the metalic particulate is ferrous?

-Fred W

DougW

Fred W. did pass the time by typing:

> Well, in the name of one upsmanship...
>
> At work I routinely play with 1.5 tesla (and larger) magnets. That's 15,000
> gauss or roughly 1500 times stronger than the magnet on your refrigerator.
> Unfortunately they tend to be a bit too pricey for people to toss them out.
> That and since they are about the same size as your jeep they are a little
> bulky.

Yep. I've seen one of those up at the Physics lab at Oklahoma State University.
One of the PHD's was working on quartz crystals. My job was taking notes and
moving samples between that and the linear accelerator where another student
was zapping them. Yay radiation! Actually the cinderblock walls put off more
radiation than those samples did.

--
DougW