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Klif 05-31-2006 07:57 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

this
> job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
>
> You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

to
> work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

system
> had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> nudge.)
>
> Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
>
> Earle
>
> "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows

> but
> > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

driving
> > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and

> not
> > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > TIA
> > Klif
> >
> >

>
>
>
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***


Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
Klif



Klif 05-31-2006 07:57 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

this
> job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
>
> You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

to
> work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

system
> had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> nudge.)
>
> Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
>
> Earle
>
> "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows

> but
> > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

driving
> > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and

> not
> > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > TIA
> > Klif
> >
> >

>
>
>
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***


Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
Klif



Klif 05-31-2006 07:57 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 

"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

this
> job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
>
> You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

to
> work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

system
> had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> nudge.)
>
> Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
>
> Earle
>
> "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows

> but
> > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

driving
> > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and

> not
> > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > TIA
> > Klif
> >
> >

>
>
>
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***


Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
Klif



HG97TJ 05-31-2006 08:38 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 
Klif,

I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
fixed.

Howie



Klif wrote:
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

> this
> > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> >
> > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

> to
> > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

> system
> > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> > nudge.)
> >
> > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows

> > but
> > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

> driving
> > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and

> > not
> > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > TIA
> > > Klif
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***

>
> Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> Klif



HG97TJ 05-31-2006 08:38 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 
Klif,

I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
fixed.

Howie



Klif wrote:
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

> this
> > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> >
> > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

> to
> > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

> system
> > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> > nudge.)
> >
> > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows

> > but
> > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

> driving
> > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and

> > not
> > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > TIA
> > > Klif
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***

>
> Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> Klif



HG97TJ 05-31-2006 08:38 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 
Klif,

I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
fixed.

Howie



Klif wrote:
> "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

> this
> > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> >
> > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

> to
> > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

> system
> > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> > nudge.)
> >
> > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows

> > but
> > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

> driving
> > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and

> > not
> > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > TIA
> > > Klif
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***

>
> Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> Klif



Mike Romain 05-31-2006 09:45 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 
I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
the only part you can't get to??????

I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?

'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine
area. Nothing moves under the dash.....

I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00
to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....

And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


HG97TJ wrote:
>
> Klif,
>
> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> fixed.
>
> Howie
>
> Klif wrote:
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

> > this
> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> > >
> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

> > to
> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

> > system
> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> > > nudge.)
> > >
> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows
> > > but
> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

> > driving
> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and
> > > not
> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > > TIA
> > > > Klif
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***

> >
> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> > Klif


Mike Romain 05-31-2006 09:45 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 
I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
the only part you can't get to??????

I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?

'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine
area. Nothing moves under the dash.....

I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00
to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....

And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


HG97TJ wrote:
>
> Klif,
>
> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> fixed.
>
> Howie
>
> Klif wrote:
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

> > this
> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> > >
> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

> > to
> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

> > system
> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> > > nudge.)
> > >
> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows
> > > but
> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

> > driving
> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and
> > > not
> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > > TIA
> > > > Klif
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***

> >
> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> > Klif


Mike Romain 05-31-2006 09:45 AM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 
I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
the only part you can't get to??????

I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?

'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine
area. Nothing moves under the dash.....

I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00
to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....

And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


HG97TJ wrote:
>
> Klif,
>
> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> fixed.
>
> Howie
>
> Klif wrote:
> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do

> > this
> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> > >
> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store,
> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right.
> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order

> > to
> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the

> > system
> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge,
> > > nudge.)
> > >
> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the
> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows
> > > but
> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up

> > driving
> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and
> > > not
> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > > TIA
> > > > Klif
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***

> >
> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> > Klif


Earle Horton 05-31-2006 12:52 PM

Re: New AC evaporator install
 
Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a
vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator
yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged,
but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through.

I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace
the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the
time to evacuate and charge the system.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca...
> I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
> the only part you can't get to??????
>
> I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed?
>
> 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are
> usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine
> area. Nothing moves under the dash.....
>
> I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00
> to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more
> thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more.....
>
> And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to
> find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> HG97TJ wrote:
> >
> > Klif,
> >
> > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted
> > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll
> > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it
> > fixed.
> >
> > Howie
> >
> > Klif wrote:
> > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
> > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to

do
> > > this
> > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^)
> > > >
> > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts

store,
> > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job

right.
> > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in

order
> > > to
> > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless

the
> > > system
> > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink,

nudge,
> > > > nudge.)
> > > >
> > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth

the
> > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message
> > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05...
> > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
> > > > > I have moderate wrench skills.
> > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the

windows
> > > > but
> > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up
> > > driving
> > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job

interview and
> > > > not
> > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > Klif
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

***
> > >
> > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle.
> > > Klif




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