twaldron

Thanks for checking Carl. Checked the site and the 3.5" kit is missing
the upper adjustable control arms and the adjustable ft. track bar, both
of which I would add in. I'm sure the price is comparable at that point.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Carl wrote:
> 4.5" Super flex is $1462, 3.5" super flex is $879, 3.5" standard is $572.
>
> Carl
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:zIH6g.22103$4L1.19570@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>I don't live in NY, so I can't help you there, but I'll toss in my $.02
>>
>>Firstly, I'd suggest stepping up to the RE 4.5". Basically the same kit
>>with taller springs for about the same money, unless the pricing has
>>changed. It will look/function better with your 33s, IMO. RE is a great
>>kit, go with it. Way above 'brand' names like Rancho, Trail Master, etc.
>>
>>Secondly, (I don't know your mechanical abilities) if you have a place and
>>can do the install yourself, you will understand what is going wrong and
>>when, and you can better service and maintain the lift. You will
>>occasionally have to check proper torque on components, lube zerks,
>>replace bushings, etc. Things will loosen up and when you start hearing
>>those klunks, bindings, etc. you can correct it yourself. Don't expect the
>>quickie lube guys to properly take care of your rig.
>>
>>Whatever you do, good luck, and welcome to the NG.
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>Mike wrote:
>>
>>>any recommendations for an installer in the NY / Long Island / Nassau
>>>County area?
>>>
>>>I have a 99 TJ and looking to install a lift kit and install 33's
>>>So far the kit I had in mind was the 3.5" Super-Flex Kit by Rubicon
>>>Express, but I'm not 100% married to it yet. If there's something else
>>>the installer carries and is somewhat "name brand" I could go for that
>>>as well. Only because I trust name-brands a bit better than some super
>>>budget kit no-one's heard of...
>>>
>>>also, any other tips, such as - should I buy the kit online and bring
>>>it, or buy what they have, and how much should I expect as far as time
>>>and
>>>money for the install to take.
>>>
>>>PS, I've been using the car as a daily driver and currently am doing
>>>about 80 miles a day, but next month that will drop to about 20
>>>miles/day - hence why I waited so long to do this... but I still will
>>>be doing some highway miles - so any warnings on the lift or 33's for a
>>>daily driver are also welcome.
>>>
>>>thanks in advance
>>>
>
>

twaldron

Thanks for checking Carl. Checked the site and the 3.5" kit is missing
the upper adjustable control arms and the adjustable ft. track bar, both
of which I would add in. I'm sure the price is comparable at that point.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________

Carl wrote:
> 4.5" Super flex is $1462, 3.5" super flex is $879, 3.5" standard is $572.
>
> Carl
>
> "twaldron" <thomasOBVIOUS@rubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:zIH6g.22103$4L1.19570@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>I don't live in NY, so I can't help you there, but I'll toss in my $.02
>>
>>Firstly, I'd suggest stepping up to the RE 4.5". Basically the same kit
>>with taller springs for about the same money, unless the pricing has
>>changed. It will look/function better with your 33s, IMO. RE is a great
>>kit, go with it. Way above 'brand' names like Rancho, Trail Master, etc.
>>
>>Secondly, (I don't know your mechanical abilities) if you have a place and
>>can do the install yourself, you will understand what is going wrong and
>>when, and you can better service and maintain the lift. You will
>>occasionally have to check proper torque on components, lube zerks,
>>replace bushings, etc. Things will loosen up and when you start hearing
>>those klunks, bindings, etc. you can correct it yourself. Don't expect the
>>quickie lube guys to properly take care of your rig.
>>
>>Whatever you do, good luck, and welcome to the NG.
>>tw
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>>"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>________________________________________________ _____________________
>>
>>
>>Mike wrote:
>>
>>>any recommendations for an installer in the NY / Long Island / Nassau
>>>County area?
>>>
>>>I have a 99 TJ and looking to install a lift kit and install 33's
>>>So far the kit I had in mind was the 3.5" Super-Flex Kit by Rubicon
>>>Express, but I'm not 100% married to it yet. If there's something else
>>>the installer carries and is somewhat "name brand" I could go for that
>>>as well. Only because I trust name-brands a bit better than some super
>>>budget kit no-one's heard of...
>>>
>>>also, any other tips, such as - should I buy the kit online and bring
>>>it, or buy what they have, and how much should I expect as far as time
>>>and
>>>money for the install to take.
>>>
>>>PS, I've been using the car as a daily driver and currently am doing
>>>about 80 miles a day, but next month that will drop to about 20
>>>miles/day - hence why I waited so long to do this... but I still will
>>>be doing some highway miles - so any warnings on the lift or 33's for a
>>>daily driver are also welcome.
>>>
>>>thanks in advance
>>>
>
>

Mike

Thanks guys,
I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for the 4.5"

I was hoping not to spend more than $3000 for the lift + wheels + tires
+ gears.

I'm hearing now that installing the gears is really expensive due to
the ammount of labor is takes.

Still haven't gotten any recommendations of an installer - and I don't
want to spend a day or more doing this stuff - just to find out I'm
missing some tool or some other nonsense and be left with a Jeep in
pieces in my driveway. I like to tinker but at the same time I know my
limits, and I'm not about to take on a project this size...

Got my office move date of June 9th, so no more long highway miles for
me - so it's basically a green light for this... I just would really
love to find a shop that has some experience doing this type of stuff,
that I could go back to if I had a problem down the road.

There's a bunch of speed shops in Queens, along Queens blvd... though
they seem to cater to those little annoying imports... wondering if
that's my best bet around here??


--
Mike

Mike
NY / Long Island
'03 Wrangler X - Freedom Edition
----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com

Mike

Thanks guys,
I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for the 4.5"

I was hoping not to spend more than $3000 for the lift + wheels + tires
+ gears.

I'm hearing now that installing the gears is really expensive due to
the ammount of labor is takes.

Still haven't gotten any recommendations of an installer - and I don't
want to spend a day or more doing this stuff - just to find out I'm
missing some tool or some other nonsense and be left with a Jeep in
pieces in my driveway. I like to tinker but at the same time I know my
limits, and I'm not about to take on a project this size...

Got my office move date of June 9th, so no more long highway miles for
me - so it's basically a green light for this... I just would really
love to find a shop that has some experience doing this type of stuff,
that I could go back to if I had a problem down the road.

There's a bunch of speed shops in Queens, along Queens blvd... though
they seem to cater to those little annoying imports... wondering if
that's my best bet around here??


--
Mike

Mike
NY / Long Island
'03 Wrangler X - Freedom Edition
----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com

Mike

Thanks guys,
I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for the 4.5"

I was hoping not to spend more than $3000 for the lift + wheels + tires
+ gears.

I'm hearing now that installing the gears is really expensive due to
the ammount of labor is takes.

Still haven't gotten any recommendations of an installer - and I don't
want to spend a day or more doing this stuff - just to find out I'm
missing some tool or some other nonsense and be left with a Jeep in
pieces in my driveway. I like to tinker but at the same time I know my
limits, and I'm not about to take on a project this size...

Got my office move date of June 9th, so no more long highway miles for
me - so it's basically a green light for this... I just would really
love to find a shop that has some experience doing this type of stuff,
that I could go back to if I had a problem down the road.

There's a bunch of speed shops in Queens, along Queens blvd... though
they seem to cater to those little annoying imports... wondering if
that's my best bet around here??


--
Mike

Mike
NY / Long Island
'03 Wrangler X - Freedom Edition
----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com

Mike Romain

I don't know about doing a kit like that, but when I need spring work on
my trucks with leaf springs, I go to local truck shops that do big semi
tractor and dump truck springs. They were fighting over who got to do
my little 'toy' truck, but the boss jumped them all and did it himself.
LOL!

These folks sell springs, they don't cater to the niche market of 4x4's
so they don't claim their mechanic's tools are gold plated, or price
them like that anyway... I got new springs, arched for 2.5" with a
replacement pre arched keeper leaf installed for under $250.00 Canadian
a set....

It might be worth a check in the yellow pages and a call...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Mike wrote:
>
> Thanks guys,
> I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for the 4.5"
>
> I was hoping not to spend more than $3000 for the lift + wheels + tires
> + gears.
>
> I'm hearing now that installing the gears is really expensive due to
> the ammount of labor is takes.
>
> Still haven't gotten any recommendations of an installer - and I don't
> want to spend a day or more doing this stuff - just to find out I'm
> missing some tool or some other nonsense and be left with a Jeep in
> pieces in my driveway. I like to tinker but at the same time I know my
> limits, and I'm not about to take on a project this size...
>
> Got my office move date of June 9th, so no more long highway miles for
> me - so it's basically a green light for this... I just would really
> love to find a shop that has some experience doing this type of stuff,
> that I could go back to if I had a problem down the road.
>
> There's a bunch of speed shops in Queens, along Queens blvd... though
> they seem to cater to those little annoying imports... wondering if
> that's my best bet around here??
>
> --
> Mike
>
> Mike
> NY / Long Island
> '03 Wrangler X - Freedom Edition
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com

Mike Romain

I don't know about doing a kit like that, but when I need spring work on
my trucks with leaf springs, I go to local truck shops that do big semi
tractor and dump truck springs. They were fighting over who got to do
my little 'toy' truck, but the boss jumped them all and did it himself.
LOL!

These folks sell springs, they don't cater to the niche market of 4x4's
so they don't claim their mechanic's tools are gold plated, or price
them like that anyway... I got new springs, arched for 2.5" with a
replacement pre arched keeper leaf installed for under $250.00 Canadian
a set....

It might be worth a check in the yellow pages and a call...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Mike wrote:
>
> Thanks guys,
> I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for the 4.5"
>
> I was hoping not to spend more than $3000 for the lift + wheels + tires
> + gears.
>
> I'm hearing now that installing the gears is really expensive due to
> the ammount of labor is takes.
>
> Still haven't gotten any recommendations of an installer - and I don't
> want to spend a day or more doing this stuff - just to find out I'm
> missing some tool or some other nonsense and be left with a Jeep in
> pieces in my driveway. I like to tinker but at the same time I know my
> limits, and I'm not about to take on a project this size...
>
> Got my office move date of June 9th, so no more long highway miles for
> me - so it's basically a green light for this... I just would really
> love to find a shop that has some experience doing this type of stuff,
> that I could go back to if I had a problem down the road.
>
> There's a bunch of speed shops in Queens, along Queens blvd... though
> they seem to cater to those little annoying imports... wondering if
> that's my best bet around here??
>
> --
> Mike
>
> Mike
> NY / Long Island
> '03 Wrangler X - Freedom Edition
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com

Mike Romain

I don't know about doing a kit like that, but when I need spring work on
my trucks with leaf springs, I go to local truck shops that do big semi
tractor and dump truck springs. They were fighting over who got to do
my little 'toy' truck, but the boss jumped them all and did it himself.
LOL!

These folks sell springs, they don't cater to the niche market of 4x4's
so they don't claim their mechanic's tools are gold plated, or price
them like that anyway... I got new springs, arched for 2.5" with a
replacement pre arched keeper leaf installed for under $250.00 Canadian
a set....

It might be worth a check in the yellow pages and a call...

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


Mike wrote:
>
> Thanks guys,
> I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for the 4.5"
>
> I was hoping not to spend more than $3000 for the lift + wheels + tires
> + gears.
>
> I'm hearing now that installing the gears is really expensive due to
> the ammount of labor is takes.
>
> Still haven't gotten any recommendations of an installer - and I don't
> want to spend a day or more doing this stuff - just to find out I'm
> missing some tool or some other nonsense and be left with a Jeep in
> pieces in my driveway. I like to tinker but at the same time I know my
> limits, and I'm not about to take on a project this size...
>
> Got my office move date of June 9th, so no more long highway miles for
> me - so it's basically a green light for this... I just would really
> love to find a shop that has some experience doing this type of stuff,
> that I could go back to if I had a problem down the road.
>
> There's a bunch of speed shops in Queens, along Queens blvd... though
> they seem to cater to those little annoying imports... wondering if
> that's my best bet around here??
>
> --
> Mike
>
> Mike
> NY / Long Island
> '03 Wrangler X - Freedom Edition
> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com

Carl

Mike-

Your CJ only has a 2.5" lift?

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:445BB517.5E292E60@sympatico.ca...
>I don't know about doing a kit like that, but when I need spring work on
> my trucks with leaf springs, I go to local truck shops that do big semi
> tractor and dump truck springs. They were fighting over who got to do
> my little 'toy' truck, but the boss jumped them all and did it himself.
> LOL!
>
> These folks sell springs, they don't cater to the niche market of 4x4's
> so they don't claim their mechanic's tools are gold plated, or price
> them like that anyway... I got new springs, arched for 2.5" with a
> replacement pre arched keeper leaf installed for under $250.00 Canadian
> a set....
>
> It might be worth a check in the yellow pages and a call...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> Mike wrote:
>>
>> Thanks guys,
>> I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for the 4.5"
>>
>> I was hoping not to spend more than $3000 for the lift + wheels + tires
>> + gears.
>>
>> I'm hearing now that installing the gears is really expensive due to
>> the ammount of labor is takes.
>>
>> Still haven't gotten any recommendations of an installer - and I don't
>> want to spend a day or more doing this stuff - just to find out I'm
>> missing some tool or some other nonsense and be left with a Jeep in
>> pieces in my driveway. I like to tinker but at the same time I know my
>> limits, and I'm not about to take on a project this size...
>>
>> Got my office move date of June 9th, so no more long highway miles for
>> me - so it's basically a green light for this... I just would really
>> love to find a shop that has some experience doing this type of stuff,
>> that I could go back to if I had a problem down the road.
>>
>> There's a bunch of speed shops in Queens, along Queens blvd... though
>> they seem to cater to those little annoying imports... wondering if
>> that's my best bet around here??
>>
>> --
>> Mike
>>
>> Mike
>> NY / Long Island
>> '03 Wrangler X - Freedom Edition
>> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com

Carl

Mike-

Your CJ only has a 2.5" lift?

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:445BB517.5E292E60@sympatico.ca...
>I don't know about doing a kit like that, but when I need spring work on
> my trucks with leaf springs, I go to local truck shops that do big semi
> tractor and dump truck springs. They were fighting over who got to do
> my little 'toy' truck, but the boss jumped them all and did it himself.
> LOL!
>
> These folks sell springs, they don't cater to the niche market of 4x4's
> so they don't claim their mechanic's tools are gold plated, or price
> them like that anyway... I got new springs, arched for 2.5" with a
> replacement pre arched keeper leaf installed for under $250.00 Canadian
> a set....
>
> It might be worth a check in the yellow pages and a call...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> Mike wrote:
>>
>> Thanks guys,
>> I wouldn't mind spending a little extra for the 4.5"
>>
>> I was hoping not to spend more than $3000 for the lift + wheels + tires
>> + gears.
>>
>> I'm hearing now that installing the gears is really expensive due to
>> the ammount of labor is takes.
>>
>> Still haven't gotten any recommendations of an installer - and I don't
>> want to spend a day or more doing this stuff - just to find out I'm
>> missing some tool or some other nonsense and be left with a Jeep in
>> pieces in my driveway. I like to tinker but at the same time I know my
>> limits, and I'm not about to take on a project this size...
>>
>> Got my office move date of June 9th, so no more long highway miles for
>> me - so it's basically a green light for this... I just would really
>> love to find a shop that has some experience doing this type of stuff,
>> that I could go back to if I had a problem down the road.
>>
>> There's a bunch of speed shops in Queens, along Queens blvd... though
>> they seem to cater to those little annoying imports... wondering if
>> that's my best bet around here??
>>
>> --
>> Mike
>>
>> Mike
>> NY / Long Island
>> '03 Wrangler X - Freedom Edition
>> ----- Posted via http://www.wranglergear.com