new rear diff, possible?
02-23-2005, 02:44 PM
#31
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
Scratch the surface to see.
http://jeep.avtograd.ru/Grand_Cherok.../Dana44_crack/
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Grand Jeep wrote:
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:c63Td.19737$Tt.3901@fed1read05...
>
>>Um, that Grand Cherokee's aluminum housing Dana 44 is different from the
>>cast iron housing Dana 44 used in a TJ and I seriously doubt the Varilok
>>or much else inside the axle will fit.
http://jeep.avtograd.ru/Grand_Cherok.../Dana44_crack/
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Grand Jeep wrote:
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:c63Td.19737$Tt.3901@fed1read05...
>
>>Um, that Grand Cherokee's aluminum housing Dana 44 is different from the
>>cast iron housing Dana 44 used in a TJ and I seriously doubt the Varilok
>>or much else inside the axle will fit.
02-23-2005, 02:50 PM
#32
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
Maybe they switched to the cast iron version for the V8 models. The
4.0L equipped JGCs sure have aluminum D44 housings. :)
Jerry
Grand Jeep wrote:
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:c63Td.19737$Tt.3901@fed1read05...
>
>>Um, that Grand Cherokee's aluminum housing Dana 44 is different from the
>>cast iron housing Dana 44 used in a TJ and I seriously doubt the Varilok
>>or much else inside the axle will fit.
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
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4.0L equipped JGCs sure have aluminum D44 housings. :)
Jerry
Grand Jeep wrote:
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:c63Td.19737$Tt.3901@fed1read05...
>
>>Um, that Grand Cherokee's aluminum housing Dana 44 is different from the
>>cast iron housing Dana 44 used in a TJ and I seriously doubt the Varilok
>>or much else inside the axle will fit.
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
02-23-2005, 02:50 PM
#33
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
Maybe they switched to the cast iron version for the V8 models. The
4.0L equipped JGCs sure have aluminum D44 housings. :)
Jerry
Grand Jeep wrote:
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:c63Td.19737$Tt.3901@fed1read05...
>
>>Um, that Grand Cherokee's aluminum housing Dana 44 is different from the
>>cast iron housing Dana 44 used in a TJ and I seriously doubt the Varilok
>>or much else inside the axle will fit.
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
4.0L equipped JGCs sure have aluminum D44 housings. :)
Jerry
Grand Jeep wrote:
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:c63Td.19737$Tt.3901@fed1read05...
>
>>Um, that Grand Cherokee's aluminum housing Dana 44 is different from the
>>cast iron housing Dana 44 used in a TJ and I seriously doubt the Varilok
>>or much else inside the axle will fit.
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
02-23-2005, 02:50 PM
#34
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
Maybe they switched to the cast iron version for the V8 models. The
4.0L equipped JGCs sure have aluminum D44 housings. :)
Jerry
Grand Jeep wrote:
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:c63Td.19737$Tt.3901@fed1read05...
>
>>Um, that Grand Cherokee's aluminum housing Dana 44 is different from the
>>cast iron housing Dana 44 used in a TJ and I seriously doubt the Varilok
>>or much else inside the axle will fit.
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
4.0L equipped JGCs sure have aluminum D44 housings. :)
Jerry
Grand Jeep wrote:
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:c63Td.19737$Tt.3901@fed1read05...
>
>>Um, that Grand Cherokee's aluminum housing Dana 44 is different from the
>>cast iron housing Dana 44 used in a TJ and I seriously doubt the Varilok
>>or much else inside the axle will fit.
>>
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
02-23-2005, 03:27 PM
#35
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
It was the ZJs that Chrysler assembled Dana's 44 ring and pinion in
an aluminum case with "C" clips:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d44.html Use a magnet to make
sure.
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Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
an aluminum case with "C" clips:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d44.html Use a magnet to make
sure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
02-23-2005, 03:27 PM
#36
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
It was the ZJs that Chrysler assembled Dana's 44 ring and pinion in
an aluminum case with "C" clips:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d44.html Use a magnet to make
sure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
an aluminum case with "C" clips:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d44.html Use a magnet to make
sure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
02-23-2005, 03:27 PM
#37
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
It was the ZJs that Chrysler assembled Dana's 44 ring and pinion in
an aluminum case with "C" clips:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d44.html Use a magnet to make
sure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
an aluminum case with "C" clips:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/d44.html Use a magnet to make
sure.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I'm no metallurgist, but the housing sure looks like cast iron and not
> aluminum. Of course, this is based solely on external appearance. :)
02-23-2005, 03:36 PM
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
The Vari-Lok is remotely hydraulically (?) operated, so it's going
be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
the cost of conversion.
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I've checked several dealers in the area, and I get a different answer from
> each one. Some say yes it can be done, others say no.
> Seems like it should work, as I said, the vari-lok was an option for my
> model year and style of grand cherokee, so I'm assuming they can just swap
> out the diff gears. Of course, I'm no mechanic, so I probably make it sound
> easier than it really is.
>
> Cost is the next thing, as you mentioned, I'm sure a dealer would charge BIG
> bucks to perform such a swap..... I'll call around a few other dealers out
> of town and see what happens.
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:383pphF5kl3slU2@individual.net...
> > Yes, your Dana 30 and Dana 44 axles are the same as those in the
> > Quadra-Drive models, minus the Vari-Loks of course. Should fit no problem.
> >
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/varilok.jpg
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> >
> > I'm guessing your dealer will want thousands just to do the rear.
> >
> > Unless you confirm the warranty thing, you might be better of with
> > something like a TrueTrac:
> >
> > http://www.4wdworld.com.au/products/detroit/detroit.htm
> >
> > Steve
> > http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >
> >
> > Grand Jeep wrote:
> > > Currently have stock 04 JGC with Quadra-Trac-II
> > > Rear end is a Dana44, traditional "open diff".
> > >
> > > Anyone know if I could install a limited-slip diff in it's place?
> (looking
> > > for the same system that comes with Quadra-Drive equipped jeeps, so I
> can
> > > keep what's left of my warranty)
> > > Can a the vari-lock limited slip diff directly replace my stock D44 open
> > > diff?
be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
the cost of conversion.
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I've checked several dealers in the area, and I get a different answer from
> each one. Some say yes it can be done, others say no.
> Seems like it should work, as I said, the vari-lok was an option for my
> model year and style of grand cherokee, so I'm assuming they can just swap
> out the diff gears. Of course, I'm no mechanic, so I probably make it sound
> easier than it really is.
>
> Cost is the next thing, as you mentioned, I'm sure a dealer would charge BIG
> bucks to perform such a swap..... I'll call around a few other dealers out
> of town and see what happens.
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:383pphF5kl3slU2@individual.net...
> > Yes, your Dana 30 and Dana 44 axles are the same as those in the
> > Quadra-Drive models, minus the Vari-Loks of course. Should fit no problem.
> >
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/varilok.jpg
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> >
> > I'm guessing your dealer will want thousands just to do the rear.
> >
> > Unless you confirm the warranty thing, you might be better of with
> > something like a TrueTrac:
> >
> > http://www.4wdworld.com.au/products/detroit/detroit.htm
> >
> > Steve
> > http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >
> >
> > Grand Jeep wrote:
> > > Currently have stock 04 JGC with Quadra-Trac-II
> > > Rear end is a Dana44, traditional "open diff".
> > >
> > > Anyone know if I could install a limited-slip diff in it's place?
> (looking
> > > for the same system that comes with Quadra-Drive equipped jeeps, so I
> can
> > > keep what's left of my warranty)
> > > Can a the vari-lock limited slip diff directly replace my stock D44 open
> > > diff?
02-23-2005, 03:36 PM
#39
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
The Vari-Lok is remotely hydraulically (?) operated, so it's going
be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
the cost of conversion.
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I've checked several dealers in the area, and I get a different answer from
> each one. Some say yes it can be done, others say no.
> Seems like it should work, as I said, the vari-lok was an option for my
> model year and style of grand cherokee, so I'm assuming they can just swap
> out the diff gears. Of course, I'm no mechanic, so I probably make it sound
> easier than it really is.
>
> Cost is the next thing, as you mentioned, I'm sure a dealer would charge BIG
> bucks to perform such a swap..... I'll call around a few other dealers out
> of town and see what happens.
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:383pphF5kl3slU2@individual.net...
> > Yes, your Dana 30 and Dana 44 axles are the same as those in the
> > Quadra-Drive models, minus the Vari-Loks of course. Should fit no problem.
> >
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/varilok.jpg
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> >
> > I'm guessing your dealer will want thousands just to do the rear.
> >
> > Unless you confirm the warranty thing, you might be better of with
> > something like a TrueTrac:
> >
> > http://www.4wdworld.com.au/products/detroit/detroit.htm
> >
> > Steve
> > http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >
> >
> > Grand Jeep wrote:
> > > Currently have stock 04 JGC with Quadra-Trac-II
> > > Rear end is a Dana44, traditional "open diff".
> > >
> > > Anyone know if I could install a limited-slip diff in it's place?
> (looking
> > > for the same system that comes with Quadra-Drive equipped jeeps, so I
> can
> > > keep what's left of my warranty)
> > > Can a the vari-lock limited slip diff directly replace my stock D44 open
> > > diff?
be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
the cost of conversion.
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I've checked several dealers in the area, and I get a different answer from
> each one. Some say yes it can be done, others say no.
> Seems like it should work, as I said, the vari-lok was an option for my
> model year and style of grand cherokee, so I'm assuming they can just swap
> out the diff gears. Of course, I'm no mechanic, so I probably make it sound
> easier than it really is.
>
> Cost is the next thing, as you mentioned, I'm sure a dealer would charge BIG
> bucks to perform such a swap..... I'll call around a few other dealers out
> of town and see what happens.
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:383pphF5kl3slU2@individual.net...
> > Yes, your Dana 30 and Dana 44 axles are the same as those in the
> > Quadra-Drive models, minus the Vari-Loks of course. Should fit no problem.
> >
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/varilok.jpg
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> >
> > I'm guessing your dealer will want thousands just to do the rear.
> >
> > Unless you confirm the warranty thing, you might be better of with
> > something like a TrueTrac:
> >
> > http://www.4wdworld.com.au/products/detroit/detroit.htm
> >
> > Steve
> > http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >
> >
> > Grand Jeep wrote:
> > > Currently have stock 04 JGC with Quadra-Trac-II
> > > Rear end is a Dana44, traditional "open diff".
> > >
> > > Anyone know if I could install a limited-slip diff in it's place?
> (looking
> > > for the same system that comes with Quadra-Drive equipped jeeps, so I
> can
> > > keep what's left of my warranty)
> > > Can a the vari-lock limited slip diff directly replace my stock D44 open
> > > diff?
02-23-2005, 03:36 PM
#40
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Re: new rear diff, possible?
The Vari-Lok is remotely hydraulically (?) operated, so it's going
be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
the cost of conversion.
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I've checked several dealers in the area, and I get a different answer from
> each one. Some say yes it can be done, others say no.
> Seems like it should work, as I said, the vari-lok was an option for my
> model year and style of grand cherokee, so I'm assuming they can just swap
> out the diff gears. Of course, I'm no mechanic, so I probably make it sound
> easier than it really is.
>
> Cost is the next thing, as you mentioned, I'm sure a dealer would charge BIG
> bucks to perform such a swap..... I'll call around a few other dealers out
> of town and see what happens.
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:383pphF5kl3slU2@individual.net...
> > Yes, your Dana 30 and Dana 44 axles are the same as those in the
> > Quadra-Drive models, minus the Vari-Loks of course. Should fit no problem.
> >
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/varilok.jpg
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> >
> > I'm guessing your dealer will want thousands just to do the rear.
> >
> > Unless you confirm the warranty thing, you might be better of with
> > something like a TrueTrac:
> >
> > http://www.4wdworld.com.au/products/detroit/detroit.htm
> >
> > Steve
> > http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >
> >
> > Grand Jeep wrote:
> > > Currently have stock 04 JGC with Quadra-Trac-II
> > > Rear end is a Dana44, traditional "open diff".
> > >
> > > Anyone know if I could install a limited-slip diff in it's place?
> (looking
> > > for the same system that comes with Quadra-Drive equipped jeeps, so I
> can
> > > keep what's left of my warranty)
> > > Can a the vari-lock limited slip diff directly replace my stock D44 open
> > > diff?
be tied in the computers that monitor the Anti-lock Brake System. I
don't think it's possible, like you could buy the whole car complete for
the cost of conversion.
http://web.archive.org/web/200403222.../chero4wd.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Grand Jeep wrote:
>
> I've checked several dealers in the area, and I get a different answer from
> each one. Some say yes it can be done, others say no.
> Seems like it should work, as I said, the vari-lok was an option for my
> model year and style of grand cherokee, so I'm assuming they can just swap
> out the diff gears. Of course, I'm no mechanic, so I probably make it sound
> easier than it really is.
>
> Cost is the next thing, as you mentioned, I'm sure a dealer would charge BIG
> bucks to perform such a swap..... I'll call around a few other dealers out
> of town and see what happens.
>
> "Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
> news:383pphF5kl3slU2@individual.net...
> > Yes, your Dana 30 and Dana 44 axles are the same as those in the
> > Quadra-Drive models, minus the Vari-Loks of course. Should fit no problem.
> >
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/varilok.jpg
> > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> >
> > I'm guessing your dealer will want thousands just to do the rear.
> >
> > Unless you confirm the warranty thing, you might be better of with
> > something like a TrueTrac:
> >
> > http://www.4wdworld.com.au/products/detroit/detroit.htm
> >
> > Steve
> > http://xjeep.dyndns.org
> >
> >
> > Grand Jeep wrote:
> > > Currently have stock 04 JGC with Quadra-Trac-II
> > > Rear end is a Dana44, traditional "open diff".
> > >
> > > Anyone know if I could install a limited-slip diff in it's place?
> (looking
> > > for the same system that comes with Quadra-Drive equipped jeeps, so I
> can
> > > keep what's left of my warranty)
> > > Can a the vari-lock limited slip diff directly replace my stock D44 open
> > > diff?