Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
#51
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
Fred W. did pass the time by typing:
> Well, in the name of one upsmanship...
>
> At work I routinely play with 1.5 tesla (and larger) magnets. That's 15,000
> gauss or roughly 1500 times stronger than the magnet on your refrigerator.
> Unfortunately they tend to be a bit too pricey for people to toss them out.
> That and since they are about the same size as your jeep they are a little
> bulky.
Yep. I've seen one of those up at the Physics lab at Oklahoma State University.
One of the PHD's was working on quartz crystals. My job was taking notes and
moving samples between that and the linear accelerator where another student
was zapping them. Yay radiation! Actually the cinderblock walls put off more
radiation than those samples did.
--
DougW
> Well, in the name of one upsmanship...
>
> At work I routinely play with 1.5 tesla (and larger) magnets. That's 15,000
> gauss or roughly 1500 times stronger than the magnet on your refrigerator.
> Unfortunately they tend to be a bit too pricey for people to toss them out.
> That and since they are about the same size as your jeep they are a little
> bulky.
Yep. I've seen one of those up at the Physics lab at Oklahoma State University.
One of the PHD's was working on quartz crystals. My job was taking notes and
moving samples between that and the linear accelerator where another student
was zapping them. Yay radiation! Actually the cinderblock walls put off more
radiation than those samples did.
--
DougW
#52
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
Fred W. did pass the time by typing:
> Well, in the name of one upsmanship...
>
> At work I routinely play with 1.5 tesla (and larger) magnets. That's 15,000
> gauss or roughly 1500 times stronger than the magnet on your refrigerator.
> Unfortunately they tend to be a bit too pricey for people to toss them out.
> That and since they are about the same size as your jeep they are a little
> bulky.
Yep. I've seen one of those up at the Physics lab at Oklahoma State University.
One of the PHD's was working on quartz crystals. My job was taking notes and
moving samples between that and the linear accelerator where another student
was zapping them. Yay radiation! Actually the cinderblock walls put off more
radiation than those samples did.
--
DougW
> Well, in the name of one upsmanship...
>
> At work I routinely play with 1.5 tesla (and larger) magnets. That's 15,000
> gauss or roughly 1500 times stronger than the magnet on your refrigerator.
> Unfortunately they tend to be a bit too pricey for people to toss them out.
> That and since they are about the same size as your jeep they are a little
> bulky.
Yep. I've seen one of those up at the Physics lab at Oklahoma State University.
One of the PHD's was working on quartz crystals. My job was taking notes and
moving samples between that and the linear accelerator where another student
was zapping them. Yay radiation! Actually the cinderblock walls put off more
radiation than those samples did.
--
DougW
#53
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
did any good.
I'll report back after the next oil change.
Dean
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:06:45 -0700, "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net>
wrote:
>Dean, we have been taking old hard drives apart at my work for quite some
>time and you are correct. Those little buggers will definately snap down on
>your finger with no remorse. I had one on my oil filter for some time but
>never took the time to cut the filter open to see the results. Guess I
>should try it again.
>
>Bill
>
>
>> >Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a
>busted
>> >old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets
>from old
>> >drives are real powerfull.
>
platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
did any good.
I'll report back after the next oil change.
Dean
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:06:45 -0700, "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net>
wrote:
>Dean, we have been taking old hard drives apart at my work for quite some
>time and you are correct. Those little buggers will definately snap down on
>your finger with no remorse. I had one on my oil filter for some time but
>never took the time to cut the filter open to see the results. Guess I
>should try it again.
>
>Bill
>
>
>> >Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a
>busted
>> >old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets
>from old
>> >drives are real powerfull.
>
#54
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
did any good.
I'll report back after the next oil change.
Dean
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:06:45 -0700, "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net>
wrote:
>Dean, we have been taking old hard drives apart at my work for quite some
>time and you are correct. Those little buggers will definately snap down on
>your finger with no remorse. I had one on my oil filter for some time but
>never took the time to cut the filter open to see the results. Guess I
>should try it again.
>
>Bill
>
>
>> >Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a
>busted
>> >old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets
>from old
>> >drives are real powerfull.
>
platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
did any good.
I'll report back after the next oil change.
Dean
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:06:45 -0700, "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net>
wrote:
>Dean, we have been taking old hard drives apart at my work for quite some
>time and you are correct. Those little buggers will definately snap down on
>your finger with no remorse. I had one on my oil filter for some time but
>never took the time to cut the filter open to see the results. Guess I
>should try it again.
>
>Bill
>
>
>> >Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a
>busted
>> >old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets
>from old
>> >drives are real powerfull.
>
#55
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
did any good.
I'll report back after the next oil change.
Dean
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:06:45 -0700, "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net>
wrote:
>Dean, we have been taking old hard drives apart at my work for quite some
>time and you are correct. Those little buggers will definately snap down on
>your finger with no remorse. I had one on my oil filter for some time but
>never took the time to cut the filter open to see the results. Guess I
>should try it again.
>
>Bill
>
>
>> >Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a
>busted
>> >old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets
>from old
>> >drives are real powerfull.
>
platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
did any good.
I'll report back after the next oil change.
Dean
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:06:45 -0700, "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net>
wrote:
>Dean, we have been taking old hard drives apart at my work for quite some
>time and you are correct. Those little buggers will definately snap down on
>your finger with no remorse. I had one on my oil filter for some time but
>never took the time to cut the filter open to see the results. Guess I
>should try it again.
>
>Bill
>
>
>> >Oil filter magnets arn't a bad thing but it's usually cheaper to get a
>busted
>> >old hard drive and swipe the magnet out of that. That and the magnets
>from old
>> >drives are real powerfull.
>
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
Hi Dean,
Let us know what you find. It's really hard for me to believe the
particles will cling to the other side of grounded sheet metal. Kind of
reminds me of what snake oil salesman sells for fuel lines. I do use the
drain plugs with magnets held magnetically to them. They have an eighth
inch fur ball stuck to them when I change. And all trucks us magnets
glued to various places in their cases that are not cleaned until the
next inframe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dean wrote:
>
> We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
> platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
> people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
> any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
> when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
>
> So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
> oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
> to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
> every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
> did any good.
>
> I'll report back after the next oil change.
>
> Dean
Let us know what you find. It's really hard for me to believe the
particles will cling to the other side of grounded sheet metal. Kind of
reminds me of what snake oil salesman sells for fuel lines. I do use the
drain plugs with magnets held magnetically to them. They have an eighth
inch fur ball stuck to them when I change. And all trucks us magnets
glued to various places in their cases that are not cleaned until the
next inframe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dean wrote:
>
> We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
> platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
> people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
> any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
> when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
>
> So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
> oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
> to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
> every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
> did any good.
>
> I'll report back after the next oil change.
>
> Dean
#57
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
Hi Dean,
Let us know what you find. It's really hard for me to believe the
particles will cling to the other side of grounded sheet metal. Kind of
reminds me of what snake oil salesman sells for fuel lines. I do use the
drain plugs with magnets held magnetically to them. They have an eighth
inch fur ball stuck to them when I change. And all trucks us magnets
glued to various places in their cases that are not cleaned until the
next inframe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dean wrote:
>
> We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
> platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
> people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
> any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
> when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
>
> So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
> oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
> to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
> every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
> did any good.
>
> I'll report back after the next oil change.
>
> Dean
Let us know what you find. It's really hard for me to believe the
particles will cling to the other side of grounded sheet metal. Kind of
reminds me of what snake oil salesman sells for fuel lines. I do use the
drain plugs with magnets held magnetically to them. They have an eighth
inch fur ball stuck to them when I change. And all trucks us magnets
glued to various places in their cases that are not cleaned until the
next inframe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dean wrote:
>
> We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
> platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
> people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
> any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
> when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
>
> So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
> oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
> to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
> every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
> did any good.
>
> I'll report back after the next oil change.
>
> Dean
#58
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
Hi Dean,
Let us know what you find. It's really hard for me to believe the
particles will cling to the other side of grounded sheet metal. Kind of
reminds me of what snake oil salesman sells for fuel lines. I do use the
drain plugs with magnets held magnetically to them. They have an eighth
inch fur ball stuck to them when I change. And all trucks us magnets
glued to various places in their cases that are not cleaned until the
next inframe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dean wrote:
>
> We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
> platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
> people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
> any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
> when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
>
> So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
> oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
> to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
> every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
> did any good.
>
> I'll report back after the next oil change.
>
> Dean
Let us know what you find. It's really hard for me to believe the
particles will cling to the other side of grounded sheet metal. Kind of
reminds me of what snake oil salesman sells for fuel lines. I do use the
drain plugs with magnets held magnetically to them. They have an eighth
inch fur ball stuck to them when I change. And all trucks us magnets
glued to various places in their cases that are not cleaned until the
next inframe.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Dean wrote:
>
> We've been doing the same thing, tearing the drives apart and destroying the
> platters to prevent any proprietary data from leaving the company. I've had
> people try and convince me that there are programs that will wipe the drives of
> any data. But they cannot PROVE to me that the data is gone. <evil grin>But
> when I'm done with a drive ain't no data ever coming off it again. </evil grin>
>
> So I have quite a pile of magnets, and I'd never thought of putting them on the
> oil filter. They make lousy refrigerator magnets because they are so dang hard
> to get off. Since they are free and can't do any harm I'm going to put one on
> every car I own. And next oil change I'll cut the filter apart to see if they
> did any good.
>
> I'll report back after the next oil change.
>
> Dean
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
"Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:GrqdnUZMxtSqsKvcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> "Jeff Lowe" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
> news:lZZYc.4845$bD5.3016@trnddc03...
<snip>
>> Since the filter case is steel I don't see how a strong enough field can
>> get passed through to do much good .
>
> It would because it will temporarily magnetize the steel filter can.
> The real question is how much of the metalic particulate is ferrous?
>
Hi Fred,
Since you work with the big stuff and seem to be knowledgeable I hope you
can help me on this. I am having trouble trying to visualize the flux path
that would allow any significant magnetization inside the filter. Wouldn't
the filter's case in effect be a magnetic analog of a Faraday cage, or are
the magnets strong enough to saturate the mild steel and establish a free
space field inside the filter?
Thanks,
Jeff
news:GrqdnUZMxtSqsKvcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> "Jeff Lowe" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
> news:lZZYc.4845$bD5.3016@trnddc03...
<snip>
>> Since the filter case is steel I don't see how a strong enough field can
>> get passed through to do much good .
>
> It would because it will temporarily magnetize the steel filter can.
> The real question is how much of the metalic particulate is ferrous?
>
Hi Fred,
Since you work with the big stuff and seem to be knowledgeable I hope you
can help me on this. I am having trouble trying to visualize the flux path
that would allow any significant magnetization inside the filter. Wouldn't
the filter's case in effect be a magnetic analog of a Faraday cage, or are
the magnets strong enough to saturate the mild steel and establish a free
space field inside the filter?
Thanks,
Jeff
#60
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Re: Oil Magnet/When to change - New Jeep
"Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:GrqdnUZMxtSqsKvcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> "Jeff Lowe" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
> news:lZZYc.4845$bD5.3016@trnddc03...
<snip>
>> Since the filter case is steel I don't see how a strong enough field can
>> get passed through to do much good .
>
> It would because it will temporarily magnetize the steel filter can.
> The real question is how much of the metalic particulate is ferrous?
>
Hi Fred,
Since you work with the big stuff and seem to be knowledgeable I hope you
can help me on this. I am having trouble trying to visualize the flux path
that would allow any significant magnetization inside the filter. Wouldn't
the filter's case in effect be a magnetic analog of a Faraday cage, or are
the magnets strong enough to saturate the mild steel and establish a free
space field inside the filter?
Thanks,
Jeff
news:GrqdnUZMxtSqsKvcRVn-qQ@adelphia.com...
> "Jeff Lowe" <jalowe44.del.ete.this@hotmail..com.invaid> wrote in message
> news:lZZYc.4845$bD5.3016@trnddc03...
<snip>
>> Since the filter case is steel I don't see how a strong enough field can
>> get passed through to do much good .
>
> It would because it will temporarily magnetize the steel filter can.
> The real question is how much of the metalic particulate is ferrous?
>
Hi Fred,
Since you work with the big stuff and seem to be knowledgeable I hope you
can help me on this. I am having trouble trying to visualize the flux path
that would allow any significant magnetization inside the filter. Wouldn't
the filter's case in effect be a magnetic analog of a Faraday cage, or are
the magnets strong enough to saturate the mild steel and establish a free
space field inside the filter?
Thanks,
Jeff