Thanks for explaining the fine print, Jerry. I have wondered about it. I
guess I'll just buy the pads and drag the rotors and drums to the machine
shop myself next time. :o(

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:IF8zf.14017$V.12156@fed1read04...
> Yeah but Midas rapes you on the labor which is not included in that
> "guarantee" and will ALWAYS find something else for you to buy and pay
> for if you bring it back for new pads. It's a gimmick and I'm surprised
> many fall for it.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime
replacement
> > guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have to
pay
> > for replacements again for as long as you own your car."
> >
> > http://www.midas.com/midas_u/brakes.aspx
> >
> > I am thinking that brakes should last more than 8-12 months, but I don't
> > know where you live and drive. I can remember sanding used pads, or
putting
> > duct tape or "silencing compound" on the back, to quiet the squealing.
> > Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Cappy2112" <cappy2112@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1137477680.672737.247240@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>>>Was it professionally installed? If so just take it back.
> >>
> >>Yes, I always go to garages for everything on the Jeep.
> >>The brakes dont' start chattering until 8-12 months or more after they
> >>have been replcaed. It's not like it happens a wek later.
> >>
> >>Do you really think anyone would replace the pads again, after more
> >>than 10K miles (approx)?
> >>I don't- even from a reputable dealer or garage.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>My first choice would be to check the speaker. Remove the grill
(cover)
> >
> > of the >>speaker.
> >
> >>How? The grill is press fitted into the door paenl. I f I tried to pry
> >>it out, I'm afriad I would bend the grill or cosmetically damage it.
> >>
> >>I'd rather take the door panel off- if it's something i can do without
> >>screwing up the window motor mechanism & lock.
> >>
> >>Once I get the door panel off, I know how to look for loose wires & bas
> >>splcies. It's getting into the door that's a problem.
> >>
> >>Thanks for the reply
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Thanks for explaining the fine print, Jerry. I have wondered about it. I
guess I'll just buy the pads and drag the rotors and drums to the machine
shop myself next time. :o(

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:IF8zf.14017$V.12156@fed1read04...
> Yeah but Midas rapes you on the labor which is not included in that
> "guarantee" and will ALWAYS find something else for you to buy and pay
> for if you bring it back for new pads. It's a gimmick and I'm surprised
> many fall for it.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime
replacement
> > guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have to
pay
> > for replacements again for as long as you own your car."
> >
> > http://www.midas.com/midas_u/brakes.aspx
> >
> > I am thinking that brakes should last more than 8-12 months, but I don't
> > know where you live and drive. I can remember sanding used pads, or
putting
> > duct tape or "silencing compound" on the back, to quiet the squealing.
> > Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Cappy2112" <cappy2112@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1137477680.672737.247240@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>>>Was it professionally installed? If so just take it back.
> >>
> >>Yes, I always go to garages for everything on the Jeep.
> >>The brakes dont' start chattering until 8-12 months or more after they
> >>have been replcaed. It's not like it happens a wek later.
> >>
> >>Do you really think anyone would replace the pads again, after more
> >>than 10K miles (approx)?
> >>I don't- even from a reputable dealer or garage.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>My first choice would be to check the speaker. Remove the grill
(cover)
> >
> > of the >>speaker.
> >
> >>How? The grill is press fitted into the door paenl. I f I tried to pry
> >>it out, I'm afriad I would bend the grill or cosmetically damage it.
> >>
> >>I'd rather take the door panel off- if it's something i can do without
> >>screwing up the window motor mechanism & lock.
> >>
> >>Once I get the door panel off, I know how to look for loose wires & bas
> >>splcies. It's getting into the door that's a problem.
> >>
> >>Thanks for the reply
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Thanks for explaining the fine print, Jerry. I have wondered about it. I
guess I'll just buy the pads and drag the rotors and drums to the machine
shop myself next time. :o(

Earle

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:IF8zf.14017$V.12156@fed1read04...
> Yeah but Midas rapes you on the labor which is not included in that
> "guarantee" and will ALWAYS find something else for you to buy and pay
> for if you bring it back for new pads. It's a gimmick and I'm surprised
> many fall for it.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime
replacement
> > guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have to
pay
> > for replacements again for as long as you own your car."
> >
> > http://www.midas.com/midas_u/brakes.aspx
> >
> > I am thinking that brakes should last more than 8-12 months, but I don't
> > know where you live and drive. I can remember sanding used pads, or
putting
> > duct tape or "silencing compound" on the back, to quiet the squealing.
> > Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Cappy2112" <cappy2112@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1137477680.672737.247240@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>>>Was it professionally installed? If so just take it back.
> >>
> >>Yes, I always go to garages for everything on the Jeep.
> >>The brakes dont' start chattering until 8-12 months or more after they
> >>have been replcaed. It's not like it happens a wek later.
> >>
> >>Do you really think anyone would replace the pads again, after more
> >>than 10K miles (approx)?
> >>I don't- even from a reputable dealer or garage.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>My first choice would be to check the speaker. Remove the grill
(cover)
> >
> > of the >>speaker.
> >
> >>How? The grill is press fitted into the door paenl. I f I tried to pry
> >>it out, I'm afriad I would bend the grill or cosmetically damage it.
> >>
> >>I'd rather take the door panel off- if it's something i can do without
> >>screwing up the window motor mechanism & lock.
> >>
> >>Once I get the door panel off, I know how to look for loose wires & bas
> >>splcies. It's getting into the door that's a problem.
> >>
> >>Thanks for the reply
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

You might want to call them and ask. I remember doing the Midas thing on
another car and having them replace the pads without charging for labor here
in NJ. I had them do an oil change; they had something charged that I
benefited from. They did find a leaking slave cylinder that was real and I
paid for that too, but no labor for the pads. Yes labor for cutting the
drums/rotors if needed. It has been a bit of a while tho...
Tomes

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43cd31c6$0$31814$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Thanks for explaining the fine print, Jerry. I have wondered about it. I
> guess I'll just buy the pads and drag the rotors and drums to the machine
> shop myself next time. :o(
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:IF8zf.14017$V.12156@fed1read04...
>> Yeah but Midas rapes you on the labor which is not included in that
>> "guarantee" and will ALWAYS find something else for you to buy and pay
>> for if you bring it back for new pads. It's a gimmick and I'm surprised
>> many fall for it.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime
> replacement
>> > guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have
>> > to
> pay
>> > for replacements again for as long as you own your car."
>> >
>> > http://www.midas.com/midas_u/brakes.aspx
>> >
>> > I am thinking that brakes should last more than 8-12 months, but I
>> > don't
>> > know where you live and drive. I can remember sanding used pads, or
> putting
>> > duct tape or "silencing compound" on the back, to quiet the squealing.
>> > Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Cappy2112" <cappy2112@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1137477680.672737.247240@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> >>>>Was it professionally installed? If so just take it back.
>> >>
>> >>Yes, I always go to garages for everything on the Jeep.
>> >>The brakes dont' start chattering until 8-12 months or more after they
>> >>have been replcaed. It's not like it happens a wek later.
>> >>
>> >>Do you really think anyone would replace the pads again, after more
>> >>than 10K miles (approx)?
>> >>I don't- even from a reputable dealer or garage.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>My first choice would be to check the speaker. Remove the grill
> (cover)
>> >
>> > of the >>speaker.
>> >
>> >>How? The grill is press fitted into the door paenl. I f I tried to pry
>> >>it out, I'm afriad I would bend the grill or cosmetically damage it.
>> >>
>> >>I'd rather take the door panel off- if it's something i can do without
>> >>screwing up the window motor mechanism & lock.
>> >>
>> >>Once I get the door panel off, I know how to look for loose wires & bas
>> >>splcies. It's getting into the door that's a problem.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks for the reply
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>

 

You might want to call them and ask. I remember doing the Midas thing on
another car and having them replace the pads without charging for labor here
in NJ. I had them do an oil change; they had something charged that I
benefited from. They did find a leaking slave cylinder that was real and I
paid for that too, but no labor for the pads. Yes labor for cutting the
drums/rotors if needed. It has been a bit of a while tho...
Tomes

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43cd31c6$0$31814$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Thanks for explaining the fine print, Jerry. I have wondered about it. I
> guess I'll just buy the pads and drag the rotors and drums to the machine
> shop myself next time. :o(
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:IF8zf.14017$V.12156@fed1read04...
>> Yeah but Midas rapes you on the labor which is not included in that
>> "guarantee" and will ALWAYS find something else for you to buy and pay
>> for if you bring it back for new pads. It's a gimmick and I'm surprised
>> many fall for it.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime
> replacement
>> > guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have
>> > to
> pay
>> > for replacements again for as long as you own your car."
>> >
>> > http://www.midas.com/midas_u/brakes.aspx
>> >
>> > I am thinking that brakes should last more than 8-12 months, but I
>> > don't
>> > know where you live and drive. I can remember sanding used pads, or
> putting
>> > duct tape or "silencing compound" on the back, to quiet the squealing.
>> > Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Cappy2112" <cappy2112@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1137477680.672737.247240@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> >>>>Was it professionally installed? If so just take it back.
>> >>
>> >>Yes, I always go to garages for everything on the Jeep.
>> >>The brakes dont' start chattering until 8-12 months or more after they
>> >>have been replcaed. It's not like it happens a wek later.
>> >>
>> >>Do you really think anyone would replace the pads again, after more
>> >>than 10K miles (approx)?
>> >>I don't- even from a reputable dealer or garage.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>My first choice would be to check the speaker. Remove the grill
> (cover)
>> >
>> > of the >>speaker.
>> >
>> >>How? The grill is press fitted into the door paenl. I f I tried to pry
>> >>it out, I'm afriad I would bend the grill or cosmetically damage it.
>> >>
>> >>I'd rather take the door panel off- if it's something i can do without
>> >>screwing up the window motor mechanism & lock.
>> >>
>> >>Once I get the door panel off, I know how to look for loose wires & bas
>> >>splcies. It's getting into the door that's a problem.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks for the reply
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>

 

You might want to call them and ask. I remember doing the Midas thing on
another car and having them replace the pads without charging for labor here
in NJ. I had them do an oil change; they had something charged that I
benefited from. They did find a leaking slave cylinder that was real and I
paid for that too, but no labor for the pads. Yes labor for cutting the
drums/rotors if needed. It has been a bit of a while tho...
Tomes

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43cd31c6$0$31814$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Thanks for explaining the fine print, Jerry. I have wondered about it. I
> guess I'll just buy the pads and drag the rotors and drums to the machine
> shop myself next time. :o(
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:IF8zf.14017$V.12156@fed1read04...
>> Yeah but Midas rapes you on the labor which is not included in that
>> "guarantee" and will ALWAYS find something else for you to buy and pay
>> for if you bring it back for new pads. It's a gimmick and I'm surprised
>> many fall for it.
>>
>> Earle Horton wrote:
>> > "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime
> replacement
>> > guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have
>> > to
> pay
>> > for replacements again for as long as you own your car."
>> >
>> > http://www.midas.com/midas_u/brakes.aspx
>> >
>> > I am thinking that brakes should last more than 8-12 months, but I
>> > don't
>> > know where you live and drive. I can remember sanding used pads, or
> putting
>> > duct tape or "silencing compound" on the back, to quiet the squealing.
>> > Sometimes it worked, sometimes not.
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "Cappy2112" <cappy2112@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1137477680.672737.247240@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >
>> >>>>Was it professionally installed? If so just take it back.
>> >>
>> >>Yes, I always go to garages for everything on the Jeep.
>> >>The brakes dont' start chattering until 8-12 months or more after they
>> >>have been replcaed. It's not like it happens a wek later.
>> >>
>> >>Do you really think anyone would replace the pads again, after more
>> >>than 10K miles (approx)?
>> >>I don't- even from a reputable dealer or garage.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>>My first choice would be to check the speaker. Remove the grill
> (cover)
>> >
>> > of the >>speaker.
>> >
>> >>How? The grill is press fitted into the door paenl. I f I tried to pry
>> >>it out, I'm afriad I would bend the grill or cosmetically damage it.
>> >>
>> >>I'd rather take the door panel off- if it's something i can do without
>> >>screwing up the window motor mechanism & lock.
>> >>
>> >>Once I get the door panel off, I know how to look for loose wires & bas
>> >>splcies. It's getting into the door that's a problem.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks for the reply
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>

 

Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime replacement
> guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have to pay
> for replacements again for as long as you own your car."

Pads and shoes are dirt cheap. Even the top notch ones like RayBestos CM
like my ZJ uses. And guess what, the stuff midol..er midas.. sells is bottom
quality. They want you back to get free shoes and pay for the labor.


Please don't use midas, the parts are ---- and the "ASE professionals" usually
don't know which end of a brake shoe is up.

Did I tell you about the time they tried to install the wrong shoes on my
ZJ and I stopped them just as "Mr. ASE Certified Mechanic" was going to weld
on the tab that was missing on the new shoes. WELD! ON A BRAKE SYSTEM!
After about half an hour of argument and my yanking the MIG welders plug
out of the wall, guess what. He had the wrong friggin shoes.

At another midas store, just prior to buying the stillen rotors from kolak.
These dolts turned a rotor down using the wrong settings. Turned it fast
and left spiral grooves. Then had the unmitigated ***** to say they would
wear flat. (after what, half the friggin pad?) I just needed the warp
turned out so my brakes would be ok for a week or two while the replacements
came in. Didn't even last that long. Turns out they cut the pads BELOW
safety minimum and that was the _FIRST_ turning. They cut it deep, fast,
and WRONG. I could have done a better job with a large rock.

Sorry, I will _NEVER_ recommend midas to anyone and will _ALWAYS_ tell folks
to stay well away.

--
DougW

 

Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime replacement
> guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have to pay
> for replacements again for as long as you own your car."

Pads and shoes are dirt cheap. Even the top notch ones like RayBestos CM
like my ZJ uses. And guess what, the stuff midol..er midas.. sells is bottom
quality. They want you back to get free shoes and pay for the labor.


Please don't use midas, the parts are ---- and the "ASE professionals" usually
don't know which end of a brake shoe is up.

Did I tell you about the time they tried to install the wrong shoes on my
ZJ and I stopped them just as "Mr. ASE Certified Mechanic" was going to weld
on the tab that was missing on the new shoes. WELD! ON A BRAKE SYSTEM!
After about half an hour of argument and my yanking the MIG welders plug
out of the wall, guess what. He had the wrong friggin shoes.

At another midas store, just prior to buying the stillen rotors from kolak.
These dolts turned a rotor down using the wrong settings. Turned it fast
and left spiral grooves. Then had the unmitigated ***** to say they would
wear flat. (after what, half the friggin pad?) I just needed the warp
turned out so my brakes would be ok for a week or two while the replacements
came in. Didn't even last that long. Turns out they cut the pads BELOW
safety minimum and that was the _FIRST_ turning. They cut it deep, fast,
and WRONG. I could have done a better job with a large rock.

Sorry, I will _NEVER_ recommend midas to anyone and will _ALWAYS_ tell folks
to stay well away.

--
DougW

 

Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
> "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime replacement
> guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have to pay
> for replacements again for as long as you own your car."

Pads and shoes are dirt cheap. Even the top notch ones like RayBestos CM
like my ZJ uses. And guess what, the stuff midol..er midas.. sells is bottom
quality. They want you back to get free shoes and pay for the labor.


Please don't use midas, the parts are ---- and the "ASE professionals" usually
don't know which end of a brake shoe is up.

Did I tell you about the time they tried to install the wrong shoes on my
ZJ and I stopped them just as "Mr. ASE Certified Mechanic" was going to weld
on the tab that was missing on the new shoes. WELD! ON A BRAKE SYSTEM!
After about half an hour of argument and my yanking the MIG welders plug
out of the wall, guess what. He had the wrong friggin shoes.

At another midas store, just prior to buying the stillen rotors from kolak.
These dolts turned a rotor down using the wrong settings. Turned it fast
and left spiral grooves. Then had the unmitigated ***** to say they would
wear flat. (after what, half the friggin pad?) I just needed the warp
turned out so my brakes would be ok for a week or two while the replacements
came in. Didn't even last that long. Turns out they cut the pads BELOW
safety minimum and that was the _FIRST_ turning. They cut it deep, fast,
and WRONG. I could have done a better job with a large rock.

Sorry, I will _NEVER_ recommend midas to anyone and will _ALWAYS_ tell folks
to stay well away.

--
DougW

 

DougW wrote:
> Earle Horton did pass the time by typing:
>> "Our quality pads and shoes come with the famous Midas lifetime replacement
>> guarantee: Once you purchase them at Midas, you will never, ever have to pay
>> for replacements again for as long as you own your car."
>
> Pads and shoes are dirt cheap. Even the top notch ones like RayBestos CM
> like my ZJ uses. And guess what, the stuff midol..er midas.. sells is bottom
> quality. They want you back to get free shoes and pay for the labor.
>
>

snip

Another trick is to turn all drums and rotors to the maximum allowable.
When you come back for your free linings, guess what? You need new
rotors or drums because they are already at the legal max.

Actually, their mufflers (used to be anyway) pretty decent. My
Grandfather had a 65 Pontiac with duals, 2 muffs, plus 2 resonators. He
got free replacements on all 4 over the years. But they would get you on
pipes, trying to sell you a pre-bent one for say $200 when any regular
muffler shop would make one up for about $30. (This was a few years ago.)

I only patronize local muffler shops these days. They are cheaper and
the guys know what they are doing, even with a torch.

Best Regards,

DAve