Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
#141
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Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on
> a Liberty? What tool did you use
I've been reading this thread since the beginning, and unless the '05
location is different from the '04, I can't figure out what the problem is.
I've changed the filter the wife's Liberty five times over the last year,
and have not had any trouble. I use a filter-end 'cup' type. I go in from
the top. The only thing I can't remember is if I use a 3/8" ratchet, or a
1/2" ratchet w/3/8" reducer.
I have had the cup slip off, but found that once it is seated well on the
filter, it works like a charm.
Larry
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on
> a Liberty? What tool did you use
I've been reading this thread since the beginning, and unless the '05
location is different from the '04, I can't figure out what the problem is.
I've changed the filter the wife's Liberty five times over the last year,
and have not had any trouble. I use a filter-end 'cup' type. I go in from
the top. The only thing I can't remember is if I use a 3/8" ratchet, or a
1/2" ratchet w/3/8" reducer.
I have had the cup slip off, but found that once it is seated well on the
filter, it works like a charm.
Larry
#142
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Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Wow, you are thick....
A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.
Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.
Just my $0.02.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> picture:
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use
A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.
Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.
Just my $0.02.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> picture:
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use
#143
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Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Wow, you are thick....
A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.
Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.
Just my $0.02.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> picture:
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use
A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.
Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.
Just my $0.02.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> picture:
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use
#144
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Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Wow, you are thick....
A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.
Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.
Just my $0.02.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> picture:
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use
A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.
Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.
Just my $0.02.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> picture:
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use
#145
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Wow, you are thick....
A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.
Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.
Just my $0.02.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> picture:
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use
A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
the 'removal' tool last time.
Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
engine out to fix it.
Just my $0.02.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>
> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>
> ===============================
>
> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>
> ===============================
>
> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>
> ===============================
>
> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
> picture:
>
> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>
> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>
> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>
> ================================
>
> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>
> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>
> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
> to a socket wrench
>
> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>
> ================================
>
> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
> Liberty? What tool did you use
#146
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Does the strap wrench just 'slip' when you try to turn it?
It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.
Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.
If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.
Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.
Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.
I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?
We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F47086.9B83022B@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> picture:
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.
Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.
If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.
Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.
Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.
I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?
We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F47086.9B83022B@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> picture:
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
#147
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Does the strap wrench just 'slip' when you try to turn it?
It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.
Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.
If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.
Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.
Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.
I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?
We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F47086.9B83022B@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> picture:
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.
Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.
If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.
Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.
Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.
I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?
We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F47086.9B83022B@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> picture:
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
#148
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Does the strap wrench just 'slip' when you try to turn it?
It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.
Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.
If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.
Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.
Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.
I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?
We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F47086.9B83022B@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> picture:
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.
Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.
If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.
Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.
Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.
I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?
We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F47086.9B83022B@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> picture:
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
#149
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Does the strap wrench just 'slip' when you try to turn it?
It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.
Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.
If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.
Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.
Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.
I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?
We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F47086.9B83022B@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> picture:
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
It may just require a quick shot of solvent like brake cleaner (doesn't
leave a residue) on the filter can and wrench strap to clean off any
accumulated oils.
Install the strap wrench as close to the base as possible and give it a
spin. It is doubtful you will damage the filter.
If it continues to slip you might try laying a strip of sandpaper inside the
strap, the granules will bite into the can.
Perhaps a friend/neighbor with more mechanical experience can lend hand.
Your only other choice is going to your corner quickie lube. Be aware,
however, that they have a reputation for over-tightening filters.
I have one of those cap tools that I got 25-30 years ago and is made of
steel of good thickness, the new ones I see at the auto-parts store look to
be stamped from tin and pretty flimsy. If you want to use one try to find a
stout model. Also they make lots of different sizes, are you sure you have
the EXACT one?
We have all done silly things at one time or another, especially when we
were younger and had less experience...... He has learned a valuable lesson,
now give him a break.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:44F47086.9B83022B@sympatico.ca...
> Wow, you are thick....
>
> A whole new thread and you forgot to show that 'YOU' broke your oil
> filter by leaving the 'removal' tool on it when you 'installed' it with
> the 'removal' tool last time.
>
> Leaving that out of this new thread is BS.
>
> There are no short cuts now, the filter is damaged and put on too
> tight. If it 'wasn't put on too tight, the strap would have worked.
> Simple. The proper tool will now not work.
>
> I would recommend you take it to a professional cheapie lube place and
> play dumb about the damage. Hopefully they don't have to pull the
> engine out to fix it.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Mike
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> gcotterl@co.riverside.ca.us wrote:
>>
>> Removing the oil filter is a bear! Once you push your arm between the
>> tie-rod and the fan shroud and reach the filter, there's no room to get
>> a good grip on the filter to screw it off.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> When my new Liberty reached 2,500 miles, I couldn't get the
>> factory-installed oil filter off so I ended up taking the Liberty to a
>> quick-lube-place to have the oil changed and the oil filter replaced.
>> (Apparently, the factory put the filter without oiling the rubber
>> gasket and must've used an impact wrench).
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Then, at 5,000 miles, I changed the oil and replaced the oil filter
>> with almost no effort. I oiled the rubber basket on the oil filter then
>> snugged up the filter by hand and turned it another 1/4 turn.
>>
>> ===============================
>>
>> Now, at 8,000 miles, I first tried a oil-filter end cup (or cap). For
>> picture:
>>
>> http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/produ...1000242reg.jpg
>>
>> The cup fits snugly over the fluted end of the oil filter. One end of
>> a 3/8" extension bar goes in the square hole on the back of the cup and
>> the other end of the bar goes in a socket wrench.
>>
>> When I turned the cup, it rounded-off the flutes and just spun.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> I then tried a nylon strap-type oil-filter "wrench". For picture:
>>
>> http://www.dodgetopia.com/images/KD-3149.jpg
>>
>> The nylon strap goes around the oil filter and one end of a 3/8"
>> extension bar goes in the end of the handle and the other end attaches
>> to a socket wrench
>>
>> As the extension bar turned, it tightened the strap around the oil
>> filter. When it didn't unscrew the oil filter, I stopped, fearing it
>> would rip apart the filter and I'd have an even more-difficult time
>> getting the torn filter off the mount.
>>
>> ================================
>>
>> Is there anyone out there that has actually changed the oil-filter on a
>> Liberty? What tool did you use
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Re: Oil-filter removal (2004 Jeep Liberty)
Around 8/28/2006 8:21 PM, Eric wrote:
> Yup, that's what I use. Have two sizes for the two sizes of filters my
> vehicles use.
I've also got two of those metal strap wrenches (somewhere).
Wouldn't you know it, this weekend when I went to change the oil the
filter was on about half a turn too tight to unscrew by hand. Of course,
that meant I couldn't find either wrench. So, I ended up using one of these:
http://tinyurl.com/gytef
Worked like a charm with no puncturing and minimal crushing... No big
*** screwdriver needed this time! :)
>
> Eric
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44F3A424.A12D2122@***.net...
>> This is the type I use:
>> http://all-tool.com/BY_MASTER_CATAGO...wrenches_2.htm
>> Slide it up as near the threaded end as possible to avoid crushing the
>> can.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
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~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5
{ }|||||||{ } "MukYJ"
> Yup, that's what I use. Have two sizes for the two sizes of filters my
> vehicles use.
I've also got two of those metal strap wrenches (somewhere).
Wouldn't you know it, this weekend when I went to change the oil the
filter was on about half a turn too tight to unscrew by hand. Of course,
that meant I couldn't find either wrench. So, I ended up using one of these:
http://tinyurl.com/gytef
Worked like a charm with no puncturing and minimal crushing... No big
*** screwdriver needed this time! :)
>
> Eric
> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44F3A424.A12D2122@***.net...
>> This is the type I use:
>> http://all-tool.com/BY_MASTER_CATAGO...wrenches_2.htm
>> Slide it up as near the threaded end as possible to avoid crushing the
>> can.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
--
~/Garth - 1993 Wrangler S 2.5
{ }|||||||{ } "MukYJ"