Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
judgment I trust.

Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise that
sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum, so
my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and the
brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I am
going at a steady speed or accelerating.

When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried moving
the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing was
loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but it
is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.

This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker in
it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when I
turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up to
this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring rain.
It never fails, LOL.

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"

Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.

Earle

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"

Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.

Earle

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"

Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.

Earle

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com:

> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first
> thought, but I have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in
> to this thing. The axle is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here
> because this is the only group whose judgment I trust.

WOW! You've GOT TO BE KIDDING, right?

OK, advice. Don't drive it, from your description it might be several
things, it isn't going to heal itself and, depending on what's actaully
wrong, it could get very expensive or even dangerous if you keep on
driving it.

Tear it down and find out what's going on. As far as the rain is
concerned, you're probably drip dry.... <G>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com:

> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first
> thought, but I have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in
> to this thing. The axle is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here
> because this is the only group whose judgment I trust.

WOW! You've GOT TO BE KIDDING, right?

OK, advice. Don't drive it, from your description it might be several
things, it isn't going to heal itself and, depending on what's actaully
wrong, it could get very expensive or even dangerous if you keep on
driving it.

Tear it down and find out what's going on. As far as the rain is
concerned, you're probably drip dry.... <G>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com:

> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first
> thought, but I have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in
> to this thing. The axle is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here
> because this is the only group whose judgment I trust.

WOW! You've GOT TO BE KIDDING, right?

OK, advice. Don't drive it, from your description it might be several
things, it isn't going to heal itself and, depending on what's actaully
wrong, it could get very expensive or even dangerous if you keep on
driving it.

Tear it down and find out what's going on. As far as the rain is
concerned, you're probably drip dry.... <G>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98439C7A344D5xs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com:
>
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first
>> thought, but I have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in
>> to this thing. The axle is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here
>> because this is the only group whose judgment I trust.
>
> WOW! You've GOT TO BE KIDDING, right?
>
> OK, advice. Don't drive it, from your description it might be several
> things, it isn't going to heal itself and, depending on what's actaully
> wrong, it could get very expensive or even dangerous if you keep on
> driving it.
>
> Tear it down and find out what's going on. As far as the rain is
> concerned, you're probably drip dry.... <G>
>

LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
be wrong with it before I tear in to it.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98439C7A344D5xs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com:
>
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first
>> thought, but I have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in
>> to this thing. The axle is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here
>> because this is the only group whose judgment I trust.
>
> WOW! You've GOT TO BE KIDDING, right?
>
> OK, advice. Don't drive it, from your description it might be several
> things, it isn't going to heal itself and, depending on what's actaully
> wrong, it could get very expensive or even dangerous if you keep on
> driving it.
>
> Tear it down and find out what's going on. As far as the rain is
> concerned, you're probably drip dry.... <G>
>

LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
be wrong with it before I tear in to it.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"XS11E" <xs11eNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98439C7A344D5xs11eyahoocom@70.168.83.30...
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com:
>
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first
>> thought, but I have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in
>> to this thing. The axle is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here
>> because this is the only group whose judgment I trust.
>
> WOW! You've GOT TO BE KIDDING, right?
>
> OK, advice. Don't drive it, from your description it might be several
> things, it isn't going to heal itself and, depending on what's actaully
> wrong, it could get very expensive or even dangerous if you keep on
> driving it.
>
> Tear it down and find out what's going on. As far as the rain is
> concerned, you're probably drip dry.... <G>
>

LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
be wrong with it before I tear in to it.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Could the u-joint be failing or from the sounds of it failed?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

c wrote:
>
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum, so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Could the u-joint be failing or from the sounds of it failed?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

c wrote:
>
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum, so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Could the u-joint be failing or from the sounds of it failed?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

c wrote:
>
> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
> judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise that
> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum, so
> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and the
> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I am
> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried moving
> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing was
> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but it
> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker in
> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when I
> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up to
> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing, but
> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring rain.
> It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

I vote take it apart, too. It sounds like your using the old sealed
ball bearing type, and when you see it, it should have the telltale rust
color from the heat attracting condensation. Lube the emergency cables,
just in case it's an out of round drum.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
> be wrong with it before I tear in to it.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

I vote take it apart, too. It sounds like your using the old sealed
ball bearing type, and when you see it, it should have the telltale rust
color from the heat attracting condensation. Lube the emergency cables,
just in case it's an out of round drum.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
> be wrong with it before I tear in to it.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

I vote take it apart, too. It sounds like your using the old sealed
ball bearing type, and when you see it, it should have the telltale rust
color from the heat attracting condensation. Lube the emergency cables,
just in case it's an out of round drum.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> LOL, I know not to drive it, I was just looking for an opinion on what might
> be wrong with it before I tear in to it.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is loose.
Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the wheels. Not in
the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just drive something else
tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

Chris

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45106c85$0$24269$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"
>
> Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.
>
> Earle
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
> I
>> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
> axle
>> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group
>> whose
>> judgment I trust.
>>
>> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that
>> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
>> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
> so
>> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
> the
>> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
>> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
>> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
>> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
> am
>> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>>
>> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving
>> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
> was
>> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
>> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
> it
>> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>>
>> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in
>> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
> I
>> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
> to
>> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing,
>> but
>> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
> rain.
>> It never fails, LOL.
>>
>> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is loose.
Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the wheels. Not in
the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just drive something else
tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

Chris

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45106c85$0$24269$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"
>
> Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.
>
> Earle
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
> I
>> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
> axle
>> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group
>> whose
>> judgment I trust.
>>
>> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that
>> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
>> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
> so
>> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
> the
>> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
>> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
>> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
>> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
> am
>> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>>
>> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving
>> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
> was
>> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
>> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
> it
>> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>>
>> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in
>> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
> I
>> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
> to
>> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing,
>> but
>> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
> rain.
>> It never fails, LOL.
>>
>> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is loose.
Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the wheels. Not in
the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just drive something else
tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

Chris

"Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45106c85$0$24269$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> "the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one"
>
> Pull it off and see why. Sounds like a spring or an anchor let go.
>
> Earle
>
> "c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
> news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but
> I
>> have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The
> axle
>> is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group
>> whose
>> judgment I trust.
>>
>> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that
>> sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear wheel
>> area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the drum,
> so
>> my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped working and
> the
>> brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and hoping) it is just
>> the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake pedal, the noise and
>> pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am just leaving a
>> stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise isn't there if I
> am
>> going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>>
>> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving
>> the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer bearing
> was
>> loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also noticed that
>> the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's not hot, but
> it
>> is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>>
>> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in
>> it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting when
> I
>> turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and quiet up
> to
>> this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to this thing,
>> but
>> both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it is pouring
> rain.
>> It never fails, LOL.
>>
>> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

c wrote:
> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.

On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and springypingthings.

Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)

Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).

--
DougW

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

c wrote:
> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.

On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and springypingthings.

Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)

Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).

--
DougW

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

c wrote:
> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.

If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.

On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and springypingthings.

Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)

Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).

--
DougW

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
>c wrote:
>> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
>> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
>> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
>> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
>> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
>> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
>
> If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.
>
> On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
> springypingthings.
>
> Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
>
> Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
> place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
> ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
> in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
>
> --
> DougW
>

Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake hardware.
It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed for
me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the backing
plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and 47
degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
>c wrote:
>> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
>> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
>> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
>> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
>> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
>> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
>
> If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.
>
> On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
> springypingthings.
>
> Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
>
> Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
> place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
> ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
> in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
>
> --
> DougW
>

Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake hardware.
It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed for
me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the backing
plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and 47
degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
>c wrote:
>> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
>> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
>> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
>> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
>> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
>> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
>
> If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.
>
> On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
> springypingthings.
>
> Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
>
> Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
> place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
> ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
> in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
>
> --
> DougW
>

Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake hardware.
It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed for
me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the backing
plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and 47
degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:35:38 UTC "c" <c@me.org> wrote:

>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
> >c wrote:
> >> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
> >> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
> >> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
> >> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
> >> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
> >> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
> >
> > If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.
> >
> > On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
> > springypingthings.
> >
> > Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
> >
> > Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
> > place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
> > ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
> > in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
>
> Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake hardware.
> It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed for
> me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the backing
> plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
> doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and 47
> degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)

Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.

Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
"fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
like a good idea, especially in the rain.

--
Will Honea

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:35:38 UTC "c" <c@me.org> wrote:

>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
> >c wrote:
> >> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
> >> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
> >> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
> >> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
> >> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
> >> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
> >
> > If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.
> >
> > On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
> > springypingthings.
> >
> > Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
> >
> > Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
> > place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
> > ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
> > in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
>
> Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake hardware.
> It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed for
> me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the backing
> plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
> doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and 47
> degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)

Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.

Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
"fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
like a good idea, especially in the rain.

--
Will Honea

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:35:38 UTC "c" <c@me.org> wrote:

>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
> >c wrote:
> >> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
> >> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
> >> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
> >> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
> >> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
> >> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
> >
> > If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad seperation.
> >
> > On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
> > springypingthings.
> >
> > Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
> >
> > Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
> > place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
> > ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
> > in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
>
> Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake hardware.
> It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed for
> me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the backing
> plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
> doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and 47
> degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)

Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.

Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
"fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
like a good idea, especially in the rain.

--
Will Honea

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-uldcExWVKB8B@anon.none.net...
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:35:38 UTC "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
>> >c wrote:
>> >> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
>> >> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
>> >> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
>> >> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
>> >> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
>> >> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
>> >
>> > If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad
>> > seperation.
>> >
>> > On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
>> > springypingthings.
>> >
>> > Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
>> >
>> > Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
>> > place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
>> > ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
>> > in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
>> >
>> > --
>> > DougW
>> >
>>
>> Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake
>> hardware.
>> It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed
>> for
>> me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the
>> backing
>> plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
>> doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and
>> 47
>> degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)
>
> Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
> procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.
>
> Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
> taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
> "fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
> like a good idea, especially in the rain.
>
> --
> Will Honea


Hehe, I'm not sure if I'm procrastinating, or if I just don't feel like
catching a cold already this season. Seriously, if this was my only vehicle,
I would have been fixing it, but it's just my summer toy, so it's no big
deal if I don't drive it right away. I was more concerned about the
seriousness of what the failed part is, but it appears that I will just have
to redo the brakes. I may find out otherwise once I get it apart, but I will
do it in the confines of my garage unless it warms up. We are having a cold
snap here in Michigan right now, and with that and the rain, I just don't
feel the need to fix it immediately. I will have a stall open tomorrow or
the next day once my friend's VW is out of there. Just waiting for a part
that is on order and should be here tomorrow.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-uldcExWVKB8B@anon.none.net...
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:35:38 UTC "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
>> >c wrote:
>> >> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
>> >> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
>> >> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
>> >> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
>> >> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
>> >> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
>> >
>> > If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad
>> > seperation.
>> >
>> > On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
>> > springypingthings.
>> >
>> > Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
>> >
>> > Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
>> > place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
>> > ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
>> > in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
>> >
>> > --
>> > DougW
>> >
>>
>> Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake
>> hardware.
>> It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed
>> for
>> me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the
>> backing
>> plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
>> doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and
>> 47
>> degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)
>
> Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
> procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.
>
> Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
> taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
> "fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
> like a good idea, especially in the rain.
>
> --
> Will Honea


Hehe, I'm not sure if I'm procrastinating, or if I just don't feel like
catching a cold already this season. Seriously, if this was my only vehicle,
I would have been fixing it, but it's just my summer toy, so it's no big
deal if I don't drive it right away. I was more concerned about the
seriousness of what the failed part is, but it appears that I will just have
to redo the brakes. I may find out otherwise once I get it apart, but I will
do it in the confines of my garage unless it warms up. We are having a cold
snap here in Michigan right now, and with that and the rain, I just don't
feel the need to fix it immediately. I will have a stall open tomorrow or
the next day once my friend's VW is out of there. Just waiting for a part
that is on order and should be here tomorrow.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-uldcExWVKB8B@anon.none.net...
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 00:35:38 UTC "c" <c@me.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:rU%Pg.12$iA5.11@dukeread11...
>> >c wrote:
>> >> Well, it looks like Earle wins. I didn't actually tear it apart, but I
>> >> jacked it up again and did spin the wheels this time with the truck in
>> >> neutral, and sure enough there is something inside the drum that is
>> >> loose. Whatever it is, it's rolling inside the drum as I turn the
>> >> wheels. Not in the mood to sit in the rain and fix it, so I'll just
>> >> drive something else tomorrow, lol. Thanks for the replies guys.
>> >
>> > If I were to guess it would be one of the springs broke or pad
>> > seperation.
>> >
>> > On drums I always put in a fresh kit of springs, adjuster and
>> > springypingthings.
>> >
>> > Working in the rain is easy. Once your wet, your wet. :)
>> >
>> > Actually when working on my truck up at college I used a tarps held in
>> > place with suction cups, rope, and poles. Made a little tent over what
>> > ever I was working on at the time. Looked like a hobo village but even
>> > in the winter it was enough shelter to stay warm(ish).
>> >
>> > --
>> > DougW
>> >
>>
>> Everything was new when I built this axle, including all the brake
>> hardware.
>> It is a slightly narrowed 9" that one of the local shops here narrowed
>> for
>> me. They preassembled the brakes with all new hardware including the
>> backing
>> plates. Like I said, I am going to wait until the rain stops. The rain
>> doesn't usually bother me, but when it is combined with 25 mph winds and
>> 47
>> degree temps, I'm waiting, LOL. I'm getting too old for that ----! ;-)
>
> Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
> procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.
>
> Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
> taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
> "fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
> like a good idea, especially in the rain.
>
> --
> Will Honea


Hehe, I'm not sure if I'm procrastinating, or if I just don't feel like
catching a cold already this season. Seriously, if this was my only vehicle,
I would have been fixing it, but it's just my summer toy, so it's no big
deal if I don't drive it right away. I was more concerned about the
seriousness of what the failed part is, but it appears that I will just have
to redo the brakes. I may find out otherwise once I get it apart, but I will
do it in the confines of my garage unless it warms up. We are having a cold
snap here in Michigan right now, and with that and the rain, I just don't
feel the need to fix it immediately. I will have a stall open tomorrow or
the next day once my friend's VW is out of there. Just waiting for a part
that is on order and should be here tomorrow.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Will Honea wrote:

> Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
> procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.

:)

> Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
> taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
> "fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
> like a good idea, especially in the rain.

They work well, but the tape would probably keep rain from sneaking
down the side. I got the ones from an auto shop that have little
plastic clips. You just put the cup on one side and clip the tarp to
it. Works good for keeping the edges from flapping.

--
DougW

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Will Honea wrote:

> Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
> procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.

:)

> Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
> taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
> "fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
> like a good idea, especially in the rain.

They work well, but the tape would probably keep rain from sneaking
down the side. I got the ones from an auto shop that have little
plastic clips. You just put the cup on one side and clip the tarp to
it. Works good for keeping the edges from flapping.

--
DougW

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Will Honea wrote:

> Yeah, Doug. Here's a guy with a perfectly good reason to
> procrastinate and you want to spoil it <g>.

:)

> Never tried the suction cup thing - just wiped the fender dry and duct
> taped it. I carry a folded up sheet of 6 mil painter's tarp for such
> "fix it or spend the night" situations but those suction cups sound
> like a good idea, especially in the rain.

They work well, but the tape would probably keep rain from sneaking
down the side. I got the ones from an auto shop that have little
plastic clips. You just put the cup on one side and clip the tarp to
it. Works good for keeping the edges from flapping.

--
DougW

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
>have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
>is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
>judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear
> wheel area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the
> drum, so my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped
> working and the brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and
> hoping) it is just the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake
> pedal, the noise and pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am
> just leaving a stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise
> isn't there if I am going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer
> bearing was loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also
> noticed that the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's
> not hot, but it is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting
> when I turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and
> quiet up to this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to
> this thing, but both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it
> is pouring rain. It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris
>

Well, I took the drum off this thing tonight, and found something
interesting. It was not the brakes, nor the axle bearing, but the noise I
heard was in fact one of the shouldered sections of one stud that was broke
off. The only thing I can figure is that when I got my tires mounted on the
rims, the bastards at the tire place over tightened the lugs. Since I had my
truck there, they offered to install the wheels for me for free, so I
figured what the heck. Apparently that was a mistake. The lug nut and broken
stud were inside the center of the wheel and stayed there because the wheels
have a center cover that hides the lugs. The good thing is that the brakes
and everything else inside the drum are OK. There was just a little corner
missing off of one of the shoes, maybe the size of a kernel of corn. What I
have to hope for now is that the knurled holes for the studs did not get
damaged. If they didn't, this will only cost me the price of 5 studs and lug
nuts, and the gas to go yell at the tire shop.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
>have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
>is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
>judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear
> wheel area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the
> drum, so my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped
> working and the brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and
> hoping) it is just the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake
> pedal, the noise and pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am
> just leaving a stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise
> isn't there if I am going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer
> bearing was loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also
> noticed that the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's
> not hot, but it is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting
> when I turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and
> quiet up to this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to
> this thing, but both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it
> is pouring rain. It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris
>

Well, I took the drum off this thing tonight, and found something
interesting. It was not the brakes, nor the axle bearing, but the noise I
heard was in fact one of the shouldered sections of one stud that was broke
off. The only thing I can figure is that when I got my tires mounted on the
rims, the bastards at the tire place over tightened the lugs. Since I had my
truck there, they offered to install the wheels for me for free, so I
figured what the heck. Apparently that was a mistake. The lug nut and broken
stud were inside the center of the wheel and stayed there because the wheels
have a center cover that hides the lugs. The good thing is that the brakes
and everything else inside the drum are OK. There was just a little corner
missing off of one of the shoes, maybe the size of a kernel of corn. What I
have to hope for now is that the knurled holes for the studs did not get
damaged. If they didn't, this will only cost me the price of 5 studs and lug
nuts, and the gas to go yell at the tire shop.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:CUZPg.9230$RN2.6523@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>I have a feeling that this is going to be worse than I first thought, but I
>have a question for you axle gurus before I tear in to this thing. The axle
>is not in a Jeep, but I'm asking here because this is the only group whose
>judgment I trust.
>
> Anyway, driving home from work today, I start hearing this nasty noise
> that sounds like a VERY loose wheel bearing coming from the right rear
> wheel area. There is also a pulsing, almost like the brakes grabbing the
> drum, so my first thought is that the self adjuster must have stopped
> working and the brakes are really loose. The reason I am thinking (and
> hoping) it is just the brakes is that when I lightly touch the brake
> pedal, the noise and pulsing stop. The sound I hear is the worst when I am
> just leaving a stoplight, driving real slow, or decelerating. The noise
> isn't there if I am going at a steady speed or accelerating.
>
> When I got home tonight, I jacked the rear of the truck up, and tried
> moving the tires up, down, and back and forth to see if maybe the outer
> bearing was loose due to failure, but there is no movement there. I also
> noticed that the right brake drum is much warmer than the left one. It's
> not hot, but it is definitely a lot warmer than the other side.
>
> This axle only has about 10k miles on it. It does have a lock rite locker
> in it, and that is still working properly, because I hear it ratcheting
> when I turn. Everything in this axle was new, and it has been nice and
> quiet up to this point, so I am a bit puzzled. I would just tear in to
> this thing, but both of my stalls are occupied right now, and of course it
> is pouring rain. It never fails, LOL.
>
> Any input would be appreciated. Thanks guys.
>
> Chris
>

Well, I took the drum off this thing tonight, and found something
interesting. It was not the brakes, nor the axle bearing, but the noise I
heard was in fact one of the shouldered sections of one stud that was broke
off. The only thing I can figure is that when I got my tires mounted on the
rims, the bastards at the tire place over tightened the lugs. Since I had my
truck there, they offered to install the wheels for me for free, so I
figured what the heck. Apparently that was a mistake. The lug nut and broken
stud were inside the center of the wheel and stayed there because the wheels
have a center cover that hides the lugs. The good thing is that the brakes
and everything else inside the drum are OK. There was just a little corner
missing off of one of the shoes, maybe the size of a kernel of corn. What I
have to hope for now is that the knurled holes for the studs did not get
damaged. If they didn't, this will only cost me the price of 5 studs and lug
nuts, and the gas to go yell at the tire shop.

Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Hi Chris,
Bolts fatigue and break because they are loose and wiggling back and
forth, we used to see that a lot on the steel Jackman rims and continue
to see on commercial truck size rims under torqued. Many time they will
still feel over torqued in that the nuts are peened to the stud. Replace
the others.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> Well, I took the drum off this thing tonight, and found something
> interesting. It was not the brakes, nor the axle bearing, but the noise I
> heard was in fact one of the shouldered sections of one stud that was broke
> off. The only thing I can figure is that when I got my tires mounted on the
> rims, the bastards at the tire place over tightened the lugs. Since I had my
> truck there, they offered to install the wheels for me for free, so I
> figured what the heck. Apparently that was a mistake. The lug nut and broken
> stud were inside the center of the wheel and stayed there because the wheels
> have a center cover that hides the lugs. The good thing is that the brakes
> and everything else inside the drum are OK. There was just a little corner
> missing off of one of the shoes, maybe the size of a kernel of corn. What I
> have to hope for now is that the knurled holes for the studs did not get
> damaged. If they didn't, this will only cost me the price of 5 studs and lug
> nuts, and the gas to go yell at the tire shop.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Hi Chris,
Bolts fatigue and break because they are loose and wiggling back and
forth, we used to see that a lot on the steel Jackman rims and continue
to see on commercial truck size rims under torqued. Many time they will
still feel over torqued in that the nuts are peened to the stud. Replace
the others.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> Well, I took the drum off this thing tonight, and found something
> interesting. It was not the brakes, nor the axle bearing, but the noise I
> heard was in fact one of the shouldered sections of one stud that was broke
> off. The only thing I can figure is that when I got my tires mounted on the
> rims, the bastards at the tire place over tightened the lugs. Since I had my
> truck there, they offered to install the wheels for me for free, so I
> figured what the heck. Apparently that was a mistake. The lug nut and broken
> stud were inside the center of the wheel and stayed there because the wheels
> have a center cover that hides the lugs. The good thing is that the brakes
> and everything else inside the drum are OK. There was just a little corner
> missing off of one of the shoes, maybe the size of a kernel of corn. What I
> have to hope for now is that the knurled holes for the studs did not get
> damaged. If they didn't, this will only cost me the price of 5 studs and lug
> nuts, and the gas to go yell at the tire shop.
>
> Chris

Re: Noise in 9" Ford rear axle
 

Hi Chris,
Bolts fatigue and break because they are loose and wiggling back and
forth, we used to see that a lot on the steel Jackman rims and continue
to see on commercial truck size rims under torqued. Many time they will
still feel over torqued in that the nuts are peened to the stud. Replace
the others.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

c wrote:
>
> Well, I took the drum off this thing tonight, and found something
> interesting. It was not the brakes, nor the axle bearing, but the noise I
> heard was in fact one of the shouldered sections of one stud that was broke
> off. The only thing I can figure is that when I got my tires mounted on the
> rims, the bastards at the tire place over tightened the lugs. Since I had my
> truck there, they offered to install the wheels for me for free, so I
> figured what the heck. Apparently that was a mistake. The lug nut and broken
> stud were inside the center of the wheel and stayed there because the wheels
> have a center cover that hides the lugs. The good thing is that the brakes
> and everything else inside the drum are OK. There was just a little corner
> missing off of one of the shoes, maybe the size of a kernel of corn. What I
> have to hope for now is that the knurled holes for the studs did not get
> damaged. If they didn't, this will only cost me the price of 5 studs and lug
> nuts, and the gas to go yell at the tire shop.
>
> Chris