new jeep - mastershield undercoat
11-23-2003, 08:10 AM
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new jeep - mastershield undercoat
Hi,
I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
thing to have them do?
Thanks,
Eric
I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
thing to have them do?
Thanks,
Eric
11-23-2003, 11:21 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
Personally I would never have a dealer spray any sort of "rust proofing" to
any vehicle new or used. First off its a rip off as they over charge for the
stuff, the fine print usually only requires the dealer to "touch-up" the
rust proofing in future resprays among other things. If you want to get you
car rust proofed here is by far one of the best aftermarket sprays out
there. (and the have a new car rust through warranty)
http://www.rustcheck.com/
Snow...
11-23-2003, 11:21 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
Personally I would never have a dealer spray any sort of "rust proofing" to
any vehicle new or used. First off its a rip off as they over charge for the
stuff, the fine print usually only requires the dealer to "touch-up" the
rust proofing in future resprays among other things. If you want to get you
car rust proofed here is by far one of the best aftermarket sprays out
there. (and the have a new car rust through warranty)
http://www.rustcheck.com/
Snow...
11-23-2003, 11:21 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
Personally I would never have a dealer spray any sort of "rust proofing" to
any vehicle new or used. First off its a rip off as they over charge for the
stuff, the fine print usually only requires the dealer to "touch-up" the
rust proofing in future resprays among other things. If you want to get you
car rust proofed here is by far one of the best aftermarket sprays out
there. (and the have a new car rust through warranty)
http://www.rustcheck.com/
Snow...
11-23-2003, 05:46 PM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
The biggest problem with most undercoating is that you can't SEE what is
happening underneath it. If the slightest amount of salt/moisture manages to
find its way under the coating, a lot of corrosion can occur before you know
it, because it can't evaporate like a normal splash. Additionally, the heavy
coatings must be applied perfectly to keep drains, weep holes, and channels
from closing, which will guarantee rust in a big way. These guys are going
to slop it on as quick as they can - time is money.
It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every spot
you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and rust
free you can keep a new car if you try.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each
other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."- G.W. Bush,
Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
happening underneath it. If the slightest amount of salt/moisture manages to
find its way under the coating, a lot of corrosion can occur before you know
it, because it can't evaporate like a normal splash. Additionally, the heavy
coatings must be applied perfectly to keep drains, weep holes, and channels
from closing, which will guarantee rust in a big way. These guys are going
to slop it on as quick as they can - time is money.
It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every spot
you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and rust
free you can keep a new car if you try.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each
other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."- G.W. Bush,
Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
11-23-2003, 05:46 PM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
The biggest problem with most undercoating is that you can't SEE what is
happening underneath it. If the slightest amount of salt/moisture manages to
find its way under the coating, a lot of corrosion can occur before you know
it, because it can't evaporate like a normal splash. Additionally, the heavy
coatings must be applied perfectly to keep drains, weep holes, and channels
from closing, which will guarantee rust in a big way. These guys are going
to slop it on as quick as they can - time is money.
It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every spot
you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and rust
free you can keep a new car if you try.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each
other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."- G.W. Bush,
Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
happening underneath it. If the slightest amount of salt/moisture manages to
find its way under the coating, a lot of corrosion can occur before you know
it, because it can't evaporate like a normal splash. Additionally, the heavy
coatings must be applied perfectly to keep drains, weep holes, and channels
from closing, which will guarantee rust in a big way. These guys are going
to slop it on as quick as they can - time is money.
It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every spot
you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and rust
free you can keep a new car if you try.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each
other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."- G.W. Bush,
Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
11-23-2003, 05:46 PM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
The biggest problem with most undercoating is that you can't SEE what is
happening underneath it. If the slightest amount of salt/moisture manages to
find its way under the coating, a lot of corrosion can occur before you know
it, because it can't evaporate like a normal splash. Additionally, the heavy
coatings must be applied perfectly to keep drains, weep holes, and channels
from closing, which will guarantee rust in a big way. These guys are going
to slop it on as quick as they can - time is money.
It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every spot
you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and rust
free you can keep a new car if you try.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each
other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."- G.W. Bush,
Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
happening underneath it. If the slightest amount of salt/moisture manages to
find its way under the coating, a lot of corrosion can occur before you know
it, because it can't evaporate like a normal splash. Additionally, the heavy
coatings must be applied perfectly to keep drains, weep holes, and channels
from closing, which will guarantee rust in a big way. These guys are going
to slop it on as quick as they can - time is money.
It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every spot
you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and rust
free you can keep a new car if you try.
--
Dana Rohleder
Port Kent, NY
"See, free nations are peaceful nations. Free nations don't attack each
other. Free nations don't develop weapons of mass destruction."- G.W. Bush,
Milwaukee, Wis., Oct. 3, 2003
"Eric W. Williams" <eww@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:vl2wb.214212$9E1.1145886@attbi_s52...
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the process of getting a new Jeep wrangler, I have opted to get
> the extra protect and preserve option called master shield undercoat.
> The sales person said it's similar to pickup-truck bed lining applied to
> the bottom. Does anyone have any experience with this? After agreeing,
> thoughts popped into my head of this undercoat sprayed over more than
> what should be covered, grease zerks etc.. I was told that nothing like
> that would happen because they wouldn't do anything that would cause
> service techs extra work themselves. Is the undercoating really a good
> thing to have them do?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
11-24-2003, 10:19 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vs2e5eetur2aa2@corp.supernews.com...
> It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
> expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
> or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
> better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
> even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
> car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every
spot
> you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
> neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and
rust
> free you can keep a new car if you try.
I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more prone
to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet metal is
thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just welded, where
as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and stamped before being
welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer to have every rust spot
touched up you will be paying a fortune, the best bet is to use a liquid
rust proofing like rust check (www.rustcheck.com ).
Snow...
11-24-2003, 10:19 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vs2e5eetur2aa2@corp.supernews.com...
> It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
> expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
> or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
> better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
> even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
> car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every
spot
> you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
> neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and
rust
> free you can keep a new car if you try.
I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more prone
to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet metal is
thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just welded, where
as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and stamped before being
welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer to have every rust spot
touched up you will be paying a fortune, the best bet is to use a liquid
rust proofing like rust check (www.rustcheck.com ).
Snow...
11-24-2003, 10:19 AM
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Re: new jeep - mastershield undercoat
"Dana Rohleder" <boreal@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vs2e5eetur2aa2@corp.supernews.com...
> It was probably helpful 20-30 years ago when an untreated car had a life
> expectancy of 3-5 years before it was rusted out. It may heve added a year
> or two to the car by keeping some of the rust at bay. But cars are much
> better corrosion-proofed during the manufacturing process than they were
> even 10 years ago - even Jeeps. I think nowdays the best route with a new
> car is to inspect it thoroughly for any rust at every oil change. Every
spot
> you see, either have the dealer fix it or fix it yourself with a rust
> neutralizer like POR and paint. You would be surprised at how clean and
rust
> free you can keep a new car if you try.
I have to disagree with this very strongly... Newer vehicles are more prone
to rust then anything built 20-30 years ago.. Today the sheet metal is
thinner and weaker seams are not made the same they are just welded, where
as on older vehicle the seam edges were rolled and stamped before being
welded. Not to mention, if you go to the dealer to have every rust spot
touched up you will be paying a fortune, the best bet is to use a liquid
rust proofing like rust check (www.rustcheck.com ).
Snow...