Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
02-10-2004, 11:37 PM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:34:47 UTC donny1487@aol.com (Donny) wrote:
> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...
Having been in this position, you might consider the second option. I
pulled the BA 10/5 apart after I had swapped in an AX15 and the
diffetence is night and day as far as strength goes ( What I really
wanted was the inout shaft to use as an alignment tool ). Just the
weight difference alone was enlightening: I dropped the BA 10/5 by
myself and set it out from under the Jeep with one hand then bought a
transmission jack to get the AX15 into place. The BA 10/5 has several
obvious weak points in the way the shafts/gears are mounted and that
@#$ aluminum synchro set is a kludge from word go. I could go on and
on, but the added strength is well worth the effort. I think mine
wound up costing me about $1400, but I swapped bell housings,
converted to the extrernal slave, and needed several extra parts like
new cross members and mount plates since the MJ does not use the skid
plate as part of the mounting scheme. The actual cost of the rebuilt
tranny (all new bearings and brass) was about half of the total price.
I was having all sorts of trouble with 1-2 shifts and the inut shaft
was making ominous noises. Once I tore it down, I could see that I
was a few thouandths away from having the idler gears meshing with the
input and cluster gears - grenade time. The cost of the synchro
assembly alone for rebuild approaches the cost of new tranny itself.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...
Having been in this position, you might consider the second option. I
pulled the BA 10/5 apart after I had swapped in an AX15 and the
diffetence is night and day as far as strength goes ( What I really
wanted was the inout shaft to use as an alignment tool ). Just the
weight difference alone was enlightening: I dropped the BA 10/5 by
myself and set it out from under the Jeep with one hand then bought a
transmission jack to get the AX15 into place. The BA 10/5 has several
obvious weak points in the way the shafts/gears are mounted and that
@#$ aluminum synchro set is a kludge from word go. I could go on and
on, but the added strength is well worth the effort. I think mine
wound up costing me about $1400, but I swapped bell housings,
converted to the extrernal slave, and needed several extra parts like
new cross members and mount plates since the MJ does not use the skid
plate as part of the mounting scheme. The actual cost of the rebuilt
tranny (all new bearings and brass) was about half of the total price.
I was having all sorts of trouble with 1-2 shifts and the inut shaft
was making ominous noises. Once I tore it down, I could see that I
was a few thouandths away from having the idler gears meshing with the
input and cluster gears - grenade time. The cost of the synchro
assembly alone for rebuild approaches the cost of new tranny itself.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
02-10-2004, 11:37 PM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:34:47 UTC donny1487@aol.com (Donny) wrote:
> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...
Having been in this position, you might consider the second option. I
pulled the BA 10/5 apart after I had swapped in an AX15 and the
diffetence is night and day as far as strength goes ( What I really
wanted was the inout shaft to use as an alignment tool ). Just the
weight difference alone was enlightening: I dropped the BA 10/5 by
myself and set it out from under the Jeep with one hand then bought a
transmission jack to get the AX15 into place. The BA 10/5 has several
obvious weak points in the way the shafts/gears are mounted and that
@#$ aluminum synchro set is a kludge from word go. I could go on and
on, but the added strength is well worth the effort. I think mine
wound up costing me about $1400, but I swapped bell housings,
converted to the extrernal slave, and needed several extra parts like
new cross members and mount plates since the MJ does not use the skid
plate as part of the mounting scheme. The actual cost of the rebuilt
tranny (all new bearings and brass) was about half of the total price.
I was having all sorts of trouble with 1-2 shifts and the inut shaft
was making ominous noises. Once I tore it down, I could see that I
was a few thouandths away from having the idler gears meshing with the
input and cluster gears - grenade time. The cost of the synchro
assembly alone for rebuild approaches the cost of new tranny itself.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
> Hey guys, thanks for all the help.
>
> I took it to the shop today and they said i was going to have to: A.
> Get a new/new to me tranny or, B. Have mine rebuilt.
> Both of these options are a bit pricy so i think i will wait a while(
> they said it would'nt do any more harm, it was gona have to be rebuilt
> anyway).
>
> So... Being a true idiot/money blower/Jeeper, i got to thinking, is
> there any nice options i should look at since i have to replace it
> anyway...
Having been in this position, you might consider the second option. I
pulled the BA 10/5 apart after I had swapped in an AX15 and the
diffetence is night and day as far as strength goes ( What I really
wanted was the inout shaft to use as an alignment tool ). Just the
weight difference alone was enlightening: I dropped the BA 10/5 by
myself and set it out from under the Jeep with one hand then bought a
transmission jack to get the AX15 into place. The BA 10/5 has several
obvious weak points in the way the shafts/gears are mounted and that
@#$ aluminum synchro set is a kludge from word go. I could go on and
on, but the added strength is well worth the effort. I think mine
wound up costing me about $1400, but I swapped bell housings,
converted to the extrernal slave, and needed several extra parts like
new cross members and mount plates since the MJ does not use the skid
plate as part of the mounting scheme. The actual cost of the rebuilt
tranny (all new bearings and brass) was about half of the total price.
I was having all sorts of trouble with 1-2 shifts and the inut shaft
was making ominous noises. Once I tore it down, I could see that I
was a few thouandths away from having the idler gears meshing with the
input and cluster gears - grenade time. The cost of the synchro
assembly alone for rebuild approaches the cost of new tranny itself.
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
02-11-2004, 04:20 PM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<4029430E.E32A62D4@***.net>...
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
-Donny
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
-Donny
02-11-2004, 04:20 PM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<4029430E.E32A62D4@***.net>...
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
-Donny
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
-Donny
02-11-2004, 04:20 PM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote in message news:<4029430E.E32A62D4@***.net>...
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
-Donny
> Then it is the sychros and not the bearings?
Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
-Donny
02-11-2004, 04:33 PM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny
02-11-2004, 04:33 PM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny
02-11-2004, 04:33 PM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny
grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Donny wrote:
>
> Thats what he said but i am going to have it looked at by another shop
> because after checking around he gave me a much higher price than what
> other shops have given me over the phone (of course they havnt driven
> it so they may say the same thing when i have them check it out).
>
> -Donny
02-12-2004, 01:57 AM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
better anyway).
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
better anyway).
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
02-12-2004, 01:57 AM
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Re: Nasty sound in 5th and trouble engaging in 3rd...95 yj i6
On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 21:33:42 UTC L.W.(ßill) ------ III
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
better anyway).
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>
<----------@***.net> wrote:
> Then I would just learn to double clutch. Because it's about two
> grand to get the ten dollar sync rings in there.
That's probably what they are worth, but check the price of those
aluminum synchros sometime - that was the deciding moment when I
originally thought about rebuilding my BA 10/5 (before I learned
better anyway).
--
Will Honea <whonea@codenet.net>