Need help with T-150 Tranny Popping Out of 2nd
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Re: Need help with T-150 Tranny Popping Out of 2nd
I know, but why lose hope??? ;-)
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Dreamer.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> GK wrote:
> >
> > I took the shifter assembly off again to have another look. It appears
that
> > one of the small parts inserts from the 1st/2nd synchronizer hub is
missing.
> > According to my rebuild manual there should be 3 inserts per synchro. I
> > guess I missed it the first time and I have no idea if it's in the
bottom of
> > the case or was never put in. Probably the latter. Luckily, the whole
"small
> > parts" kit for the T-150 is around $35 from 4WD Hardware. Now I wonder
if I
> > can actually install it myself without a full disassembly??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > GK
> >
> > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:V%o3b.2623$eG2.262597@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> > > I have a 79 CJ-5 with 304 and T-150. Tranny was just completely
rebuilt,
> > all
> > > gears. I have replaced tranny mount, torque-arm bushing, and motor
mounts
> > > with new poly ones. I also rebuilt the shifter myself with new spring,
> > > retaining pins, etc. and completely replaced and adjusted the clutch
> > > bell-crank linkage.. The shifter is not hitting any part of the body
in
> > any
> > > gear. The belly pan is secure as well. Upon driving, all is smooth
except
> > in
> > > second gear. The shift seems a little short into second compared to
all
> > the
> > > other gears. When driving in second, I can hold the shifter in gear
and
> > feel
> > > a pop through the shifter right around the same RPM range every time.
If I
> > > was not holding it in, it would come out of gear. I does not seem to
like
> > > cornering in second gear very much either. I inspected the shifter
> > assembly
> > > and both shift forks look to be in good shape except for a minimal
amount
> > of
> > > wear from years of driving and they don't bind on anything that I can
see.
> > > The shift fork for second gear does have an extremely minute amount of
> > play
> > > on the shift rail compared to the other fork, but it does not seem too
out
> > > of whack. Also, I drained the crud gear oil out that the mechanic put
in
> > it
> > > and replaced it with Mobile 1 75W-90 GL-5. That really helped smooth
> > things
> > > out a bit, but did not solve the second gear issue.
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I cannot simply take it back to
the
> > > guy who overhauled the tranny because that was done several months
back by
> > > the previous owner. Also, if I have to take this into a shop, what
kind of
> > > $$$$$ should I expect?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > GK
> > >
> > >
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F4F8C18.C81D9DF2@***.net...
> Dreamer.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> GK wrote:
> >
> > I took the shifter assembly off again to have another look. It appears
that
> > one of the small parts inserts from the 1st/2nd synchronizer hub is
missing.
> > According to my rebuild manual there should be 3 inserts per synchro. I
> > guess I missed it the first time and I have no idea if it's in the
bottom of
> > the case or was never put in. Probably the latter. Luckily, the whole
"small
> > parts" kit for the T-150 is around $35 from 4WD Hardware. Now I wonder
if I
> > can actually install it myself without a full disassembly??
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > GK
> >
> > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:V%o3b.2623$eG2.262597@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> > > I have a 79 CJ-5 with 304 and T-150. Tranny was just completely
rebuilt,
> > all
> > > gears. I have replaced tranny mount, torque-arm bushing, and motor
mounts
> > > with new poly ones. I also rebuilt the shifter myself with new spring,
> > > retaining pins, etc. and completely replaced and adjusted the clutch
> > > bell-crank linkage.. The shifter is not hitting any part of the body
in
> > any
> > > gear. The belly pan is secure as well. Upon driving, all is smooth
except
> > in
> > > second gear. The shift seems a little short into second compared to
all
> > the
> > > other gears. When driving in second, I can hold the shifter in gear
and
> > feel
> > > a pop through the shifter right around the same RPM range every time.
If I
> > > was not holding it in, it would come out of gear. I does not seem to
like
> > > cornering in second gear very much either. I inspected the shifter
> > assembly
> > > and both shift forks look to be in good shape except for a minimal
amount
> > of
> > > wear from years of driving and they don't bind on anything that I can
see.
> > > The shift fork for second gear does have an extremely minute amount of
> > play
> > > on the shift rail compared to the other fork, but it does not seem too
out
> > > of whack. Also, I drained the crud gear oil out that the mechanic put
in
> > it
> > > and replaced it with Mobile 1 75W-90 GL-5. That really helped smooth
> > things
> > > out a bit, but did not solve the second gear issue.
> > >
> > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I cannot simply take it back to
the
> > > guy who overhauled the tranny because that was done several months
back by
> > > the previous owner. Also, if I have to take this into a shop, what
kind of
> > > $$$$$ should I expect?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > GK
> > >
> > >
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Re: Need help with T-150 Tranny Popping Out of 2nd
I might as well start sharpening up the old check book. :)
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkv9h1oier9qe3@corp.supernews.com...
> I know, but why lose hope??? ;-)
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F4F8C18.C81D9DF2@***.net...
> > Dreamer.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > GK wrote:
> > >
> > > I took the shifter assembly off again to have another look. It appears
> that
> > > one of the small parts inserts from the 1st/2nd synchronizer hub is
> missing.
> > > According to my rebuild manual there should be 3 inserts per synchro.
I
> > > guess I missed it the first time and I have no idea if it's in the
> bottom of
> > > the case or was never put in. Probably the latter. Luckily, the whole
> "small
> > > parts" kit for the T-150 is around $35 from 4WD Hardware. Now I wonder
> if I
> > > can actually install it myself without a full disassembly??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > GK
> > >
> > > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:V%o3b.2623$eG2.262597@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> > > > I have a 79 CJ-5 with 304 and T-150. Tranny was just completely
> rebuilt,
> > > all
> > > > gears. I have replaced tranny mount, torque-arm bushing, and motor
> mounts
> > > > with new poly ones. I also rebuilt the shifter myself with new
spring,
> > > > retaining pins, etc. and completely replaced and adjusted the clutch
> > > > bell-crank linkage.. The shifter is not hitting any part of the body
> in
> > > any
> > > > gear. The belly pan is secure as well. Upon driving, all is smooth
> except
> > > in
> > > > second gear. The shift seems a little short into second compared to
> all
> > > the
> > > > other gears. When driving in second, I can hold the shifter in gear
> and
> > > feel
> > > > a pop through the shifter right around the same RPM range every
time.
> If I
> > > > was not holding it in, it would come out of gear. I does not seem to
> like
> > > > cornering in second gear very much either. I inspected the shifter
> > > assembly
> > > > and both shift forks look to be in good shape except for a minimal
> amount
> > > of
> > > > wear from years of driving and they don't bind on anything that I
can
> see.
> > > > The shift fork for second gear does have an extremely minute amount
of
> > > play
> > > > on the shift rail compared to the other fork, but it does not seem
too
> out
> > > > of whack. Also, I drained the crud gear oil out that the mechanic
put
> in
> > > it
> > > > and replaced it with Mobile 1 75W-90 GL-5. That really helped smooth
> > > things
> > > > out a bit, but did not solve the second gear issue.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I cannot simply take it back
to
> the
> > > > guy who overhauled the tranny because that was done several months
> back by
> > > > the previous owner. Also, if I have to take this into a shop, what
> kind of
> > > > $$$$$ should I expect?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > GK
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkv9h1oier9qe3@corp.supernews.com...
> I know, but why lose hope??? ;-)
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F4F8C18.C81D9DF2@***.net...
> > Dreamer.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > GK wrote:
> > >
> > > I took the shifter assembly off again to have another look. It appears
> that
> > > one of the small parts inserts from the 1st/2nd synchronizer hub is
> missing.
> > > According to my rebuild manual there should be 3 inserts per synchro.
I
> > > guess I missed it the first time and I have no idea if it's in the
> bottom of
> > > the case or was never put in. Probably the latter. Luckily, the whole
> "small
> > > parts" kit for the T-150 is around $35 from 4WD Hardware. Now I wonder
> if I
> > > can actually install it myself without a full disassembly??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > GK
> > >
> > > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:V%o3b.2623$eG2.262597@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> > > > I have a 79 CJ-5 with 304 and T-150. Tranny was just completely
> rebuilt,
> > > all
> > > > gears. I have replaced tranny mount, torque-arm bushing, and motor
> mounts
> > > > with new poly ones. I also rebuilt the shifter myself with new
spring,
> > > > retaining pins, etc. and completely replaced and adjusted the clutch
> > > > bell-crank linkage.. The shifter is not hitting any part of the body
> in
> > > any
> > > > gear. The belly pan is secure as well. Upon driving, all is smooth
> except
> > > in
> > > > second gear. The shift seems a little short into second compared to
> all
> > > the
> > > > other gears. When driving in second, I can hold the shifter in gear
> and
> > > feel
> > > > a pop through the shifter right around the same RPM range every
time.
> If I
> > > > was not holding it in, it would come out of gear. I does not seem to
> like
> > > > cornering in second gear very much either. I inspected the shifter
> > > assembly
> > > > and both shift forks look to be in good shape except for a minimal
> amount
> > > of
> > > > wear from years of driving and they don't bind on anything that I
can
> see.
> > > > The shift fork for second gear does have an extremely minute amount
of
> > > play
> > > > on the shift rail compared to the other fork, but it does not seem
too
> out
> > > > of whack. Also, I drained the crud gear oil out that the mechanic
put
> in
> > > it
> > > > and replaced it with Mobile 1 75W-90 GL-5. That really helped smooth
> > > things
> > > > out a bit, but did not solve the second gear issue.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I cannot simply take it back
to
> the
> > > > guy who overhauled the tranny because that was done several months
> back by
> > > > the previous owner. Also, if I have to take this into a shop, what
> kind of
> > > > $$$$$ should I expect?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > GK
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
#13
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Re: Need help with T-150 Tranny Popping Out of 2nd
I might as well start sharpening up the old check book. :)
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkv9h1oier9qe3@corp.supernews.com...
> I know, but why lose hope??? ;-)
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F4F8C18.C81D9DF2@***.net...
> > Dreamer.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > GK wrote:
> > >
> > > I took the shifter assembly off again to have another look. It appears
> that
> > > one of the small parts inserts from the 1st/2nd synchronizer hub is
> missing.
> > > According to my rebuild manual there should be 3 inserts per synchro.
I
> > > guess I missed it the first time and I have no idea if it's in the
> bottom of
> > > the case or was never put in. Probably the latter. Luckily, the whole
> "small
> > > parts" kit for the T-150 is around $35 from 4WD Hardware. Now I wonder
> if I
> > > can actually install it myself without a full disassembly??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > GK
> > >
> > > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:V%o3b.2623$eG2.262597@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> > > > I have a 79 CJ-5 with 304 and T-150. Tranny was just completely
> rebuilt,
> > > all
> > > > gears. I have replaced tranny mount, torque-arm bushing, and motor
> mounts
> > > > with new poly ones. I also rebuilt the shifter myself with new
spring,
> > > > retaining pins, etc. and completely replaced and adjusted the clutch
> > > > bell-crank linkage.. The shifter is not hitting any part of the body
> in
> > > any
> > > > gear. The belly pan is secure as well. Upon driving, all is smooth
> except
> > > in
> > > > second gear. The shift seems a little short into second compared to
> all
> > > the
> > > > other gears. When driving in second, I can hold the shifter in gear
> and
> > > feel
> > > > a pop through the shifter right around the same RPM range every
time.
> If I
> > > > was not holding it in, it would come out of gear. I does not seem to
> like
> > > > cornering in second gear very much either. I inspected the shifter
> > > assembly
> > > > and both shift forks look to be in good shape except for a minimal
> amount
> > > of
> > > > wear from years of driving and they don't bind on anything that I
can
> see.
> > > > The shift fork for second gear does have an extremely minute amount
of
> > > play
> > > > on the shift rail compared to the other fork, but it does not seem
too
> out
> > > > of whack. Also, I drained the crud gear oil out that the mechanic
put
> in
> > > it
> > > > and replaced it with Mobile 1 75W-90 GL-5. That really helped smooth
> > > things
> > > > out a bit, but did not solve the second gear issue.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I cannot simply take it back
to
> the
> > > > guy who overhauled the tranny because that was done several months
> back by
> > > > the previous owner. Also, if I have to take this into a shop, what
> kind of
> > > > $$$$$ should I expect?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > GK
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
"Gerald G. McGeorge" <gmcgeorge@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:vkv9h1oier9qe3@corp.supernews.com...
> I know, but why lose hope??? ;-)
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3F4F8C18.C81D9DF2@***.net...
> > Dreamer.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > GK wrote:
> > >
> > > I took the shifter assembly off again to have another look. It appears
> that
> > > one of the small parts inserts from the 1st/2nd synchronizer hub is
> missing.
> > > According to my rebuild manual there should be 3 inserts per synchro.
I
> > > guess I missed it the first time and I have no idea if it's in the
> bottom of
> > > the case or was never put in. Probably the latter. Luckily, the whole
> "small
> > > parts" kit for the T-150 is around $35 from 4WD Hardware. Now I wonder
> if I
> > > can actually install it myself without a full disassembly??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > GK
> > >
> > > "GK" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:V%o3b.2623$eG2.262597@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> > > > I have a 79 CJ-5 with 304 and T-150. Tranny was just completely
> rebuilt,
> > > all
> > > > gears. I have replaced tranny mount, torque-arm bushing, and motor
> mounts
> > > > with new poly ones. I also rebuilt the shifter myself with new
spring,
> > > > retaining pins, etc. and completely replaced and adjusted the clutch
> > > > bell-crank linkage.. The shifter is not hitting any part of the body
> in
> > > any
> > > > gear. The belly pan is secure as well. Upon driving, all is smooth
> except
> > > in
> > > > second gear. The shift seems a little short into second compared to
> all
> > > the
> > > > other gears. When driving in second, I can hold the shifter in gear
> and
> > > feel
> > > > a pop through the shifter right around the same RPM range every
time.
> If I
> > > > was not holding it in, it would come out of gear. I does not seem to
> like
> > > > cornering in second gear very much either. I inspected the shifter
> > > assembly
> > > > and both shift forks look to be in good shape except for a minimal
> amount
> > > of
> > > > wear from years of driving and they don't bind on anything that I
can
> see.
> > > > The shift fork for second gear does have an extremely minute amount
of
> > > play
> > > > on the shift rail compared to the other fork, but it does not seem
too
> out
> > > > of whack. Also, I drained the crud gear oil out that the mechanic
put
> in
> > > it
> > > > and replaced it with Mobile 1 75W-90 GL-5. That really helped smooth
> > > things
> > > > out a bit, but did not solve the second gear issue.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I cannot simply take it back
to
> the
> > > > guy who overhauled the tranny because that was done several months
> back by
> > > > the previous owner. Also, if I have to take this into a shop, what
> kind of
> > > > $$$$$ should I expect?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > GK
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
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