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New AC evaporator install
How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks.
I have moderate wrench skills. The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows but sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and not look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara TIA Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Are you EPA certified and do you have a clue? If not enough said pay the
price and you will be better off. Coasty "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > I have moderate wrench skills. > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > but > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > not > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > TIA > Klif > > |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Are you EPA certified and do you have a clue? If not enough said pay the
price and you will be better off. Coasty "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > I have moderate wrench skills. > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > but > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > not > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > TIA > Klif > > |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Are you EPA certified and do you have a clue? If not enough said pay the
price and you will be better off. Coasty "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > I have moderate wrench skills. > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > but > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > not > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > TIA > Klif > > |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do this
job, but you should have a clue. ;^) You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order to work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the system had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.) Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. Earle "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > I have moderate wrench skills. > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows but > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and not > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > TIA > Klif > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do this
job, but you should have a clue. ;^) You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order to work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the system had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.) Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. Earle "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > I have moderate wrench skills. > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows but > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and not > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > TIA > Klif > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do this
job, but you should have a clue. ;^) You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order to work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the system had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.) Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. Earle "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > I have moderate wrench skills. > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows but > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and not > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > TIA > Klif > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message news:DPWdne6c4pY0V-HZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Are you EPA certified and do you have a clue? If not enough said pay the > price and you will be better off. > Coasty > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > but > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > not > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > TIA > > Klif > > > > > > No I'm not. No I don't. No I won't. Thx Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message news:DPWdne6c4pY0V-HZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Are you EPA certified and do you have a clue? If not enough said pay the > price and you will be better off. > Coasty > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > but > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > not > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > TIA > > Klif > > > > > > No I'm not. No I don't. No I won't. Thx Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Coasty" <uscg_ret at comcast dot net> wrote in message news:DPWdne6c4pY0V-HZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Are you EPA certified and do you have a clue? If not enough said pay the > price and you will be better off. > Coasty > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > but > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > not > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > TIA > > Klif > > > > > > No I'm not. No I don't. No I won't. Thx Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do this > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order to > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the system > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > nudge.) > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > Earle > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > but > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > not > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > TIA > > Klif > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do this > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order to > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the system > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > nudge.) > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > Earle > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > but > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > not > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > TIA > > Klif > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do this > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order to > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the system > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > nudge.) > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > Earle > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > but > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up driving > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > not > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > TIA > > Klif > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Klif,
I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it fixed. Howie Klif wrote: > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > this > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > to > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > system > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > nudge.) > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > Earle > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > but > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > driving > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > not > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > TIA > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Klif,
I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it fixed. Howie Klif wrote: > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > this > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > to > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > system > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > nudge.) > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > Earle > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > but > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > driving > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > not > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > TIA > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Klif,
I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it fixed. Howie Klif wrote: > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > this > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > to > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > system > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > nudge.) > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > Earle > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > but > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > driving > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > not > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > TIA > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
the only part you can't get to?????? I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine area. Nothing moves under the dash..... I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) HG97TJ wrote: > > Klif, > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > fixed. > > Howie > > Klif wrote: > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > > this > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > > to > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > > system > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > > nudge.) > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > > but > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > driving > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > > not > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > TIA > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
the only part you can't get to?????? I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine area. Nothing moves under the dash..... I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) HG97TJ wrote: > > Klif, > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > fixed. > > Howie > > Klif wrote: > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > > this > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > > to > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > > system > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > > nudge.) > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > > but > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > driving > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > > not > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > TIA > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on
the only part you can't get to?????? I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine area. Nothing moves under the dash..... I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) HG97TJ wrote: > > Klif, > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > fixed. > > Howie > > Klif wrote: > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > > this > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > > to > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > > system > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > > nudge.) > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > > but > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > driving > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > > not > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > TIA > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a
vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the time to evacuate and charge the system. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > the only part you can't get to?????? > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > Klif, > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > fixed. > > > > Howie > > > > Klif wrote: > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > > > this > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > > > to > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > > > system > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > > > but > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > driving > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > > > not > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > TIA > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > Klif -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a
vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the time to evacuate and charge the system. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > the only part you can't get to?????? > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > Klif, > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > fixed. > > > > Howie > > > > Klif wrote: > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > > > this > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > > > to > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > > > system > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > > > but > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > driving > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > > > not > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > TIA > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > Klif -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a
vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the time to evacuate and charge the system. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > the only part you can't get to?????? > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > Klif, > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > fixed. > > > > Howie > > > > Klif wrote: > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > > > this > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > > > to > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > > > system > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > > > > but > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > driving > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > > > > not > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > TIA > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > Klif -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:45:52 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>: >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on >the only part you can't get to?????? For a while CC had a problem with shoddy evap coils; they tended to develop holes after a couple of years. My wife's '93 Concorde went through 4 in 8 years (paid for by CC, since they acknowledged the problem). I don't know if they had the same problem across all lines, but it's certainly possible. >I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > >'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are >usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine >area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > >I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 >to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more >thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > >And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to >find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. In the XJ it starts out with "Remove the dash" (I don't recall if this also requires removing the steering assembly, which gets into airbag/clockspring issues, and my manual is packed away, and I don't know if the TJ has the same requirements), since apparently no one seems to have gotten the brilliant idea of putting it in a housing *ahead* of the firewall for easy access. Not really complicated, but a good 6-8 hours for a decent mechanic. >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >HG97TJ wrote: >> >> Klif, >> >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it >> fixed. >> >> Howie >> >> Klif wrote: >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do >> > this >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) >> > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order >> > to >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the >> > system >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, >> > > nudge.) >> > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows >> > > but >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up >> > driving >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and >> > > not >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara >> > > > TIA >> > > > Klif >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** >> > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. >> > Klif -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
Re: New AC evaporator install
On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:45:52 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>: >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on >the only part you can't get to?????? For a while CC had a problem with shoddy evap coils; they tended to develop holes after a couple of years. My wife's '93 Concorde went through 4 in 8 years (paid for by CC, since they acknowledged the problem). I don't know if they had the same problem across all lines, but it's certainly possible. >I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > >'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are >usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine >area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > >I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 >to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more >thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > >And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to >find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. In the XJ it starts out with "Remove the dash" (I don't recall if this also requires removing the steering assembly, which gets into airbag/clockspring issues, and my manual is packed away, and I don't know if the TJ has the same requirements), since apparently no one seems to have gotten the brilliant idea of putting it in a housing *ahead* of the firewall for easy access. Not really complicated, but a good 6-8 hours for a decent mechanic. >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >HG97TJ wrote: >> >> Klif, >> >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it >> fixed. >> >> Howie >> >> Klif wrote: >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do >> > this >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) >> > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order >> > to >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the >> > system >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, >> > > nudge.) >> > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows >> > > but >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up >> > driving >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and >> > > not >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara >> > > > TIA >> > > > Klif >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** >> > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. >> > Klif -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
Re: New AC evaporator install
On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:45:52 -0400, the following appeared
in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>: >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on >the only part you can't get to?????? For a while CC had a problem with shoddy evap coils; they tended to develop holes after a couple of years. My wife's '93 Concorde went through 4 in 8 years (paid for by CC, since they acknowledged the problem). I don't know if they had the same problem across all lines, but it's certainly possible. >I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > >'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are >usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine >area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > >I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 >to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more >thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > >And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to >find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. In the XJ it starts out with "Remove the dash" (I don't recall if this also requires removing the steering assembly, which gets into airbag/clockspring issues, and my manual is packed away, and I don't know if the TJ has the same requirements), since apparently no one seems to have gotten the brilliant idea of putting it in a housing *ahead* of the firewall for easy access. Not really complicated, but a good 6-8 hours for a decent mechanic. >Mike >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > >HG97TJ wrote: >> >> Klif, >> >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it >> fixed. >> >> Howie >> >> Klif wrote: >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do >> > this >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) >> > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order >> > to >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the >> > system >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, >> > > nudge.) >> > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows >> > > but >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up >> > driving >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and >> > > not >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara >> > > > TIA >> > > > Klif >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** >> > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. >> > Klif -- Bob C. "Evidence confirming an observation is evidence that the observation is wrong." - McNameless |
Re: New AC evaporator install
If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one
that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty system filled up. There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major component change.... I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores, etc.... Bill's photo says it all.... Mike Earle Horton wrote: > > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. > > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the > time to evacuate and charge the system. > > Earle > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > > the only part you can't get to?????? > > > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > > > Klif, > > > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > > fixed. > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > Klif wrote: > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to > do > > > > this > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts > store, > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job > right. > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in > order > > > > to > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless > the > > > > system > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, > nudge, > > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth > the > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the > windows > > > > > but > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > > driving > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job > interview and > > > > > not > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > *** > > > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > > Klif > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one
that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty system filled up. There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major component change.... I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores, etc.... Bill's photo says it all.... Mike Earle Horton wrote: > > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. > > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the > time to evacuate and charge the system. > > Earle > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > > the only part you can't get to?????? > > > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > > > Klif, > > > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > > fixed. > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > Klif wrote: > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to > do > > > > this > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts > store, > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job > right. > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in > order > > > > to > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless > the > > > > system > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, > nudge, > > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth > the > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the > windows > > > > > but > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > > driving > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job > interview and > > > > > not > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > *** > > > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > > Klif > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one
that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty system filled up. There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major component change.... I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores, etc.... Bill's photo says it all.... Mike Earle Horton wrote: > > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. > > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the > time to evacuate and charge the system. > > Earle > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > > the only part you can't get to?????? > > > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > > > Klif, > > > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > > fixed. > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > Klif wrote: > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to > do > > > > this > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts > store, > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job > right. > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in > order > > > > to > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless > the > > > > system > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, > nudge, > > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth > the > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the > windows > > > > > but > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > > driving > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job > interview and > > > > > not > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > *** > > > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > > Klif > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
On most, you just have to drop the steering column loose from the dash.
It drops a bit and then the dash move enough to get behind it. If they have known since 93 their supplier is crap, well, a 'normal' person would change suppliers.... BUT wait, they can 'sucker' thousands of people to pay out a grand each to get it fixed, I guess that is good enough reason to stay with the same supplier eh? Mike Bob Casanova wrote: > > On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:45:52 -0400, the following appeared > in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain > <romainm@sympatico.ca>: > > >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > >the only part you can't get to?????? > > For a while CC had a problem with shoddy evap coils; they > tended to develop holes after a couple of years. My wife's > '93 Concorde went through 4 in 8 years (paid for by CC, > since they acknowledged the problem). I don't know if they > had the same problem across all lines, but it's certainly > possible. > > >I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > >'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > >usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > >area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > >I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > >to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > >thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > >And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > >find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > In the XJ it starts out with "Remove the dash" (I don't > recall if this also requires removing the steering assembly, > which gets into airbag/clockspring issues, and my manual is > packed away, and I don't know if the TJ has the same > requirements), since apparently no one seems to have gotten > the brilliant idea of putting it in a housing *ahead* of the > firewall for easy access. Not really complicated, but a good > 6-8 hours for a decent mechanic. > > >Mike > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > >HG97TJ wrote: > >> > >> Klif, > >> > >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > >> fixed. > >> > >> Howie > >> > >> Klif wrote: > >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > >> > this > >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > >> > > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > >> > to > >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > >> > system > >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > >> > > nudge.) > >> > > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > >> > > > >> > > Earle > >> > > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > >> > > but > >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > >> > driving > >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > >> > > not > >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > >> > > > TIA > >> > > > Klif > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > >> > > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > >> > Klif > -- > > Bob C. > > "Evidence confirming an observation is > evidence that the observation is wrong." > - McNameless |
Re: New AC evaporator install
On most, you just have to drop the steering column loose from the dash.
It drops a bit and then the dash move enough to get behind it. If they have known since 93 their supplier is crap, well, a 'normal' person would change suppliers.... BUT wait, they can 'sucker' thousands of people to pay out a grand each to get it fixed, I guess that is good enough reason to stay with the same supplier eh? Mike Bob Casanova wrote: > > On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:45:52 -0400, the following appeared > in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain > <romainm@sympatico.ca>: > > >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > >the only part you can't get to?????? > > For a while CC had a problem with shoddy evap coils; they > tended to develop holes after a couple of years. My wife's > '93 Concorde went through 4 in 8 years (paid for by CC, > since they acknowledged the problem). I don't know if they > had the same problem across all lines, but it's certainly > possible. > > >I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > >'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > >usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > >area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > >I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > >to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > >thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > >And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > >find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > In the XJ it starts out with "Remove the dash" (I don't > recall if this also requires removing the steering assembly, > which gets into airbag/clockspring issues, and my manual is > packed away, and I don't know if the TJ has the same > requirements), since apparently no one seems to have gotten > the brilliant idea of putting it in a housing *ahead* of the > firewall for easy access. Not really complicated, but a good > 6-8 hours for a decent mechanic. > > >Mike > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > >HG97TJ wrote: > >> > >> Klif, > >> > >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > >> fixed. > >> > >> Howie > >> > >> Klif wrote: > >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > >> > this > >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > >> > > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > >> > to > >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > >> > system > >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > >> > > nudge.) > >> > > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > >> > > > >> > > Earle > >> > > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > >> > > but > >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > >> > driving > >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > >> > > not > >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > >> > > > TIA > >> > > > Klif > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > >> > > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > >> > Klif > -- > > Bob C. > > "Evidence confirming an observation is > evidence that the observation is wrong." > - McNameless |
Re: New AC evaporator install
On most, you just have to drop the steering column loose from the dash.
It drops a bit and then the dash move enough to get behind it. If they have known since 93 their supplier is crap, well, a 'normal' person would change suppliers.... BUT wait, they can 'sucker' thousands of people to pay out a grand each to get it fixed, I guess that is good enough reason to stay with the same supplier eh? Mike Bob Casanova wrote: > > On Wed, 31 May 2006 09:45:52 -0400, the following appeared > in rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, posted by Mike Romain > <romainm@sympatico.ca>: > > >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > >the only part you can't get to?????? > > For a while CC had a problem with shoddy evap coils; they > tended to develop holes after a couple of years. My wife's > '93 Concorde went through 4 in 8 years (paid for by CC, > since they acknowledged the problem). I don't know if they > had the same problem across all lines, but it's certainly > possible. > > >I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > >'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > >usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > >area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > >I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > >to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > >thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > >And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > >find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > In the XJ it starts out with "Remove the dash" (I don't > recall if this also requires removing the steering assembly, > which gets into airbag/clockspring issues, and my manual is > packed away, and I don't know if the TJ has the same > requirements), since apparently no one seems to have gotten > the brilliant idea of putting it in a housing *ahead* of the > firewall for easy access. Not really complicated, but a good > 6-8 hours for a decent mechanic. > > >Mike > >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > >Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > >(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > >HG97TJ wrote: > >> > >> Klif, > >> > >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > >> fixed. > >> > >> Howie > >> > >> Klif wrote: > >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to do > >> > this > >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > >> > > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts store, > >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job right. > >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in order > >> > to > >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the > >> > system > >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, nudge, > >> > > nudge.) > >> > > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth the > >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > >> > > > >> > > Earle > >> > > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the windows > >> > > but > >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > >> > driving > >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview and > >> > > not > >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > >> > > > TIA > >> > > > Klif > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** > >> > > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > >> > Klif > -- > > Bob C. > > "Evidence confirming an observation is > evidence that the observation is wrong." > - McNameless |
Re: New AC evaporator install
A major component change lets water into the system, but a new dryer,
accumulator, or whatever they use in this system should take care of that. I like to pump the system down, and make sure it stays down for a few hours. But then I have a vacuum pump and a set of gauges, I live in the middle of nowhere, I am going for longest time possible between service, and I don't charge myself, to leave the vacuum on all night. If I were going to replace the evaporator myself, and then have a shop charge up the system, I would make darn sure I hadn't screwed anything up, before putting the dash together. This is the rub, I think. How do you plan to check for leaks, before you put the dash back together? This is not an unsolvable problem, but one worth looking at. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447DCDA7.7E1D1B38@sympatico.ca... > If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one > that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty > system filled up. > > There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major > component change.... > > I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores, > etc.... Bill's photo says it all.... > > Mike > > Earle Horton wrote: > > > > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a > > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator > > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, > > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. > > > > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace > > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the > > time to evacuate and charge the system. > > > > Earle > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > > > the only part you can't get to?????? > > > > > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > > > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > > > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > > > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > > > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > > > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > > > > > Klif, > > > > > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > > > fixed. > > > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > > > Klif wrote: > > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to > > do > > > > > this > > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts > > store, > > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job > > right. > > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in > > order > > > > > to > > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless > > the > > > > > system > > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, > > nudge, > > > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth > > the > > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the > > windows > > > > > > but > > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > > > driving > > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job > > interview and > > > > > > not > > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > *** > > > > > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > > > Klif > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
A major component change lets water into the system, but a new dryer,
accumulator, or whatever they use in this system should take care of that. I like to pump the system down, and make sure it stays down for a few hours. But then I have a vacuum pump and a set of gauges, I live in the middle of nowhere, I am going for longest time possible between service, and I don't charge myself, to leave the vacuum on all night. If I were going to replace the evaporator myself, and then have a shop charge up the system, I would make darn sure I hadn't screwed anything up, before putting the dash together. This is the rub, I think. How do you plan to check for leaks, before you put the dash back together? This is not an unsolvable problem, but one worth looking at. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447DCDA7.7E1D1B38@sympatico.ca... > If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one > that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty > system filled up. > > There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major > component change.... > > I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores, > etc.... Bill's photo says it all.... > > Mike > > Earle Horton wrote: > > > > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a > > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator > > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, > > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. > > > > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace > > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the > > time to evacuate and charge the system. > > > > Earle > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > > > the only part you can't get to?????? > > > > > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > > > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > > > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > > > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > > > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > > > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > > > > > Klif, > > > > > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > > > fixed. > > > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > > > Klif wrote: > > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to > > do > > > > > this > > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts > > store, > > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job > > right. > > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in > > order > > > > > to > > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless > > the > > > > > system > > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, > > nudge, > > > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth > > the > > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the > > windows > > > > > > but > > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > > > driving > > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job > > interview and > > > > > > not > > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > *** > > > > > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > > > Klif > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
A major component change lets water into the system, but a new dryer,
accumulator, or whatever they use in this system should take care of that. I like to pump the system down, and make sure it stays down for a few hours. But then I have a vacuum pump and a set of gauges, I live in the middle of nowhere, I am going for longest time possible between service, and I don't charge myself, to leave the vacuum on all night. If I were going to replace the evaporator myself, and then have a shop charge up the system, I would make darn sure I hadn't screwed anything up, before putting the dash together. This is the rub, I think. How do you plan to check for leaks, before you put the dash back together? This is not an unsolvable problem, but one worth looking at. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447DCDA7.7E1D1B38@sympatico.ca... > If the AC place didn't want my money to charge it up, I would find one > that did. It isn't really any of their business 'why' I want my empty > system filled up. > > There wouldn't be much 'evacuating' to do I wouldn't think after a major > component change.... > > I have been on the removing end of a few dashes for heater cores, > etc.... Bill's photo says it all.... > > Mike > > Earle Horton wrote: > > > > Good points Mike, but most people don't have a charging station, or even a > > vacuum pump and a set of gauges. Now you can replace the evaporator > > yourself, and take it to an AC service center to have the system charged, > > but I don't know how they would like taking on this job halfway through. > > > > I have to laugh at Bill's picture, when I think about the labor to replace > > the evaporator in my Honda Civic. Maybe half an hour, not including the > > time to evacuate and charge the system. > > > > Earle > > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message > > news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... > > > I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > > > the only part you can't get to?????? > > > > > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > > > > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > > > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > > > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > > > > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > > > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > > > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > > > > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > > > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > > > > > Mike > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > > > > > > HG97TJ wrote: > > > > > > > > Klif, > > > > > > > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > > > > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > > > > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > > > > fixed. > > > > > > > > Howie > > > > > > > > Klif wrote: > > > > > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . > > > > > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to > > do > > > > > this > > > > > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) > > > > > > > > > > > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts > > store, > > > > > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job > > right. > > > > > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in > > order > > > > > to > > > > > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless > > the > > > > > system > > > > > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, > > nudge, > > > > > > nudge.) > > > > > > > > > > > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth > > the > > > > > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. > > > > > > > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > > > > > > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message > > > > > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... > > > > > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. > > > > > > > I have moderate wrench skills. > > > > > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the > > windows > > > > > > but > > > > > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up > > > > > driving > > > > > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job > > interview and > > > > > > not > > > > > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > Klif > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > *** > > > > > > > > > > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. > > > > > Klif > > > > -- > > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Sounds like an excuse to stop by the beach:
http://www.camzone.com/index.php?cam=scripps God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ HG97TJ wrote: > > Klif, > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > fixed. > > Howie |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Sounds like an excuse to stop by the beach:
http://www.camzone.com/index.php?cam=scripps God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ HG97TJ wrote: > > Klif, > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > fixed. > > Howie |
Re: New AC evaporator install
Sounds like an excuse to stop by the beach:
http://www.camzone.com/index.php?cam=scripps God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ HG97TJ wrote: > > Klif, > > I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted > at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll > see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it > fixed. > > Howie |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > the only part you can't get to?????? > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > HG97TJ wrote: >> >> Klif, >> >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it >> fixed. >> >> Howie >> >> Klif wrote: >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to >> > > do >> > this >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) >> > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts >> > > store, >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job >> > > right. >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in >> > > order >> > to >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the >> > system >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, >> > > nudge, >> > > nudge.) >> > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth >> > > the >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the >> > > > windows >> > > but >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up >> > driving >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview >> > > > and >> > > not >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara >> > > > TIA >> > > > Klif >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** >> > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. >> > Klif For $200.00 the stealer put a blue dye in the system to help locate the leak.....when I brought it back 1 week later. Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > the only part you can't get to?????? > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > HG97TJ wrote: >> >> Klif, >> >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it >> fixed. >> >> Howie >> >> Klif wrote: >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to >> > > do >> > this >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) >> > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts >> > > store, >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job >> > > right. >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in >> > > order >> > to >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the >> > system >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, >> > > nudge, >> > > nudge.) >> > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth >> > > the >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the >> > > > windows >> > > but >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up >> > driving >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview >> > > > and >> > > not >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara >> > > > TIA >> > > > Klif >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** >> > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. >> > Klif For $200.00 the stealer put a blue dye in the system to help locate the leak.....when I brought it back 1 week later. Klif |
Re: New AC evaporator install
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:447D9E10.A9E82666@sympatico.ca... >I am 'really' curious about something. How can all these 'leaks' be on > the only part you can't get to?????? > > I mean who diagnosed it and how was it diagnosed? > > 'Normally' leaks happen at fittings. Fittings on parts that move are > usually the first suspect, which means parts vibrating around the engine > area. Nothing moves under the dash..... > > I would 'sure' want to see proof before I forked out $500.00 to $1000.00 > to a "$tealership" of all people. Yes, I have run into 'WAY' more > thieves at $tealerships than honest people by far. Way more..... > > And for that kind of money, I would gladly read the repair manual to > find out how to do it. It isn't hard, just labor intensive. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > HG97TJ wrote: >> >> Klif, >> >> I have the same AC leak (evaporator) in my 97 TJ Sport and was qouted >> at around $550-$600 for the repair which I have not done yet. We'll >> see how long I can survive the PA summer without AC before I get it >> fixed. >> >> Howie >> >> Klif wrote: >> > "Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message >> > news:447cd76b$0$24268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. . >> > > Get another estimate. You do not really have to be EPA certified to >> > > do >> > this >> > > job, but you should have a clue. ;^) >> > > >> > > You can buy R134a and hoses to charge your system at any auto parts >> > > store, >> > > but you really, really need a vacuum pump and a scale to do the job >> > > right. >> > > R134a systems want to have the correct quantity of refrigerant, in >> > > order >> > to >> > > work properly. Charging station? Theoretically required, unless the >> > system >> > > had already leaked down before you initiated repairs. (Wink, wink, >> > > nudge, >> > > nudge.) >> > > >> > > Good place to start, www.acsource.com. For one job, it is not worth >> > > the >> > > cost of the tools and supplies. I had two jobs to do. >> > > >> > > Earle >> > > >> > > "Klif" <ckbiker@hotmail.comPOSER> wrote in message >> > > news:qh0fg.11888$U_2.1871@trnddc05... >> > > > How difficult is this to replace. The OE one leaks. >> > > > I have moderate wrench skills. >> > > > The stealer wants over $1000.00.....I usually just roll down the >> > > > windows >> > > but >> > > > sometimes the AC would be nice, especially when I'm all suited up >> > driving >> > > > downtown on a sweltering summers afternoon going to a job interview >> > > > and >> > > not >> > > > look like a sweat hog in heat. '97 TJ Sahara >> > > > TIA >> > > > Klif >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** >> > >> > Thx for the USEFUL info Earle. >> > Klif For $200.00 the stealer put a blue dye in the system to help locate the leak.....when I brought it back 1 week later. Klif |
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