Re: New AC evaporator install
 

On most, you just have to drop the steering column loose from the dash.
It drops a bit and then the dash move enough to get behind it.

If they have known since 93 their supplier is crap, well, a 'normal'
person would change suppliers....

BUT wait, they can 'sucker' thousands of people to pay out a grand each
to get it fixed, I guess that is good enough reason to stay with the
same supplier eh?

Mike

Bob Casanova wrote:
>
> On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:45:52 -0400, the following appeared
> in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain
> <romainm@sympatico.ca>:
>
> >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
> >the only part you can't get to??????
>
> For a while CC had a problem with shoddy evap coils; they
> tended to develop holes after a couple of years. My wife's
> '93 Concorde went through 4 in 8 years (paid for by CC,
> since they acknowledged the problem). I don't know if they
> had the same problem across all lines, but it's certainly
> possible.
>
> >I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?
> >
> >'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
> >usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine
> >area. Nothing moves under the dash.....
> >
> >I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00
> >to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
> >thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....
> >
> >And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
> >find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.
>
> In the XJ it starts out with "Remove the dash" (I don't
> recall if this also requires removing the steering assembly,
> which gets into airbag/clockspring issues, and my manual is
> packed away, and I don't know if the TJ has the same
> requirements), since apparently no one seems to have gotten
> the brilliant idea of putting it in a housing *ahead* of the
> firewall for easy access. Not really complicated, but a good
> 6-8 hours for a decent mechanic.
>
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> >
> >HG97TJ wrote:
> >>
> >> Klif,
> >>
> >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
> >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> >> fixed.
> >>
> >> Howie
> >>
> >> Klif wrote:
> >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do
> >> > this
> >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> >> > >
> >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order
> >> > to
> >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the
> >> > system
> >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> >> > > nudge.)
> >> > >
> >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> >> > >
> >> > > Earle
> >> > >
> >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows
> >> > > but
> >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up
> >> > driving
> >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and
> >> > > not
> >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> >> > > > TIA
> >> > > > Klif
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
> >> >
> >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> >> > Klif
> --
>
> Bob C.
>
> "Evidence confirming an observation is
> evidence that the observation is wrong."
> - McNameless

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

A major component change lets water into the system, but a new dryer,
accumulator, or whatever they use in this system should take care of that.
I like to pump the system down, and make sure it stays down for a few hours.
But then I have a vacuum pump and a set of gauges, I live in the middle of
nowhere, I am going for longest time possible between service, and I don't
charge myself, to leave the vacuum on all night. If I were going to replace
the evaporator myself, and then have a shop charge up the system, I would
make darn sure I hadn't screwed anything up, before putting the dash
together.

This is the rub, I think. How do you plan to check for leaks, before you
put the dash back together? This is not an unsolvable problem, but one
worth looking at.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447DCDA7.7E1D1B38@sympatico.ca...
> If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one
> that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty
> system filled up.
>
> There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major
> component change....
>
> I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores,
> etc.... Bill's photo says it all....
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even
a
> > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator
> > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system
charged,
> > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through.
> >
> > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to
replace
> > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the
> > time to evacuate and charge the system.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca...
> > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be
on
> > > the only part you can't get to??????
> > >
> > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?
> > >
> > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
> > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the
engine
> > > area. Nothing moves under the dash.....
> > >
> > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to
$1000.00
> > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
> > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....
> > >
> > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
> > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > >
> > > HG97TJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Klif,
> > > >
> > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was
qouted
> > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> > > > fixed.
> > > >
> > > > Howie
> > > >
> > > > Klif wrote:
> > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA
certified to
> > do
> > > > > this
> > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto
parts
> > store,
> > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the
job
> > right.
> > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant,
in
> > order
> > > > > to
> > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required,
unless
> > the
> > > > > system
> > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink,
wink,
> > nudge,
> > > > > > nudge.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not
worth
> > the
> > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Earle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down
the
> > windows
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited
up
> > > > > driving
> > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job
> > interview and
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Klif
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from
http://www.teranews.com
> > ***
> > > > >
> > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> > > > > Klif
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



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Re: New AC evaporator install
 

A major component change lets water into the system, but a new dryer,
accumulator, or whatever they use in this system should take care of that.
I like to pump the system down, and make sure it stays down for a few hours.
But then I have a vacuum pump and a set of gauges, I live in the middle of
nowhere, I am going for longest time possible between service, and I don't
charge myself, to leave the vacuum on all night. If I were going to replace
the evaporator myself, and then have a shop charge up the system, I would
make darn sure I hadn't screwed anything up, before putting the dash
together.

This is the rub, I think. How do you plan to check for leaks, before you
put the dash back together? This is not an unsolvable problem, but one
worth looking at.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447DCDA7.7E1D1B38@sympatico.ca...
> If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one
> that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty
> system filled up.
>
> There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major
> component change....
>
> I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores,
> etc.... Bill's photo says it all....
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even
a
> > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator
> > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system
charged,
> > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through.
> >
> > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to
replace
> > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the
> > time to evacuate and charge the system.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca...
> > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be
on
> > > the only part you can't get to??????
> > >
> > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?
> > >
> > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
> > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the
engine
> > > area. Nothing moves under the dash.....
> > >
> > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to
$1000.00
> > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
> > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....
> > >
> > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
> > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > >
> > > HG97TJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Klif,
> > > >
> > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was
qouted
> > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> > > > fixed.
> > > >
> > > > Howie
> > > >
> > > > Klif wrote:
> > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA
certified to
> > do
> > > > > this
> > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto
parts
> > store,
> > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the
job
> > right.
> > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant,
in
> > order
> > > > > to
> > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required,
unless
> > the
> > > > > system
> > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink,
wink,
> > nudge,
> > > > > > nudge.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not
worth
> > the
> > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Earle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down
the
> > windows
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited
up
> > > > > driving
> > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job
> > interview and
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Klif
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from
http://www.teranews.com
> > ***
> > > > >
> > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> > > > > Klif
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



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Re: New AC evaporator install
 

A major component change lets water into the system, but a new dryer,
accumulator, or whatever they use in this system should take care of that.
I like to pump the system down, and make sure it stays down for a few hours.
But then I have a vacuum pump and a set of gauges, I live in the middle of
nowhere, I am going for longest time possible between service, and I don't
charge myself, to leave the vacuum on all night. If I were going to replace
the evaporator myself, and then have a shop charge up the system, I would
make darn sure I hadn't screwed anything up, before putting the dash
together.

This is the rub, I think. How do you plan to check for leaks, before you
put the dash back together? This is not an unsolvable problem, but one
worth looking at.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447DCDA7.7E1D1B38@sympatico.ca...
> If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one
> that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty
> system filled up.
>
> There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major
> component change....
>
> I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores,
> etc.... Bill's photo says it all....
>
> Mike
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even
a
> > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator
> > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system
charged,
> > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through.
> >
> > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to
replace
> > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the
> > time to evacuate and charge the system.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca...
> > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be
on
> > > the only part you can't get to??????
> > >
> > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?
> > >
> > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
> > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the
engine
> > > area. Nothing moves under the dash.....
> > >
> > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to
$1000.00
> > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
> > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....
> > >
> > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
> > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> > >
> > >
> > > HG97TJ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Klif,
> > > >
> > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was
qouted
> > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> > > > fixed.
> > > >
> > > > Howie
> > > >
> > > > Klif wrote:
> > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA
certified to
> > do
> > > > > this
> > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto
parts
> > store,
> > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the
job
> > right.
> > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant,
in
> > order
> > > > > to
> > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required,
unless
> > the
> > > > > system
> > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink,
wink,
> > nudge,
> > > > > > nudge.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not
worth
> > the
> > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Earle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down
the
> > windows
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited
up
> > > > > driving
> > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job
> > interview and
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > > Klif
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from
http://www.teranews.com
> > ***
> > > > >
> > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> > > > > Klif
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



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Re: New AC evaporator install
 

Sounds like an excuse to stop by the beach:
http://www.camzone.com/index.php?cam=scripps
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HG97TJ wrote:
>
> Klif,
>
> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> fixed.
>
> Howie

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

Sounds like an excuse to stop by the beach:
http://www.camzone.com/index.php?cam=scripps
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HG97TJ wrote:
>
> Klif,
>
> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> fixed.
>
> Howie

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

Sounds like an excuse to stop by the beach:
http://www.camzone.com/index.php?cam=scripps
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

HG97TJ wrote:
>
> Klif,
>
> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> fixed.
>
> Howie

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca...
>I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
> the only part you can't get to??????
>
> I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?
>
> 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
> usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine
> area. Nothing moves under the dash.....
>
> I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00
> to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
> thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....
>
> And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
> find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> HG97TJ wrote:
>>
>> Klif,
>>
>> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
>> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
>> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
>> fixed.
>>
>> Howie
>>
>> Klif wrote:
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to
>> > > do
>> > this
>> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
>> > >
>> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts
>> > > store,
>> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job
>> > > right.
>> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in
>> > > order
>> > to
>> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the
>> > system
>> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink,
>> > > nudge,
>> > > nudge.)
>> > >
>> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth
>> > > the
>> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
>> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
>> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
>> > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
>> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the
>> > > > windows
>> > > but
>> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up
>> > driving
>> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview
>> > > > and
>> > > not
>> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
>> > > > TIA
>> > > > Klif
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>> >
>> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
>> > Klif

For $200.00 the stealer put a blue dye in the system to help locate the
leak.....when I brought it back 1 week later.
Klif

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca...
>I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
> the only part you can't get to??????
>
> I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?
>
> 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
> usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine
> area. Nothing moves under the dash.....
>
> I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00
> to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
> thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....
>
> And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
> find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> HG97TJ wrote:
>>
>> Klif,
>>
>> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
>> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
>> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
>> fixed.
>>
>> Howie
>>
>> Klif wrote:
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to
>> > > do
>> > this
>> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
>> > >
>> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts
>> > > store,
>> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job
>> > > right.
>> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in
>> > > order
>> > to
>> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the
>> > system
>> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink,
>> > > nudge,
>> > > nudge.)
>> > >
>> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth
>> > > the
>> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
>> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
>> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
>> > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
>> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the
>> > > > windows
>> > > but
>> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up
>> > driving
>> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview
>> > > > and
>> > > not
>> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
>> > > > TIA
>> > > > Klif
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>> >
>> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
>> > Klif

For $200.00 the stealer put a blue dye in the system to help locate the
leak.....when I brought it back 1 week later.
Klif

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca...
>I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
> the only part you can't get to??????
>
> I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?
>
> 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
> usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine
> area. Nothing moves under the dash.....
>
> I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00
> to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
> thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....
>
> And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
> find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> HG97TJ wrote:
>>
>> Klif,
>>
>> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
>> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
>> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
>> fixed.
>>
>> Howie
>>
>> Klif wrote:
>> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to
>> > > do
>> > this
>> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
>> > >
>> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts
>> > > store,
>> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job
>> > > right.
>> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in
>> > > order
>> > to
>> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the
>> > system
>> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink,
>> > > nudge,
>> > > nudge.)
>> > >
>> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth
>> > > the
>> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
>> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
>> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
>> > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
>> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the
>> > > > windows
>> > > but
>> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up
>> > driving
>> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview
>> > > > and
>> > > not
>> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
>> > > > TIA
>> > > > Klif
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
>> >
>> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
>> > Klif

For $200.00 the stealer put a blue dye in the system to help locate the
leak.....when I brought it back 1 week later.
Klif