Mike Romain

They have others besides the marine ones. I guess in your neck of the
woods, the marine ones would be a big seller. The marine ones are
designed to be totally drained like you just did and recover many
times. They apparently are a little lower with starting amps, but boats
still have V8 engines they need to start up so......

Snow posted some links to others than marine.

Watch the damn warranties though! A 'supposedly' vibration proof
battery that supposedly 'never' fails so they don't 'need' a good
warranty is just pure snake oil BS like the Optima 'name' as I found out
the hard way.

Mike

Greg wrote:
>
> I was just over at Can Tire looking at those, but they are marine
> batteries, any idea what the difference is?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42223DB2.ACDCF045@sympatico.ca...
> >I think they are a total waste of double the money. Logging road
> > vibrations will still kill them just like regular batteries and they
> > have a short warranty.
> >
> > Canadian Tire now sells the spiral cell batteries, I would be checking
> > those out for the warranty if nothing else. The spiral cells are nice
> > if you aren't rubber side down, they have no acid to spill so you can
> > still winch yourself back over.
> >
> > Oh, if you cut the label on your battery, you should still be able to
> > open the top to top up the water for the charge if needed. A deep
> > discharge/charge can use up water.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
> >> give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on
> >> Optima
> >> red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?
> >>
> >> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> >> > I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> >> > wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights,
> >> > battery
> >> > so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights.
> >> > So
> >> > question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of
> >> > those
> >> > ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> >> > charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
> >> > that
> >> > dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
> >> > battery
> >> > can come back from that.
> >> >

Jeff Strickland

The Optima is a very good choice. I bought my CJ in 1998, with unknown years
on the Optima Red Top. I now have 7 more years and it is going strong. The
best part is that it has been upsidedown a few times, and the engine bay is
not full of battery acid. This is worth the price in itself.




"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OyqUd.521788$6l.328850@pd7tw2no...
> Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
> give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on Optima
> red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> > I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> > wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
> > so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> > question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of
those
> > ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> > charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
that
> > dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
battery
> > can come back from that.
> >
>
>

Jeff Strickland

The Optima is a very good choice. I bought my CJ in 1998, with unknown years
on the Optima Red Top. I now have 7 more years and it is going strong. The
best part is that it has been upsidedown a few times, and the engine bay is
not full of battery acid. This is worth the price in itself.




"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OyqUd.521788$6l.328850@pd7tw2no...
> Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
> give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on Optima
> red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> > I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> > wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
> > so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> > question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of
those
> > ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> > charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
that
> > dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
battery
> > can come back from that.
> >
>
>

Jeff Strickland

The Optima is a very good choice. I bought my CJ in 1998, with unknown years
on the Optima Red Top. I now have 7 more years and it is going strong. The
best part is that it has been upsidedown a few times, and the engine bay is
not full of battery acid. This is worth the price in itself.




"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OyqUd.521788$6l.328850@pd7tw2no...
> Thanks for all the replies, will check to see if it had date on it and
> give it an overnight charge, if dead does anyone have an opinion on Optima
> red tops, good, bad or a waiste of double the money?
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> > I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> > wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
> > so dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> > question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of
those
> > ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> > charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
that
> > dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
battery
> > can come back from that.
> >
>
>

Steve Foley

If you're interested in closing the barn door.......

I always try to lock the drivers door when I turn on the headlights. That
way, when I try to open the door to get out and it's locked, I remember the
lights.

Works in my YJ. Doesn't do squat in the Caravan, but that beeps when I leave
the lights on.

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
so
> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
> can come back from that.
>
>

Steve Foley

If you're interested in closing the barn door.......

I always try to lock the drivers door when I turn on the headlights. That
way, when I try to open the door to get out and it's locked, I remember the
lights.

Works in my YJ. Doesn't do squat in the Caravan, but that beeps when I leave
the lights on.

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
so
> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
> can come back from that.
>
>

Steve Foley

If you're interested in closing the barn door.......

I always try to lock the drivers door when I turn on the headlights. That
way, when I try to open the door to get out and it's locked, I remember the
lights.

Works in my YJ. Doesn't do squat in the Caravan, but that beeps when I leave
the lights on.

"Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
so
> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones that
> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle battery
> can come back from that.
>
>

Greg

Will have to try that.

"Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
news:ZvLUd.45928$W16.9327@trndny07...
> If you're interested in closing the barn door.......
>
> I always try to lock the drivers door when I turn on the headlights. That
> way, when I try to open the door to get out and it's locked, I remember
> the
> lights.
>
> Works in my YJ. Doesn't do squat in the Caravan, but that beeps when I
> leave
> the lights on.
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
>> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
>> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
> so
>> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
>> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
>> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
>> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
>> that
>> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
>> battery
>> can come back from that.
>>
>>
>
>

Greg

Will have to try that.

"Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
news:ZvLUd.45928$W16.9327@trndny07...
> If you're interested in closing the barn door.......
>
> I always try to lock the drivers door when I turn on the headlights. That
> way, when I try to open the door to get out and it's locked, I remember
> the
> lights.
>
> Works in my YJ. Doesn't do squat in the Caravan, but that beeps when I
> leave
> the lights on.
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
>> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
>> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
> so
>> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
>> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
>> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
>> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
>> that
>> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
>> battery
>> can come back from that.
>>
>>
>
>

Greg

Will have to try that.

"Steve Foley" <steve.foley@DELETE.att.net> wrote in message
news:ZvLUd.45928$W16.9327@trndny07...
> If you're interested in closing the barn door.......
>
> I always try to lock the drivers door when I turn on the headlights. That
> way, when I try to open the door to get out and it's locked, I remember
> the
> lights.
>
> Works in my YJ. Doesn't do squat in the Caravan, but that beeps when I
> leave
> the lights on.
>
> "Greg" <greglc84@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:nBpUd.519892$8l.226545@pd7tw1no...
>> I park my CJ in one of those 10'x20' grey plastic garages, was out
>> wheeling last sunday, and obviously I forgot to turn off lights, battery
> so
>> dead not even a click, stuck camper battery in and on come lights. So
>> question is, had CJ for 1 1/2 years, battery of unknown age, one of those
>> ones with green lights, ( no green there today ), is it worth trying to
>> charge it or is it shot? I've had dead batteries before, but not ones
>> that
>> dead, 7 days of headlights on, so I don't know if a non deap cycle
>> battery
>> can come back from that.
>>
>>
>
>