Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
same exact tire.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Have you actually looked at the spare. On our '99 I believe it is a temp,
yet full sized tire. BTW, we put Nokian Vativva (sp?) on after the Wrangler
POS tires. They were put on at about 30k, still on the vehicle, but need to
be replaced before the snow flies, at 110,000 miles.

Cheers,
Howard

"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Have you actually looked at the spare. On our '99 I believe it is a temp,
yet full sized tire. BTW, we put Nokian Vativva (sp?) on after the Wrangler
POS tires. They were put on at about 30k, still on the vehicle, but need to
be replaced before the snow flies, at 110,000 miles.

Cheers,
Howard

"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Have you actually looked at the spare. On our '99 I believe it is a temp,
yet full sized tire. BTW, we put Nokian Vativva (sp?) on after the Wrangler
POS tires. They were put on at about 30k, still on the vehicle, but need to
be replaced before the snow flies, at 110,000 miles.

Cheers,
Howard

"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Mike,

You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
overpriced poor quality tires.

That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.

I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...

As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't be
less....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Mike,

You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
overpriced poor quality tires.

That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.

I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...

As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't be
less....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Mike,

You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
overpriced poor quality tires.

That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.

I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...

As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't be
less....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Yes, the spare is a full size tire.

So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
the same price.

Thanks,
Mike

billy ray wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
> overpriced poor quality tires.
>
> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>
> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...
>
> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't be
> less....
>
>
> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> > same exact tire.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Yes, the spare is a full size tire.

So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
the same price.

Thanks,
Mike

billy ray wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
> overpriced poor quality tires.
>
> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>
> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...
>
> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't be
> less....
>
>
> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> > same exact tire.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Yes, the spare is a full size tire.

So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
the same price.

Thanks,
Mike

billy ray wrote:
> Mike,
>
> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
> overpriced poor quality tires.
>
> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>
> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...
>
> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't be
> less....
>
>
> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> > same exact tire.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Pretty much any tire you can find will be superior to the Wrangler ST. It
is Goodyear's low bid factory tire.

While I am not a big fan of NTB they do offer lesser
known brands. Are you a 'brand name only' person?

Are you limited to the locations where you can purchase tires?

"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162393578.165682.228140@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Yes, the spare is a full size tire.
>
> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> the same price.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
>> overpriced poor quality tires.
>>
>> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
>> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>>
>> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...
>>
>> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't
>> be
>> less....
>>
>>
>> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
>> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
>> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
>> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
>> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
>> > same exact tire.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike
>> >
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Pretty much any tire you can find will be superior to the Wrangler ST. It
is Goodyear's low bid factory tire.

While I am not a big fan of NTB they do offer lesser
known brands. Are you a 'brand name only' person?

Are you limited to the locations where you can purchase tires?

"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162393578.165682.228140@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Yes, the spare is a full size tire.
>
> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> the same price.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
>> overpriced poor quality tires.
>>
>> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
>> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>>
>> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...
>>
>> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't
>> be
>> less....
>>
>>
>> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
>> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
>> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
>> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
>> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
>> > same exact tire.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike
>> >
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Pretty much any tire you can find will be superior to the Wrangler ST. It
is Goodyear's low bid factory tire.

While I am not a big fan of NTB they do offer lesser
known brands. Are you a 'brand name only' person?

Are you limited to the locations where you can purchase tires?

"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162393578.165682.228140@k70g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Yes, the spare is a full size tire.
>
> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> the same price.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> Mike,
>>
>> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
>> overpriced poor quality tires.
>>
>> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
>> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>>
>> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...
>>
>> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't
>> be
>> less....
>>
>>
>> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
>> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
>> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
>> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
>> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
>> > same exact tire.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mike
>> >
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

the biggest thing is the tires measuring the same diameter since one
smaller tire can screw up the 4 wheel drive

Michael Rosen wrote:

> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

the biggest thing is the tires measuring the same diameter since one
smaller tire can screw up the 4 wheel drive

Michael Rosen wrote:

> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

the biggest thing is the tires measuring the same diameter since one
smaller tire can screw up the 4 wheel drive

Michael Rosen wrote:

> My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> same exact tire.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Michael Rosen wrote:

> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> the same price.

Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Michael Rosen wrote:

> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> the same price.

Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Michael Rosen wrote:

> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> the same price.

Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:3b85a$4548a0dd$422afc51$20376@FUSE.NET...
> Mike,
>
> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
> overpriced poor quality tires.
>
> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>
> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...

Never got notified of this......hmmm...will check it out. Pretty sure we
have a temp tire for the spare on our '99
Thx,hdd

>
> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't
be
> less....
>
>
> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> > same exact tire.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
>
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:3b85a$4548a0dd$422afc51$20376@FUSE.NET...
> Mike,
>
> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
> overpriced poor quality tires.
>
> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>
> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...

Never got notified of this......hmmm...will check it out. Pretty sure we
have a temp tire for the spare on our '99
Thx,hdd

>
> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't
be
> less....
>
>
> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> > same exact tire.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
>
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:3b85a$4548a0dd$422afc51$20376@FUSE.NET...
> Mike,
>
> You may well save money by buying 4 better tires than buying 3 additional
> overpriced poor quality tires.
>
> That being said you can probably pick up 3 additional brand new spare
> Wrangler STs at the junkyard for a good price.
>
> I thought they recalled the '99s to add a real spare...

Never got notified of this......hmmm...will check it out. Pretty sure we
have a temp tire for the spare on our '99
Thx,hdd

>
> As long as your load rating is at least 104 you are fine, just shouldn't
be
> less....
>
>
> "Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162384650.844875.275350@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > My 2002 Grand Cherokee needs new tires and a mechanic recommended I
> > could save some money by using my spare and buying three new matching
> > tires. The load index on my old tires is 104S and I noticed all of the
> > new ones are 106S. Is there a problem mixing load indexes? My current
> > tires are Wrangler ST's. I understand if I do this I have to get the
> > same exact tire.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> >
>
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime proclaimed:

> Michael Rosen wrote:
>
>> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> the same price.
>
>
> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

The Michelin LTX M+S is a reasonably good compromise for good highway
manners with light duty offroad where you don't need to worry about
sidewall damage. Impossible to hurt them thru the tread steel plies.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime proclaimed:

> Michael Rosen wrote:
>
>> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> the same price.
>
>
> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

The Michelin LTX M+S is a reasonably good compromise for good highway
manners with light duty offroad where you don't need to worry about
sidewall damage. Impossible to hurt them thru the tread steel plies.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime proclaimed:

> Michael Rosen wrote:
>
>> So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> the same price.
>
>
> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

The Michelin LTX M+S is a reasonably good compromise for good highway
manners with light duty offroad where you don't need to worry about
sidewall damage. Impossible to hurt them thru the tread steel plies.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.

I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
locally.

The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
What is the general consensus?

Thanks,
Mike

Outatime wrote:
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>
> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> > the same price.
>
> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.

I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
locally.

The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
What is the general consensus?

Thanks,
Mike

Outatime wrote:
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>
> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> > the same price.
>
> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.

I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
locally.

The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
What is the general consensus?

Thanks,
Mike

Outatime wrote:
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>
> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
> > the same price.
>
> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Michael Rosen wrote:
> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive?
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?

Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
been disappointed with that decision.

I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
decision I've ever made.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Michael Rosen wrote:
> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive?
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?

Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
been disappointed with that decision.

I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
decision I've ever made.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Michael Rosen wrote:
> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive?
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?

Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
been disappointed with that decision.

I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
decision I've ever made.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:iIadnSldiOh9hNHYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I think I'm now deciding
>> between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
>> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
>> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
>> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
>> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
>> locally.
>>
>> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
>> What is the general consensus?
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple hundred
> extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never been
> disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

We bought two twin Jeep Grand Cherokees. They came with Goodyear tires
which lasted 20K miles. I asked the Jeep dealer and he whispered Michelin
LTX. I bought some for mine, spent the next few years commuting from Dallas
to Sacramento (desert heat, mountains, Tehachapi pass, Kingsford Grade, Echo
Summit, every different way you can map, went through the Rocky Mountains
National Park 13K feet, Saltan Sea -100 feet, whatever) They were rated for
80K miles and still had good tread at over 90K miles. We retired to the
Sierra Nevada, 4WD Low, getting out of the canyon - no prob. I got new ones
just to be on the safe side, though I 'm sure they would have been good for
100K miles. I know that the only thing holding the car to the road is the
tires, and I never skimp on the tires. Six years later and the wife's Jeep
is just now just getting to 80K miles. I check them monthly, keep the
pressure to 40PSI (that's just my thing) and they look as good as halfway
new. I have never seen such performance, and I'm 68 and have owned a few
cars. I checked four places and the cheapest (same tires) was at Wal-Mart.
They do not seem to issue a paper warranty however, hmmmm, but I already
know the tires will last.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:iIadnSldiOh9hNHYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I think I'm now deciding
>> between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
>> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
>> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
>> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
>> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
>> locally.
>>
>> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
>> What is the general consensus?
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple hundred
> extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never been
> disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

We bought two twin Jeep Grand Cherokees. They came with Goodyear tires
which lasted 20K miles. I asked the Jeep dealer and he whispered Michelin
LTX. I bought some for mine, spent the next few years commuting from Dallas
to Sacramento (desert heat, mountains, Tehachapi pass, Kingsford Grade, Echo
Summit, every different way you can map, went through the Rocky Mountains
National Park 13K feet, Saltan Sea -100 feet, whatever) They were rated for
80K miles and still had good tread at over 90K miles. We retired to the
Sierra Nevada, 4WD Low, getting out of the canyon - no prob. I got new ones
just to be on the safe side, though I 'm sure they would have been good for
100K miles. I know that the only thing holding the car to the road is the
tires, and I never skimp on the tires. Six years later and the wife's Jeep
is just now just getting to 80K miles. I check them monthly, keep the
pressure to 40PSI (that's just my thing) and they look as good as halfway
new. I have never seen such performance, and I'm 68 and have owned a few
cars. I checked four places and the cheapest (same tires) was at Wal-Mart.
They do not seem to issue a paper warranty however, hmmmm, but I already
know the tires will last.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

"Outatime" <WhoKnows@here.com> wrote in message
news:iIadnSldiOh9hNHYnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@softcom.net. ..
> Michael Rosen wrote:
>> I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I think I'm now deciding
>> between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
>> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
>> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
>> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
>> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
>> locally.
>>
>> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
>> What is the general consensus?
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple hundred
> extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never been
> disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

We bought two twin Jeep Grand Cherokees. They came with Goodyear tires
which lasted 20K miles. I asked the Jeep dealer and he whispered Michelin
LTX. I bought some for mine, spent the next few years commuting from Dallas
to Sacramento (desert heat, mountains, Tehachapi pass, Kingsford Grade, Echo
Summit, every different way you can map, went through the Rocky Mountains
National Park 13K feet, Saltan Sea -100 feet, whatever) They were rated for
80K miles and still had good tread at over 90K miles. We retired to the
Sierra Nevada, 4WD Low, getting out of the canyon - no prob. I got new ones
just to be on the safe side, though I 'm sure they would have been good for
100K miles. I know that the only thing holding the car to the road is the
tires, and I never skimp on the tires. Six years later and the wife's Jeep
is just now just getting to 80K miles. I check them monthly, keep the
pressure to 40PSI (that's just my thing) and they look as good as halfway
new. I have never seen such performance, and I'm 68 and have owned a few
cars. I checked four places and the cheapest (same tires) was at Wal-Mart.
They do not seem to issue a paper warranty however, hmmmm, but I already
know the tires will last.

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Consumer Reports didn't think too much about the BFGs in their last test,
the Firestones were about halfway down the ratings page.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...tires11-04.jpg

I have a set of Kumho Venture AT-825s that have served me well through 2
Ohio summers and 1 winter with absolutely no problems.. They did okay in
Canadian mud on two camping trips.....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162614596.196531.242830@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
> good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
> shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
> charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.
>
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Outatime wrote:
>> Michael Rosen wrote:
>>
>> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> > the same price.
>>
>> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
>> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
>> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Consumer Reports didn't think too much about the BFGs in their last test,
the Firestones were about halfway down the ratings page.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...tires11-04.jpg

I have a set of Kumho Venture AT-825s that have served me well through 2
Ohio summers and 1 winter with absolutely no problems.. They did okay in
Canadian mud on two camping trips.....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162614596.196531.242830@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
> good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
> shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
> charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.
>
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Outatime wrote:
>> Michael Rosen wrote:
>>
>> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> > the same price.
>>
>> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
>> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
>> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Consumer Reports didn't think too much about the BFGs in their last test,
the Firestones were about halfway down the ratings page.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n...tires11-04.jpg

I have a set of Kumho Venture AT-825s that have served me well through 2
Ohio summers and 1 winter with absolutely no problems.. They did okay in
Canadian mud on two camping trips.....


"Michael Rosen" <mrosen@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162614596.196531.242830@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I believe the Michelins are pretty expensive? I'm trying to find a
> good quality tire but at an affordable price. I was referred to a tire
> shop who will allow me to drop ship tires to him and he will only
> charge me $10 per tire to mount and balance them.
>
> I think I'm now deciding between the BFGoodrich Radial Long Trail T/A
> and Firestone Destination LE. Tirerack.com has them for $87 and $81,
> respectively. I can get the BFGoodrich at the local shop for $106
> installed and the Firestone for $86. Depending on which tire I go
> with, factoring in shipping one of them would end up cheaper buying
> locally.
>
> The Firestone seems to have good reviews and slightly better ratings.
> What is the general consensus?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Outatime wrote:
>> Michael Rosen wrote:
>>
>> > So, the consensus is that the Wrangler ST is a poor quality tire?
>> > Costco has BF Goodrich for $135.99. NTB has the Wrangler ST for about
>> > the same price.
>>
>> Anything 'Goodyear' is junk in my opinion. The guys who did my tires at
>> Costco affirm this. While you're over there, check out Michelin LTX
>> series instead - best tire I've ever put on a mostly-street-driven 4X4.
>

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime wrote:
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
> hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
> been disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

Does Costco have more than they show on their website? When I search
for tire for my car only the BFG Longtrail comes up. I'll have to stop
by in person and see what they've got.

The LTX also don't show up when I do a search on tirerack.com. Is it
because I am sticking to the original equipment size? I have been
figuring I should be sticking to the standard 225/75-16 size. The
optional size is 245/70-16.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime wrote:
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
> hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
> been disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

Does Costco have more than they show on their website? When I search
for tire for my car only the BFG Longtrail comes up. I'll have to stop
by in person and see what they've got.

The LTX also don't show up when I do a search on tirerack.com. Is it
because I am sticking to the original equipment size? I have been
figuring I should be sticking to the standard 225/75-16 size. The
optional size is 245/70-16.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Need new tires for 2002 Grand Cherokee Laredo
 

Outatime wrote:
>
> Ya get what ya pay for. I lothe cheap tires. I'll spend a couple
> hundred extra for the best tires I can find every time, and I've never
> been disappointed with that decision.
>
> I did get a deal on the Michelins through Costco though. I always wait
> until they're on sale and use the $100-off coupon. I dumped those awful
> Goodyear things with only 113 miles on them when I bought the TJL. Best
> decision I've ever made.

Does Costco have more than they show on their website? When I search
for tire for my car only the BFG Longtrail comes up. I'll have to stop
by in person and see what they've got.

The LTX also don't show up when I do a search on tirerack.com. Is it
because I am sticking to the original equipment size? I have been
figuring I should be sticking to the standard 225/75-16 size. The
optional size is 245/70-16.

Thanks,
Mike