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Lon Stowell 08-31-2003 10:29 PM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
Feh, any time you'd care to learn raw html, css, dhtml, xml,
just cough up a few hundred per hour and buy a good raw
code editor so you can keep up. Notepad is ok for script
kiddies, but if you are not familiar with HomeSite, the
teaching price goes up another hundred per hour.

Or to quote one cow orker's answer to the query on the tools
folks used to maintain information on our internal website,
"Forte Java Compiler."

Approximately 8/31/03 18:22, Tyler Dirden uttered for posterity:

> You will be that Master when you can snatch the NOTEPAD from my hand.
> DreamWeaver, indeed. Learn code, ya knobs!
> :-)
> notice the smiley.
> td
>
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:4kN3b.298149$Ho3.41803@sccrnsc03...
>>
>> Ahhh, little glasshopper. Available with the DreamWeaver/Fireworks
>> suite is the highly powerful tool known as HomeSite. Which is
>> pretty much a glorified PC style emacs complete with color coding,
>> but otherwise an extremely powerful raw html editor. And once
>> you register HomeSite, you can go get TopStyle from the guy who
>> wrote HomeSite originally.
>>
>> Besides, *real* men don't do websites with vi, they use PERL,
>> CGI, JavaBeans, XML, Oraperl, SQL, etc. etc. etc.
>>
>> Approximately 8/29/03 00:49, Dave Milne uttered for posterity:
>>
>> > Dreamweaver ?? What's wrong with VI ? That's what real men use to do

> their
>> > webby intellectual flower arranging !
>> >
>> > ( when I were a lad, we programmed in 2 bytes of memory ... luxury !)
>> >
>> > [ apologies to the Python team - that's Mony Python, not the language ].
>> > Dave Milne, Scotland
>> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>> >
>> > "Jeff Gross" <jeffgross@charter.net> wrote in message
>> > news:vktqvceitm5m7a@corp.supernews.com...
>> > : I looked at the source of their front page.
>> > : They made it with MS Front Page - the Fisher-Price of the internet.
>> > : What a joke. Learn Dreamweaver, ya dweebs! Buncha twits!
>> > :
>> > : Cheers,
>> > : - Jeff G
>> > : http://jeffgross.com
>> >
>> >

>>

>
>



DougW 09-01-2003 01:36 AM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
Tyler Dirden wrote:
> You will be that Master when you can snatch the NOTEPAD from my hand.
> DreamWeaver, indeed. Learn code, ya knobs!
> :-)
> notice the smiley.


Lots of my pages are crafted by good old notepad or Netscape editor/Mozilla.
The fugleiest code comes from word and save-as-html.

--
DougW



DougW 09-01-2003 01:36 AM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
Tyler Dirden wrote:
> You will be that Master when you can snatch the NOTEPAD from my hand.
> DreamWeaver, indeed. Learn code, ya knobs!
> :-)
> notice the smiley.


Lots of my pages are crafted by good old notepad or Netscape editor/Mozilla.
The fugleiest code comes from word and save-as-html.

--
DougW



Lon Stowell 09-01-2003 02:41 PM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
Approximately 8/31/03 22:36, DougW uttered for posterity:

> Tyler Dirden wrote:
>> You will be that Master when you can snatch the NOTEPAD from my hand.
>> DreamWeaver, indeed. Learn code, ya knobs!
>> :-)
>> notice the smiley.

>
> Lots of my pages are crafted by good old notepad or Netscape editor/Mozilla.
> The fugleiest code comes from word and save-as-html.
>

Word html is a thing of beauty and grace and simplicity compared to
the cruft created by Excel.

The biggest advantage of the newer DreamWeaver versions isn't
crafting pages, it is the site maintenance feature. Imagine
you have a few thousand web pages and you want to move or
rename or replace *one* page. You have no idea how many of
the thousands of other pages have links to this page. Yes
with perl, etc. you could fix this. Or just rename the page
and wait for something like dreamweaver to automatically
find and fix every link automatically. As for raw coding,
IMNHO, it sucks compared to HomeSite.


Lon Stowell 09-01-2003 02:41 PM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
Approximately 8/31/03 22:36, DougW uttered for posterity:

> Tyler Dirden wrote:
>> You will be that Master when you can snatch the NOTEPAD from my hand.
>> DreamWeaver, indeed. Learn code, ya knobs!
>> :-)
>> notice the smiley.

>
> Lots of my pages are crafted by good old notepad or Netscape editor/Mozilla.
> The fugleiest code comes from word and save-as-html.
>

Word html is a thing of beauty and grace and simplicity compared to
the cruft created by Excel.

The biggest advantage of the newer DreamWeaver versions isn't
crafting pages, it is the site maintenance feature. Imagine
you have a few thousand web pages and you want to move or
rename or replace *one* page. You have no idea how many of
the thousands of other pages have links to this page. Yes
with perl, etc. you could fix this. Or just rename the page
and wait for something like dreamweaver to automatically
find and fix every link automatically. As for raw coding,
IMNHO, it sucks compared to HomeSite.


Matt Macchiarolo 09-01-2003 09:59 PM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
In article <sVA4b.114380$Ij4.102346@news2.central.cox.net>, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> writes:

>The fugleiest code comes from word and save-as-html.


Damn straight.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





Matt Macchiarolo 09-01-2003 09:59 PM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
In article <sVA4b.114380$Ij4.102346@news2.central.cox.net>, "DougW"
<post.replies@invalid.address> writes:

>The fugleiest code comes from word and save-as-html.


Damn straight.
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html





L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-02-2003 12:11 AM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
http://www.----------.com/notepad.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

DougW wrote:
>
> Lots of my pages are crafted by good old notepad or Netscape editor/Mozilla.
> The fugleiest code comes from word and save-as-html.
>
> --
> DougW


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 09-02-2003 12:11 AM

Re: OFF TOPIC - Truth or Joke?
 
http://www.----------.com/notepad.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

DougW wrote:
>
> Lots of my pages are crafted by good old notepad or Netscape editor/Mozilla.
> The fugleiest code comes from word and save-as-html.
>
> --
> DougW



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