New starter continually runs
01-25-2007, 11:58 AM
#11
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Posts: n/a
Re: New starter continually runs
If the starter matches your vehicle then there won't be any need to splice
wires to reach the terminals. It is possible that these starters varied
somewhat from year to year and that an exact match is not available. That's
a drag, but it happens.
Don't mind Mike, he's Canadian. ;^)
Earle
<Erik.Hosler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169743219.882360.141450@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
> > to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
> > matches your vehicle??
> >
> > You have the wiring wrong.
> >
> > There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
> > starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
> > to power instead of to the keyswitch.
> >
> > Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
> > solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
> > > insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
> > > installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use
a
> > > new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short
to
> > > reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
> > > connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
> > > that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
> > > sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
> > > reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on
and
> > > won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key
is
> > > in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
> > > won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
> > > the battery again.
> >
> > > I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
> > > think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
> > > somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into
the
> > > possible cause.
> >
> > > Thanks in advanced!
> >
> > > Erik
>
wires to reach the terminals. It is possible that these starters varied
somewhat from year to year and that an exact match is not available. That's
a drag, but it happens.
Don't mind Mike, he's Canadian. ;^)
Earle
<Erik.Hosler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169743219.882360.141450@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
> > to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
> > matches your vehicle??
> >
> > You have the wiring wrong.
> >
> > There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
> > starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
> > to power instead of to the keyswitch.
> >
> > Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
> > solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
> > > insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
> > > installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use
a
> > > new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short
to
> > > reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
> > > connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
> > > that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
> > > sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
> > > reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on
and
> > > won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key
is
> > > in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
> > > won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
> > > the battery again.
> >
> > > I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
> > > think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
> > > somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into
the
> > > possible cause.
> >
> > > Thanks in advanced!
> >
> > > Erik
>
01-25-2007, 11:58 AM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New starter continually runs
If the starter matches your vehicle then there won't be any need to splice
wires to reach the terminals. It is possible that these starters varied
somewhat from year to year and that an exact match is not available. That's
a drag, but it happens.
Don't mind Mike, he's Canadian. ;^)
Earle
<Erik.Hosler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169743219.882360.141450@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
> > to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
> > matches your vehicle??
> >
> > You have the wiring wrong.
> >
> > There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
> > starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
> > to power instead of to the keyswitch.
> >
> > Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
> > solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
> > > insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
> > > installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use
a
> > > new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short
to
> > > reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
> > > connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
> > > that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
> > > sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
> > > reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on
and
> > > won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key
is
> > > in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
> > > won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
> > > the battery again.
> >
> > > I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
> > > think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
> > > somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into
the
> > > possible cause.
> >
> > > Thanks in advanced!
> >
> > > Erik
>
wires to reach the terminals. It is possible that these starters varied
somewhat from year to year and that an exact match is not available. That's
a drag, but it happens.
Don't mind Mike, he's Canadian. ;^)
Earle
<Erik.Hosler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169743219.882360.141450@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
> > to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
> > matches your vehicle??
> >
> > You have the wiring wrong.
> >
> > There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
> > starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
> > to power instead of to the keyswitch.
> >
> > Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
> > solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
> > > insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
> > > installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use
a
> > > new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short
to
> > > reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
> > > connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
> > > that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
> > > sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
> > > reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on
and
> > > won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key
is
> > > in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
> > > won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
> > > the battery again.
> >
> > > I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
> > > think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
> > > somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into
the
> > > possible cause.
> >
> > > Thanks in advanced!
> >
> > > Erik
>
01-25-2007, 11:58 AM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New starter continually runs
If the starter matches your vehicle then there won't be any need to splice
wires to reach the terminals. It is possible that these starters varied
somewhat from year to year and that an exact match is not available. That's
a drag, but it happens.
Don't mind Mike, he's Canadian. ;^)
Earle
<Erik.Hosler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169743219.882360.141450@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
> > to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
> > matches your vehicle??
> >
> > You have the wiring wrong.
> >
> > There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
> > starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
> > to power instead of to the keyswitch.
> >
> > Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
> > solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
> > > insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
> > > installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use
a
> > > new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short
to
> > > reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
> > > connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
> > > that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
> > > sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
> > > reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on
and
> > > won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key
is
> > > in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
> > > won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
> > > the battery again.
> >
> > > I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
> > > think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
> > > somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into
the
> > > possible cause.
> >
> > > Thanks in advanced!
> >
> > > Erik
>
wires to reach the terminals. It is possible that these starters varied
somewhat from year to year and that an exact match is not available. That's
a drag, but it happens.
Don't mind Mike, he's Canadian. ;^)
Earle
<Erik.Hosler@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1169743219.882360.141450@a75g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
> > to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
> > matches your vehicle??
> >
> > You have the wiring wrong.
> >
> > There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
> > starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
> > to power instead of to the keyswitch.
> >
> > Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
> > solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
> > > insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
> > > installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use
a
> > > new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short
to
> > > reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
> > > connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
> > > that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
> > > sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
> > > reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on
and
> > > won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key
is
> > > in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
> > > won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
> > > the battery again.
> >
> > > I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
> > > think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
> > > somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into
the
> > > possible cause.
> >
> > > Thanks in advanced!
> >
> > > Erik
>
01-25-2007, 12:27 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New starter continually runs
If the starter matched your vehicle, you would not need to lengthen
wires or splice into the harness, it would just bolt and plug in.
Simple eh.
So whoever sold you that starter sold you a really screwed up one you
can 'convert' to 'fit' a Jeep, not a Jeep one. Lots of starters can be
converted to fit a Jeep.
Oh and a 'solenoid' by definition has to have a power in, power out and
a trigger and a ground. Any other part you might be looking at is 'not
a solenoid.
On the last YJ and XJ I worked on, there were two green wires floating
around the starter relay. When these get switched, the starter runs
when you hook on the battery cable. They were 6 cylinder engines though.
Mike
Erik.Hosler@gmail.com wrote:
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
>> to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
>> matches your vehicle??
>>
>> You have the wiring wrong.
>>
>> There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
>> starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
>> to power instead of to the keyswitch.
>>
>> Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
>> solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
>>> insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
>>> installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use a
>>> new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short to
>>> reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
>>> connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
>>> that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
>>> sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
>>> reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on and
>>> won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key is
>>> in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
>>> won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
>>> the battery again.
>>> I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
>>> think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
>>> somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into the
>>> possible cause.
>>> Thanks in advanced!
>>> Erik
>
wires or splice into the harness, it would just bolt and plug in.
Simple eh.
So whoever sold you that starter sold you a really screwed up one you
can 'convert' to 'fit' a Jeep, not a Jeep one. Lots of starters can be
converted to fit a Jeep.
Oh and a 'solenoid' by definition has to have a power in, power out and
a trigger and a ground. Any other part you might be looking at is 'not
a solenoid.
On the last YJ and XJ I worked on, there were two green wires floating
around the starter relay. When these get switched, the starter runs
when you hook on the battery cable. They were 6 cylinder engines though.
Mike
Erik.Hosler@gmail.com wrote:
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
>> to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
>> matches your vehicle??
>>
>> You have the wiring wrong.
>>
>> There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
>> starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
>> to power instead of to the keyswitch.
>>
>> Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
>> solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
>>> insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
>>> installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use a
>>> new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short to
>>> reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
>>> connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
>>> that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
>>> sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
>>> reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on and
>>> won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key is
>>> in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
>>> won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
>>> the battery again.
>>> I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
>>> think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
>>> somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into the
>>> possible cause.
>>> Thanks in advanced!
>>> Erik
>
01-25-2007, 12:27 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: New starter continually runs
If the starter matched your vehicle, you would not need to lengthen
wires or splice into the harness, it would just bolt and plug in.
Simple eh.
So whoever sold you that starter sold you a really screwed up one you
can 'convert' to 'fit' a Jeep, not a Jeep one. Lots of starters can be
converted to fit a Jeep.
Oh and a 'solenoid' by definition has to have a power in, power out and
a trigger and a ground. Any other part you might be looking at is 'not
a solenoid.
On the last YJ and XJ I worked on, there were two green wires floating
around the starter relay. When these get switched, the starter runs
when you hook on the battery cable. They were 6 cylinder engines though.
Mike
Erik.Hosler@gmail.com wrote:
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
>> to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
>> matches your vehicle??
>>
>> You have the wiring wrong.
>>
>> There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
>> starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
>> to power instead of to the keyswitch.
>>
>> Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
>> solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
>>> insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
>>> installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use a
>>> new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short to
>>> reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
>>> connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
>>> that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
>>> sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
>>> reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on and
>>> won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key is
>>> in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
>>> won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
>>> the battery again.
>>> I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
>>> think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
>>> somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into the
>>> possible cause.
>>> Thanks in advanced!
>>> Erik
>
wires or splice into the harness, it would just bolt and plug in.
Simple eh.
So whoever sold you that starter sold you a really screwed up one you
can 'convert' to 'fit' a Jeep, not a Jeep one. Lots of starters can be
converted to fit a Jeep.
Oh and a 'solenoid' by definition has to have a power in, power out and
a trigger and a ground. Any other part you might be looking at is 'not
a solenoid.
On the last YJ and XJ I worked on, there were two green wires floating
around the starter relay. When these get switched, the starter runs
when you hook on the battery cable. They were 6 cylinder engines though.
Mike
Erik.Hosler@gmail.com wrote:
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
>> to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
>> matches your vehicle??
>>
>> You have the wiring wrong.
>>
>> There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
>> starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
>> to power instead of to the keyswitch.
>>
>> Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
>> solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
>>> insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
>>> installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use a
>>> new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short to
>>> reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
>>> connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
>>> that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
>>> sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
>>> reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on and
>>> won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key is
>>> in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
>>> won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
>>> the battery again.
>>> I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
>>> think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
>>> somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into the
>>> possible cause.
>>> Thanks in advanced!
>>> Erik
>
01-25-2007, 12:27 PM
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Re: New starter continually runs
If the starter matched your vehicle, you would not need to lengthen
wires or splice into the harness, it would just bolt and plug in.
Simple eh.
So whoever sold you that starter sold you a really screwed up one you
can 'convert' to 'fit' a Jeep, not a Jeep one. Lots of starters can be
converted to fit a Jeep.
Oh and a 'solenoid' by definition has to have a power in, power out and
a trigger and a ground. Any other part you might be looking at is 'not
a solenoid.
On the last YJ and XJ I worked on, there were two green wires floating
around the starter relay. When these get switched, the starter runs
when you hook on the battery cable. They were 6 cylinder engines though.
Mike
Erik.Hosler@gmail.com wrote:
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
>> to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
>> matches your vehicle??
>>
>> You have the wiring wrong.
>>
>> There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
>> starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
>> to power instead of to the keyswitch.
>>
>> Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
>> solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
>>> insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
>>> installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use a
>>> new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short to
>>> reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
>>> connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
>>> that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
>>> sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
>>> reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on and
>>> won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key is
>>> in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
>>> won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
>>> the battery again.
>>> I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
>>> think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
>>> somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into the
>>> possible cause.
>>> Thanks in advanced!
>>> Erik
>
wires or splice into the harness, it would just bolt and plug in.
Simple eh.
So whoever sold you that starter sold you a really screwed up one you
can 'convert' to 'fit' a Jeep, not a Jeep one. Lots of starters can be
converted to fit a Jeep.
Oh and a 'solenoid' by definition has to have a power in, power out and
a trigger and a ground. Any other part you might be looking at is 'not
a solenoid.
On the last YJ and XJ I worked on, there were two green wires floating
around the starter relay. When these get switched, the starter runs
when you hook on the battery cable. They were 6 cylinder engines though.
Mike
Erik.Hosler@gmail.com wrote:
> Its a Mean Green Starter made for my 2.5L engine. The starter does
> match my vehicle and there isnt any freaking shoehorning going on.
> First off there ins't two green wires going to solenoid genius. 1 Hot 1
> Ground. The power comes straight from the battery to the solendoid
> then the starter relay with the ignition completes the circuit. As I
> stated before It is quite possible that the relay is bad and that I was
> in the process of changing it.
>
> But thanks I will look for the trigger wire that energises the starter
> or starter relay and ensure that isn't to power.
>
>
> On Jan 25, 9:52 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> Would you please explain what 'kind' of freaking starter you are trying
>> to shoehorn in there and why didn't you just use a "Jeep" starter that
>> matches your vehicle??
>>
>> You have the wiring wrong.
>>
>> There is a trigger wire that energises the starter solenoid and/or
>> starter relay when the key is turned to run. You have this wire hooked
>> to power instead of to the keyswitch.
>>
>> Just a wild guess, but it might be the two green wires on the
>> solenoid/relay in the wrong place.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Erik.Hos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I was wondering if anybody out there might be able to give me some
>>> insight to an issue that I have with a brand new starter I just
>>> installed on a '95 Wrangler SE. The installation required that I use a
>>> new batter terminal connection because the stock wires were to short to
>>> reach the ground and hot wire posts on the starter. This new
>>> connection required that I splice the wires coming out of the fuse box
>>> that holds the relay swithc for the starter and the fuses for other
>>> sensors and switches (ie fuel pump). The problem comes in when I
>>> reconnect the hook-ups to the batter terminals the starter turns on and
>>> won't turn off, even with the key out of the ignition. When the key is
>>> in the on position the starter will turn over the engine, but still
>>> won't turn off. The only way to turn off the starter is to disconnect
>>> the battery again.
>>> I haven't replaced the starter relay or the ignition switch yet and
>>> think that may be the cause of the issue, however I wanted to see if
>>> somebody had this type of experience or had some other insight into the
>>> possible cause.
>>> Thanks in advanced!
>>> Erik
>