new rear diff, possible?
02-24-2005, 04:36 PM
#51
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
So from what you're saying, I should be able to swap out the standard diff
gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:384cp2F5it02aU1@individual.net...
> The speed sensing gerotor pump is fully contained in the differential
> and uses the diff oil to engage the clutches in response to pressure
> differences. It's 100% mechanical with no remote electronic or hydraulic
> control.
>
> Incidentally, the 2005 Grand does away with Vari-Lok (except as a 2wd
> option) and introduces an electronically controlled system for all three
> diffs.
>
> The Vari-Lok name is a Jeep thing. It's actually a Dana Spicer
> Hydra-Lok, also found in the Dodge Viper.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > The Vari-Lok is remotely hydraulically (?) operated, so it's going
> > be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
> > don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
> > the cost of conversion.
> >
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:384cp2F5it02aU1@individual.net...
> The speed sensing gerotor pump is fully contained in the differential
> and uses the diff oil to engage the clutches in response to pressure
> differences. It's 100% mechanical with no remote electronic or hydraulic
> control.
>
> Incidentally, the 2005 Grand does away with Vari-Lok (except as a 2wd
> option) and introduces an electronically controlled system for all three
> diffs.
>
> The Vari-Lok name is a Jeep thing. It's actually a Dana Spicer
> Hydra-Lok, also found in the Dodge Viper.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > The Vari-Lok is remotely hydraulically (?) operated, so it's going
> > be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
> > don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
> > the cost of conversion.
> >
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
02-24-2005, 04:36 PM
#52
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
So from what you're saying, I should be able to swap out the standard diff
gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:384cp2F5it02aU1@individual.net...
> The speed sensing gerotor pump is fully contained in the differential
> and uses the diff oil to engage the clutches in response to pressure
> differences. It's 100% mechanical with no remote electronic or hydraulic
> control.
>
> Incidentally, the 2005 Grand does away with Vari-Lok (except as a 2wd
> option) and introduces an electronically controlled system for all three
> diffs.
>
> The Vari-Lok name is a Jeep thing. It's actually a Dana Spicer
> Hydra-Lok, also found in the Dodge Viper.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > The Vari-Lok is remotely hydraulically (?) operated, so it's going
> > be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
> > don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
> > the cost of conversion.
> >
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:384cp2F5it02aU1@individual.net...
> The speed sensing gerotor pump is fully contained in the differential
> and uses the diff oil to engage the clutches in response to pressure
> differences. It's 100% mechanical with no remote electronic or hydraulic
> control.
>
> Incidentally, the 2005 Grand does away with Vari-Lok (except as a 2wd
> option) and introduces an electronically controlled system for all three
> diffs.
>
> The Vari-Lok name is a Jeep thing. It's actually a Dana Spicer
> Hydra-Lok, also found in the Dodge Viper.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > The Vari-Lok is remotely hydraulically (?) operated, so it's going
> > be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
> > don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
> > the cost of conversion.
> >
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
02-24-2005, 04:47 PM
#53
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
BUMMER!!!!!!!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> Good idea with the magnet. The main housing appears to be aluminum, as my
> magnet did not stick. But the cover (bolted on at the rear of the diff)
> appears to be metal. Dang aluminum!!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> Good idea with the magnet. The main housing appears to be aluminum, as my
> magnet did not stick. But the cover (bolted on at the rear of the diff)
> appears to be metal. Dang aluminum!!
02-24-2005, 04:47 PM
#54
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
BUMMER!!!!!!!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> Good idea with the magnet. The main housing appears to be aluminum, as my
> magnet did not stick. But the cover (bolted on at the rear of the diff)
> appears to be metal. Dang aluminum!!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> Good idea with the magnet. The main housing appears to be aluminum, as my
> magnet did not stick. But the cover (bolted on at the rear of the diff)
> appears to be metal. Dang aluminum!!
02-24-2005, 04:47 PM
#55
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
BUMMER!!!!!!!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> Good idea with the magnet. The main housing appears to be aluminum, as my
> magnet did not stick. But the cover (bolted on at the rear of the diff)
> appears to be metal. Dang aluminum!!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> Good idea with the magnet. The main housing appears to be aluminum, as my
> magnet did not stick. But the cover (bolted on at the rear of the diff)
> appears to be metal. Dang aluminum!!
02-24-2005, 06:01 PM
#56
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
Grand Jeep wrote:
> So from what you're saying, I should be able to swap out the standard diff
> gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Well, not quite everything. Found this parts site:
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/grand_c...eModel44WJ.htm
It is outdated and doesn't cover your model year, but it gives some
clues. Unfortunately it looks like you need new axle shafts for the
Vari-Lok. It also lists the Vari-Lok case as having either 3/8" or 7/16"
ring gear bolt holes, so you need to find out what ring gear bolts your
current differential has in order to reuse your ring & pinion gears.
> Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
> dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
> it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
Probably talking about the Dana Trac-Lok. It was an OEM option on Grands
prior to 2002, so it should work with your axles, housing, and gears. It
uses friction clutch packs that need to be replaced periodically and it
doesn't perform as well as a Vari-Lok:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/traclok.html
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> So from what you're saying, I should be able to swap out the standard diff
> gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Well, not quite everything. Found this parts site:
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/grand_c...eModel44WJ.htm
It is outdated and doesn't cover your model year, but it gives some
clues. Unfortunately it looks like you need new axle shafts for the
Vari-Lok. It also lists the Vari-Lok case as having either 3/8" or 7/16"
ring gear bolt holes, so you need to find out what ring gear bolts your
current differential has in order to reuse your ring & pinion gears.
> Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
> dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
> it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
Probably talking about the Dana Trac-Lok. It was an OEM option on Grands
prior to 2002, so it should work with your axles, housing, and gears. It
uses friction clutch packs that need to be replaced periodically and it
doesn't perform as well as a Vari-Lok:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/traclok.html
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
02-24-2005, 06:01 PM
#57
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
Grand Jeep wrote:
> So from what you're saying, I should be able to swap out the standard diff
> gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Well, not quite everything. Found this parts site:
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/grand_c...eModel44WJ.htm
It is outdated and doesn't cover your model year, but it gives some
clues. Unfortunately it looks like you need new axle shafts for the
Vari-Lok. It also lists the Vari-Lok case as having either 3/8" or 7/16"
ring gear bolt holes, so you need to find out what ring gear bolts your
current differential has in order to reuse your ring & pinion gears.
> Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
> dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
> it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
Probably talking about the Dana Trac-Lok. It was an OEM option on Grands
prior to 2002, so it should work with your axles, housing, and gears. It
uses friction clutch packs that need to be replaced periodically and it
doesn't perform as well as a Vari-Lok:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/traclok.html
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> So from what you're saying, I should be able to swap out the standard diff
> gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Well, not quite everything. Found this parts site:
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/grand_c...eModel44WJ.htm
It is outdated and doesn't cover your model year, but it gives some
clues. Unfortunately it looks like you need new axle shafts for the
Vari-Lok. It also lists the Vari-Lok case as having either 3/8" or 7/16"
ring gear bolt holes, so you need to find out what ring gear bolts your
current differential has in order to reuse your ring & pinion gears.
> Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
> dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
> it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
Probably talking about the Dana Trac-Lok. It was an OEM option on Grands
prior to 2002, so it should work with your axles, housing, and gears. It
uses friction clutch packs that need to be replaced periodically and it
doesn't perform as well as a Vari-Lok:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/traclok.html
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
02-24-2005, 06:01 PM
#58
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
Grand Jeep wrote:
> So from what you're saying, I should be able to swap out the standard diff
> gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Well, not quite everything. Found this parts site:
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/grand_c...eModel44WJ.htm
It is outdated and doesn't cover your model year, but it gives some
clues. Unfortunately it looks like you need new axle shafts for the
Vari-Lok. It also lists the Vari-Lok case as having either 3/8" or 7/16"
ring gear bolt holes, so you need to find out what ring gear bolts your
current differential has in order to reuse your ring & pinion gears.
> Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
> dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
> it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
Probably talking about the Dana Trac-Lok. It was an OEM option on Grands
prior to 2002, so it should work with your axles, housing, and gears. It
uses friction clutch packs that need to be replaced periodically and it
doesn't perform as well as a Vari-Lok:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/traclok.html
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> So from what you're saying, I should be able to swap out the standard diff
> gears with the vari-lok and everything should fit?
Well, not quite everything. Found this parts site:
http://www.jeep4x4center.com/grand_c...eModel44WJ.htm
It is outdated and doesn't cover your model year, but it gives some
clues. Unfortunately it looks like you need new axle shafts for the
Vari-Lok. It also lists the Vari-Lok case as having either 3/8" or 7/16"
ring gear bolt holes, so you need to find out what ring gear bolts your
current differential has in order to reuse your ring & pinion gears.
> Also, I called around to some local 4x4 shops and got quoted about 600-800
> dollars for a new limited-slip unit (purchased and installed) One mentioned
> it was an actual DANA limited slip diff that designed for D-44 axles???
Probably talking about the Dana Trac-Lok. It was an OEM option on Grands
prior to 2002, so it should work with your axles, housing, and gears. It
uses friction clutch packs that need to be replaced periodically and it
doesn't perform as well as a Vari-Lok:
http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/traclok.html
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
02-25-2005, 12:39 PM
#59
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
If they make a vari lock for the D44, I can't imagine why it couldn't be put
into a Jeep.
"Grand Jeep" <spam@is.bad> wrote in message news:421ca038$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Will the Vari-lok fit the dana 44?
> I believe the vari-lok was an option for my model jeep, so it seems
logical
> that they could replace my open diff with the vari-lok?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:xOadnd0wUNCYIIbfRVn-hw@ez2.net...
> > Yes, there is a limited slip that will fit your D44.
> >
> >
>
>
into a Jeep.
"Grand Jeep" <spam@is.bad> wrote in message news:421ca038$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Will the Vari-lok fit the dana 44?
> I believe the vari-lok was an option for my model jeep, so it seems
logical
> that they could replace my open diff with the vari-lok?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:xOadnd0wUNCYIIbfRVn-hw@ez2.net...
> > Yes, there is a limited slip that will fit your D44.
> >
> >
>
>
02-25-2005, 12:39 PM
#60
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
If they make a vari lock for the D44, I can't imagine why it couldn't be put
into a Jeep.
"Grand Jeep" <spam@is.bad> wrote in message news:421ca038$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Will the Vari-lok fit the dana 44?
> I believe the vari-lok was an option for my model jeep, so it seems
logical
> that they could replace my open diff with the vari-lok?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:xOadnd0wUNCYIIbfRVn-hw@ez2.net...
> > Yes, there is a limited slip that will fit your D44.
> >
> >
>
>
into a Jeep.
"Grand Jeep" <spam@is.bad> wrote in message news:421ca038$1@news.gvsu.edu...
> Will the Vari-lok fit the dana 44?
> I believe the vari-lok was an option for my model jeep, so it seems
logical
> that they could replace my open diff with the vari-lok?
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
> news:xOadnd0wUNCYIIbfRVn-hw@ez2.net...
> > Yes, there is a limited slip that will fit your D44.
> >
> >
>
>