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>> I could have been worse. When my oldest was a baby I had a car with no
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>> I could have been worse. When my oldest was a baby I had a car with no
>> heater. We used to wrap her up like a little Eskimo baby.
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h e a t e r... an option on civilian cars.
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> Billy Ray wrote:
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>> I could have been worse. When my oldest was a baby I had a car with no
>> heater. We used to wrap her up like a little Eskimo baby.
>>
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> Billy Ray wrote:
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>> I could have been worse. When my oldest was a baby I had a car with no
>> heater. We used to wrap her up like a little Eskimo baby.
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Re: musing about fuel savings
If the EPA has its way and they reclassify Pickups, Vans, and SUVs as
passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
mileage.
Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
torque for the modern large applications that people want.
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> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
>>> voltmeters.
>>>
>>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
>>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
>>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
>>
>> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
>
> Correct.
> http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
>
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> DougW
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passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
mileage.
Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
torque for the modern large applications that people want.
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
>>> voltmeters.
>>>
>>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
>>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
>>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
>>
>> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
>
> Correct.
> http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
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Re: musing about fuel savings
If the EPA has its way and they reclassify Pickups, Vans, and SUVs as
passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
mileage.
Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
torque for the modern large applications that people want.
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
>>> voltmeters.
>>>
>>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
>>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
>>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
>>
>> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
>
> Correct.
> http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
mileage.
Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
torque for the modern large applications that people want.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
>>> voltmeters.
>>>
>>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
>>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
>>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
>>
>> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
>
> Correct.
> http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
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Re: musing about fuel savings
If the EPA has its way and they reclassify Pickups, Vans, and SUVs as
passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
mileage.
Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
torque for the modern large applications that people want.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
>>> voltmeters.
>>>
>>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
>>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
>>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
>>
>> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
>
> Correct.
> http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
mileage.
Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
torque for the modern large applications that people want.
--
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2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
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> Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
>>> voltmeters.
>>>
>>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
>>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
>
>>>> Billy Ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
>>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
>>
>> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
>
> Correct.
> http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
>
> --
> DougW
>
>
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Re: Off Topic Re: musing about fuel savings
Oh, I remember I ripped that unnecessary stuff out from my Civilian
Jeep: http://www.----------.com/cj5defrost.jpg and T-bird:
http://www.----------.com/temp/underhood.jpg
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Billy Ray wrote:
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> h e a t e r... an option on civilian cars.
>
> --
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> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
Jeep: http://www.----------.com/cj5defrost.jpg and T-bird:
http://www.----------.com/temp/underhood.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
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> h e a t e r... an option on civilian cars.
>
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Re: Off Topic Re: musing about fuel savings
Oh, I remember I ripped that unnecessary stuff out from my Civilian
Jeep: http://www.----------.com/cj5defrost.jpg and T-bird:
http://www.----------.com/temp/underhood.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> h e a t e r... an option on civilian cars.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
Jeep: http://www.----------.com/cj5defrost.jpg and T-bird:
http://www.----------.com/temp/underhood.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> h e a t e r... an option on civilian cars.
>
> --
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> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Re: Off Topic Re: musing about fuel savings
Oh, I remember I ripped that unnecessary stuff out from my Civilian
Jeep: http://www.----------.com/cj5defrost.jpg and T-bird:
http://www.----------.com/temp/underhood.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> h e a t e r... an option on civilian cars.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
Jeep: http://www.----------.com/cj5defrost.jpg and T-bird:
http://www.----------.com/temp/underhood.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> h e a t e r... an option on civilian cars.
>
> --
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> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Not in Kalifornia, diesel cars are outlawed:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html#cal
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Billy Ray wrote:
>
> If the EPA has its way and they reclassify Pickups, Vans, and SUVs as
> passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
> standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
> mileage.
>
> Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
>
> Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
> torque for the modern large applications that people want.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:g3GZe.7254$P34.3652@okepread07...
> > Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
> >> Clap Trap wrote:
> >>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> >>> voltmeters.
> >>>
> >>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> >>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> >
> >>>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> >>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
> >>
> >> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
> >
> > Correct.
> > http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html#cal
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> If the EPA has its way and they reclassify Pickups, Vans, and SUVs as
> passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
> standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
> mileage.
>
> Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
>
> Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
> torque for the modern large applications that people want.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:g3GZe.7254$P34.3652@okepread07...
> > Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
> >> Clap Trap wrote:
> >>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> >>> voltmeters.
> >>>
> >>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> >>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> >
> >>>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> >>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
> >>
> >> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
> >
> > Correct.
> > http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Not in Kalifornia, diesel cars are outlawed:
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html#cal
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> If the EPA has its way and they reclassify Pickups, Vans, and SUVs as
> passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
> standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
> mileage.
>
> Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
>
> Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
> torque for the modern large applications that people want.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:g3GZe.7254$P34.3652@okepread07...
> > Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
> >> Clap Trap wrote:
> >>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> >>> voltmeters.
> >>>
> >>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> >>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> >
> >>>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> >>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
> >>
> >> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
> >
> > Correct.
> > http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/light.html#cal
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> If the EPA has its way and they reclassify Pickups, Vans, and SUVs as
> passenger cars (which they generally are) we may be seeing diesels as
> standard equipment or low cost options because they will need to up their
> mileage.
>
> Add onto that they want to raise CAFE another 10%.
>
> Small gasoline engines, which were fine for real Jeeps, don't put out enough
> torque for the modern large applications that people want.
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
> .
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:g3GZe.7254$P34.3652@okepread07...
> > Bret Ludwig did pass the time by typing:
> >> Clap Trap wrote:
> >>> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> >>> voltmeters.
> >>>
> >>> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> >>>> Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> >>>> alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> >
> >>>> Billy Ray wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> >>>>> amplifiers, or off road lights
> >>
> >> Yes but real off road vehicles don't have.....spark plugs.
> >
> > Correct.
> > http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/mule.html
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >
