Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Michael Rosen wrote:
> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive?
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?

Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
been disappointed with that decision.

I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
decision I've ever made.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:iIadnSldiOh9hNHYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I think I'm now deciding
>> between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
>> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
>> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
>> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
>> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
>> locally.
>>
>> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
>> What is the general consensus?
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple hundred
> extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never been
> disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

We bought two twin Jeep Grand Cherokees. They came with Goodyear tires
which lasted 20K miles. I asked the Jeep dealer and he whispered Michelin
LTX. I bought some for mine, spent the next few years commuting from Dallas
to Sacramento (desert heat, mountains, Tehachapi pass, Kingsford Grade, Echo
Summit, every different way you can map, went through the Rocky Mountains
National Park 13K feet, Saltan Sea -100 feet, whatever) They were rated for
80K miles and still had good tread at over 90K miles. We retired to the
Sierra Nevada, 4WD Low, getting out of the canyon - no prob. I got new ones
just to be on the safe side, though I 'm sure they would have been good for
100K miles. I know that the only thing holding the car to the road is the
tires, and I never skimp on the tires. Six years later and the wife's Jeep
is just now just getting to 80K miles. I check them monthly, keep the
pressure to 40PSI (that's just my thing) and they look as good as halfway
new. I have never seen such performance, and I'm 68 and have owned a few
cars. I checked four places and the cheapest (same tires) was at Wal-Mart.
They do not seem to issue a paper warranty however, hmmmm, but I already
know the tires will last.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:iIadnSldiOh9hNHYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I think I'm now deciding
>> between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
>> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
>> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
>> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
>> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
>> locally.
>>
>> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
>> What is the general consensus?
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple hundred
> extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never been
> disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

We bought two twin Jeep Grand Cherokees. They came with Goodyear tires
which lasted 20K miles. I asked the Jeep dealer and he whispered Michelin
LTX. I bought some for mine, spent the next few years commuting from Dallas
to Sacramento (desert heat, mountains, Tehachapi pass, Kingsford Grade, Echo
Summit, every different way you can map, went through the Rocky Mountains
National Park 13K feet, Saltan Sea -100 feet, whatever) They were rated for
80K miles and still had good tread at over 90K miles. We retired to the
Sierra Nevada, 4WD Low, getting out of the canyon - no prob. I got new ones
just to be on the safe side, though I 'm sure they would have been good for
100K miles. I know that the only thing holding the car to the road is the
tires, and I never skimp on the tires. Six years later and the wife's Jeep
is just now just getting to 80K miles. I check them monthly, keep the
pressure to 40PSI (that's just my thing) and they look as good as halfway
new. I have never seen such performance, and I'm 68 and have owned a few
cars. I checked four places and the cheapest (same tires) was at Wal-Mart.
They do not seem to issue a paper warranty however, hmmmm, but I already
know the tires will last.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:iIadnSldiOh9hNHYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I think I'm now deciding
>> between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
>> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
>> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
>> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
>> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
>> locally.
>>
>> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
>> What is the general consensus?
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple hundred
> extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never been
> disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

We bought two twin Jeep Grand Cherokees. They came with Goodyear tires
which lasted 20K miles. I asked the Jeep dealer and he whispered Michelin
LTX. I bought some for mine, spent the next few years commuting from Dallas
to Sacramento (desert heat, mountains, Tehachapi pass, Kingsford Grade, Echo
Summit, every different way you can map, went through the Rocky Mountains
National Park 13K feet, Saltan Sea -100 feet, whatever) They were rated for
80K miles and still had good tread at over 90K miles. We retired to the
Sierra Nevada, 4WD Low, getting out of the canyon - no prob. I got new ones
just to be on the safe side, though I 'm sure they would have been good for
100K miles. I know that the only thing holding the car to the road is the
tires, and I never skimp on the tires. Six years later and the wife's Jeep
is just now just getting to 80K miles. I check them monthly, keep the
pressure to 40PSI (that's just my thing) and they look as good as halfway
new. I have never seen such performance, and I'm 68 and have owned a few
cars. I checked four places and the cheapest (same tires) was at Wal-Mart.
They do not seem to issue a paper warranty however, hmmmm, but I already
know the tires will last.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Consumer Reports didn't think too much about the BFGs in their last test,
the Firestones were about halfway down the ratings page.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...tires11-04.jpg

I have a set of Kumho Venture AT-825s that have served me well through 2
Ohio summers and 1 winter with absolutely no problems.. They did okay in
Canadian mud on two camping trips.....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162614596.196531.242830@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
> good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
> shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
> charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.
>
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Outatime wrote:
>> Michael Rosen wrote:
>>
>> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> > the same price.
>>
>> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
>> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
>> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Consumer Reports didn't think too much about the BFGs in their last test,
the Firestones were about halfway down the ratings page.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...tires11-04.jpg

I have a set of Kumho Venture AT-825s that have served me well through 2
Ohio summers and 1 winter with absolutely no problems.. They did okay in
Canadian mud on two camping trips.....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162614596.196531.242830@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
> good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
> shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
> charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.
>
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Outatime wrote:
>> Michael Rosen wrote:
>>
>> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> > the same price.
>>
>> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
>> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
>> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Consumer Reports didn't think too much about the BFGs in their last test,
the Firestones were about halfway down the ratings page.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...tires11-04.jpg

I have a set of Kumho Venture AT-825s that have served me well through 2
Ohio summers and 1 winter with absolutely no problems.. They did okay in
Canadian mud on two camping trips.....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162614596.196531.242830@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
> good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
> shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
> charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.
>
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Outatime wrote:
>> Michael Rosen wrote:
>>
>> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> > the same price.
>>
>> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
>> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
>> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime wrote:
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
> hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
> been disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

Does Costco have more than they show on their website? When I search
for tire for my car only the BFG Longtrail comes up. I'll have to stop
by in person and see what they've got.

The LTX also don't show up when I do a search on tirerack.com. Is it
because I am sticking to the original equipment size? I have been
figuring I should be sticking to the standard 225/75-16 size. The
optional size is 245/70-16.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime wrote:
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
> hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
> been disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

Does Costco have more than they show on their website? When I search
for tire for my car only the BFG Longtrail comes up. I'll have to stop
by in person and see what they've got.

The LTX also don't show up when I do a search on tirerack.com. Is it
because I am sticking to the original equipment size? I have been
figuring I should be sticking to the standard 225/75-16 size. The
optional size is 245/70-16.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime wrote:
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
> hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
> been disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

Does Costco have more than they show on their website? When I search
for tire for my car only the BFG Longtrail comes up. I'll have to stop
by in person and see what they've got.

The LTX also don't show up when I do a search on tirerack.com. Is it
because I am sticking to the original equipment size? I have been
figuring I should be sticking to the standard 225/75-16 size. The
optional size is 245/70-16.

Thanks,
Mike