Hi Earle,
You should buy it, seeing you own a YJ. ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Will,
>
> Something does not add up here.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10fd.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15f.jpg
>
> Even the number of bolt holes is different. I also found a number of bell
> housing pictures on this site. It does look as if you can fit an external
> clutch slave to them, although the pictures are not that distinct, and you
> can't tell for sure. If you ever want to convert back, someone is selling a
> nice BA10 on Ebay, Item 8011677356 ;o).
>
> Earle

 

Hi Earle,
You should buy it, seeing you own a YJ. ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Will,
>
> Something does not add up here.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10fd.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15f.jpg
>
> Even the number of bolt holes is different. I also found a number of bell
> housing pictures on this site. It does look as if you can fit an external
> clutch slave to them, although the pictures are not that distinct, and you
> can't tell for sure. If you ever want to convert back, someone is selling a
> nice BA10 on Ebay, Item 8011677356 ;o).
>
> Earle

 

Hi Earle,
You should buy it, seeing you own a YJ. ;-)
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Will,
>
> Something does not add up here.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10fd.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15f.jpg
>
> Even the number of bolt holes is different. I also found a number of bell
> housing pictures on this site. It does look as if you can fit an external
> clutch slave to them, although the pictures are not that distinct, and you
> can't tell for sure. If you ever want to convert back, someone is selling a
> nice BA10 on Ebay, Item 8011677356 ;o).
>
> Earle

 

Convert back? Surely you jest! That BA 10/5 appears to be in the
same class as the AX-5 and not even close to being enough machinery
for the I6. My simple test was this: lying on my back with the xfer
casr off, I pulled the BA 10/5 back, lowered it to my chest, then slid
out from under the truck. I could use one hand to carry it. When I
started to install the AX-15, I made one half hearted attempt to lift
it into place then went and got a transmission jack. Whole new class
of machinery.

FWIW, it seems that Toyota also used the AX15 in their half and some
3/4 ton pickups. To use it in a Jeep, it requires and adapter collar
between the tranny and the tc. The guys who rebuilt mine before I got
it tell me that they can't get that adapter collar anymore so upgrades
are getting a lot scarcer (and more expensive). My whole swap -
shipping from Oklahoma to Colorado Springs, tranny, tc input
shaft/gear, bell housing, and the entire clutch assembly was right at
$1400.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:06:49 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:

> Will,
>
> Something does not add up here.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10fd.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15f.jpg
>
> Even the number of bolt holes is different. I also found a number of bell
> housing pictures on this site. It does look as if you can fit an external
> clutch slave to them, although the pictures are not that distinct, and you
> can't tell for sure. If you ever want to convert back, someone is selling a
> nice BA10 on Ebay, Item 8011677356 ;o).
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-9gF2hyM7QGpm@anon.none.net...
> > Hard to see the exact difference in the photo, Bill, but the AX-15 fit
> > the same bolt holes as the BA 10/5. The ones I had to fix were just
> > the two bolts for the slave cylinder. I know I had both bellhousings
> > mated to the AX-15 just to see if I was seeing straight. That's
> > probably why I used the old one - had it on the transmission and was
> > too lazy to pull it off again.
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 03:13:23 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@***.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Will,
> > > Then you had to have changed bellhousings, look at the way the AX-15
> > > is bolted to it, which won't even fit the AX-5 setting to our left:
> > > http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Will Honea wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd say it probably is - I went from the frog POS to an AX-15 and the
> > > > clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
> > > > more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
> > > > the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
> > > > shaft to match splines.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea

 

Convert back? Surely you jest! That BA 10/5 appears to be in the
same class as the AX-5 and not even close to being enough machinery
for the I6. My simple test was this: lying on my back with the xfer
casr off, I pulled the BA 10/5 back, lowered it to my chest, then slid
out from under the truck. I could use one hand to carry it. When I
started to install the AX-15, I made one half hearted attempt to lift
it into place then went and got a transmission jack. Whole new class
of machinery.

FWIW, it seems that Toyota also used the AX15 in their half and some
3/4 ton pickups. To use it in a Jeep, it requires and adapter collar
between the tranny and the tc. The guys who rebuilt mine before I got
it tell me that they can't get that adapter collar anymore so upgrades
are getting a lot scarcer (and more expensive). My whole swap -
shipping from Oklahoma to Colorado Springs, tranny, tc input
shaft/gear, bell housing, and the entire clutch assembly was right at
$1400.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:06:49 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:

> Will,
>
> Something does not add up here.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10fd.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15f.jpg
>
> Even the number of bolt holes is different. I also found a number of bell
> housing pictures on this site. It does look as if you can fit an external
> clutch slave to them, although the pictures are not that distinct, and you
> can't tell for sure. If you ever want to convert back, someone is selling a
> nice BA10 on Ebay, Item 8011677356 ;o).
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-9gF2hyM7QGpm@anon.none.net...
> > Hard to see the exact difference in the photo, Bill, but the AX-15 fit
> > the same bolt holes as the BA 10/5. The ones I had to fix were just
> > the two bolts for the slave cylinder. I know I had both bellhousings
> > mated to the AX-15 just to see if I was seeing straight. That's
> > probably why I used the old one - had it on the transmission and was
> > too lazy to pull it off again.
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 03:13:23 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@***.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Will,
> > > Then you had to have changed bellhousings, look at the way the AX-15
> > > is bolted to it, which won't even fit the AX-5 setting to our left:
> > > http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Will Honea wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd say it probably is - I went from the frog POS to an AX-15 and the
> > > > clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
> > > > more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
> > > > the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
> > > > shaft to match splines.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea

 

Convert back? Surely you jest! That BA 10/5 appears to be in the
same class as the AX-5 and not even close to being enough machinery
for the I6. My simple test was this: lying on my back with the xfer
casr off, I pulled the BA 10/5 back, lowered it to my chest, then slid
out from under the truck. I could use one hand to carry it. When I
started to install the AX-15, I made one half hearted attempt to lift
it into place then went and got a transmission jack. Whole new class
of machinery.

FWIW, it seems that Toyota also used the AX15 in their half and some
3/4 ton pickups. To use it in a Jeep, it requires and adapter collar
between the tranny and the tc. The guys who rebuilt mine before I got
it tell me that they can't get that adapter collar anymore so upgrades
are getting a lot scarcer (and more expensive). My whole swap -
shipping from Oklahoma to Colorado Springs, tranny, tc input
shaft/gear, bell housing, and the entire clutch assembly was right at
$1400.

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:06:49 UTC "Earle Horton"
<nurse-nospam-busters@msn.com> wrote:

> Will,
>
> Something does not add up here.
>
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ba10fd.jpg
> http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/trans/ax15f.jpg
>
> Even the number of bolt holes is different. I also found a number of bell
> housing pictures on this site. It does look as if you can fit an external
> clutch slave to them, although the pictures are not that distinct, and you
> can't tell for sure. If you ever want to convert back, someone is selling a
> nice BA10 on Ebay, Item 8011677356 ;o).
>
> Earle
>
> "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-9gF2hyM7QGpm@anon.none.net...
> > Hard to see the exact difference in the photo, Bill, but the AX-15 fit
> > the same bolt holes as the BA 10/5. The ones I had to fix were just
> > the two bolts for the slave cylinder. I know I had both bellhousings
> > mated to the AX-15 just to see if I was seeing straight. That's
> > probably why I used the old one - had it on the transmission and was
> > too lazy to pull it off again.
> >
> > On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 03:13:23 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
> > <----------@***.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Will,
> > > Then you had to have changed bellhousings, look at the way the AX-15
> > > is bolted to it, which won't even fit the AX-5 setting to our left:
> > > http://www.----------.com/ax5_ax15.jpg
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Will Honea wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd say it probably is - I went from the frog POS to an AX-15 and the
> > > > clutch change was just a bonus project while I had it apart. I had
> > > > more grief with the cross member and rear mount than anything else -
> > > > the 94 Wrangler AX-15 went right in and even came with the tc input
> > > > shaft to match splines.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Will Honea
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea