Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Could the u-joint be failing or from the sounds of it failed?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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c wrote:
>
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum, so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Could the u-joint be failing or from the sounds of it failed?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

c wrote:
>
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum, so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Could the u-joint be failing or from the sounds of it failed?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

c wrote:
>
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum, so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

I vote take it apart, too. It sounds like your using the old sealed
ball bearing type, and when you see it, it should have the telltale rust
color from the heat attracting condensation. Lube the emergency cables,
just in case it's an out of round drum.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
> be wrong with it before I tear in to it.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

I vote take it apart, too. It sounds like your using the old sealed
ball bearing type, and when you see it, it should have the telltale rust
color from the heat attracting condensation. Lube the emergency cables,
just in case it's an out of round drum.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
> be wrong with it before I tear in to it.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

I vote take it apart, too. It sounds like your using the old sealed
ball bearing type, and when you see it, it should have the telltale rust
color from the heat attracting condensation. Lube the emergency cables,
just in case it's an out of round drum.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
> be wrong with it before I tear in to it.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is loose.
Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the wheels. Not in
the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just drive something else
tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

Chris

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45106c85$0$24269$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"
>
> Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.
>
> Earle
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
> I
>> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
> axle
>> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group
>> whose
>> judgment I trust.
>>
>> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that
>> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
>> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
> so
>> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
> the
>> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
>> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
>> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
>> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
> am
>> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>>
>> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving
>> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
> was
>> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
>> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
> it
>> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>>
>> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in
>> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
> I
>> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
> to
>> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing,
>> but
>> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
> rain.
>> It never fails, LOL.
>>
>> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is loose.
Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the wheels. Not in
the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just drive something else
tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

Chris

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45106c85$0$24269$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"
>
> Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.
>
> Earle
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
> I
>> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
> axle
>> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group
>> whose
>> judgment I trust.
>>
>> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that
>> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
>> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
> so
>> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
> the
>> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
>> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
>> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
>> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
> am
>> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>>
>> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving
>> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
> was
>> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
>> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
> it
>> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>>
>> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in
>> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
> I
>> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
> to
>> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing,
>> but
>> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
> rain.
>> It never fails, LOL.
>>
>> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is loose.
Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the wheels. Not in
the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just drive something else
tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

Chris

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45106c85$0$24269$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"
>
> Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.
>
> Earle
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
> I
>> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
> axle
>> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group
>> whose
>> judgment I trust.
>>
>> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that
>> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
>> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
> so
>> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
> the
>> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
>> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
>> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
>> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
> am
>> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>>
>> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving
>> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
> was
>> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
>> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
> it
>> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>>
>> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in
>> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
> I
>> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
> to
>> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing,
>> but
>> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
> rain.
>> It never fails, LOL.
>>
>> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

c wrote:
> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.

On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and springypingthings.

Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)

Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).

--
DougW