musing about fuel savings
09-25-2005, 04:07 PM
#31
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Re: musing about fuel savings
You know of a shop that will rewind an generator? Besides we all
like charging at full charge at just above idle, rather than at cruising
speed. Notice this conversion on the stockiest of Jeeps:
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...dEngine220.jpg
And yes, no Real Jeep uses a volt meter, all that tells you is the
state of your battery, not whether you're charging seventy amps and
using a hundred, like the amp meter will show that exact measurement in
discharge.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Clap Trap wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> voltmeters.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> > alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> >>Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> >>amplifiers, or off road lights
> >>
> >>(I felt compelled to throw this in)
> >>
> >>--
> >>.
> >>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
like charging at full charge at just above idle, rather than at cruising
speed. Notice this conversion on the stockiest of Jeeps:
http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...dEngine220.jpg
And yes, no Real Jeep uses a volt meter, all that tells you is the
state of your battery, not whether you're charging seventy amps and
using a hundred, like the amp meter will show that exact measurement in
discharge.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Clap Trap wrote:
>
> Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> voltmeters.
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> > alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> >>Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> >>amplifiers, or off road lights
> >>
> >>(I felt compelled to throw this in)
> >>
> >>--
> >>.
> >>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> >>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> >>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 04:18 PM
#32
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Re: musing about fuel savings
I know of shops here in Toronto Canada that will wind anything and sell
just brushes or diodes, etc....
I did the XJ's starter recently. It had me worried though, it dragged
for a bit until the brushes wore into the old center slabs but now
sounds normal.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You know of a shop that will rewind an generator? Besides we all
> like charging at full charge at just above idle, rather than at cruising
> speed. Notice this conversion on the stockiest of Jeeps:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...dEngine220.jpg
> And yes, no Real Jeep uses a volt meter, all that tells you is the
> state of your battery, not whether you're charging seventy amps and
> using a hundred, like the amp meter will show that exact measurement in
> discharge.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> > voltmeters.
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> > > alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Billy Ray wrote:
> > >
> > >>Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> > >>amplifiers, or off road lights
> > >>
> > >>(I felt compelled to throw this in)
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>.
> > >>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > >>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > >>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
just brushes or diodes, etc....
I did the XJ's starter recently. It had me worried though, it dragged
for a bit until the brushes wore into the old center slabs but now
sounds normal.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You know of a shop that will rewind an generator? Besides we all
> like charging at full charge at just above idle, rather than at cruising
> speed. Notice this conversion on the stockiest of Jeeps:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...dEngine220.jpg
> And yes, no Real Jeep uses a volt meter, all that tells you is the
> state of your battery, not whether you're charging seventy amps and
> using a hundred, like the amp meter will show that exact measurement in
> discharge.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> > voltmeters.
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> > > alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Billy Ray wrote:
> > >
> > >>Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> > >>amplifiers, or off road lights
> > >>
> > >>(I felt compelled to throw this in)
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>.
> > >>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > >>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > >>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 04:18 PM
#33
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Re: musing about fuel savings
I know of shops here in Toronto Canada that will wind anything and sell
just brushes or diodes, etc....
I did the XJ's starter recently. It had me worried though, it dragged
for a bit until the brushes wore into the old center slabs but now
sounds normal.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You know of a shop that will rewind an generator? Besides we all
> like charging at full charge at just above idle, rather than at cruising
> speed. Notice this conversion on the stockiest of Jeeps:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...dEngine220.jpg
> And yes, no Real Jeep uses a volt meter, all that tells you is the
> state of your battery, not whether you're charging seventy amps and
> using a hundred, like the amp meter will show that exact measurement in
> discharge.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> > voltmeters.
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> > > alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Billy Ray wrote:
> > >
> > >>Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> > >>amplifiers, or off road lights
> > >>
> > >>(I felt compelled to throw this in)
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>.
> > >>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > >>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > >>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
just brushes or diodes, etc....
I did the XJ's starter recently. It had me worried though, it dragged
for a bit until the brushes wore into the old center slabs but now
sounds normal.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You know of a shop that will rewind an generator? Besides we all
> like charging at full charge at just above idle, rather than at cruising
> speed. Notice this conversion on the stockiest of Jeeps:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...dEngine220.jpg
> And yes, no Real Jeep uses a volt meter, all that tells you is the
> state of your battery, not whether you're charging seventy amps and
> using a hundred, like the amp meter will show that exact measurement in
> discharge.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> > voltmeters.
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> > > alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Billy Ray wrote:
> > >
> > >>Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> > >>amplifiers, or off road lights
> > >>
> > >>(I felt compelled to throw this in)
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>.
> > >>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > >>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > >>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 04:18 PM
#34
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Re: musing about fuel savings
I know of shops here in Toronto Canada that will wind anything and sell
just brushes or diodes, etc....
I did the XJ's starter recently. It had me worried though, it dragged
for a bit until the brushes wore into the old center slabs but now
sounds normal.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You know of a shop that will rewind an generator? Besides we all
> like charging at full charge at just above idle, rather than at cruising
> speed. Notice this conversion on the stockiest of Jeeps:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...dEngine220.jpg
> And yes, no Real Jeep uses a volt meter, all that tells you is the
> state of your battery, not whether you're charging seventy amps and
> using a hundred, like the amp meter will show that exact measurement in
> discharge.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> > voltmeters.
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> > > alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Billy Ray wrote:
> > >
> > >>Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> > >>amplifiers, or off road lights
> > >>
> > >>(I felt compelled to throw this in)
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>.
> > >>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > >>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > >>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
just brushes or diodes, etc....
I did the XJ's starter recently. It had me worried though, it dragged
for a bit until the brushes wore into the old center slabs but now
sounds normal.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> You know of a shop that will rewind an generator? Besides we all
> like charging at full charge at just above idle, rather than at cruising
> speed. Notice this conversion on the stockiest of Jeeps:
> http://www.apple.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Pho...dEngine220.jpg
> And yes, no Real Jeep uses a volt meter, all that tells you is the
> state of your battery, not whether you're charging seventy amps and
> using a hundred, like the amp meter will show that exact measurement in
> discharge.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Clap Trap wrote:
> >
> > Real Jeeps have generators and amp gages, not alternators and dumba**
> > voltmeters.
> >
> > L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Real Jeep don't give a sh*t about gas mileage and have huge
> > > alternators and fans pulling at least ten horsepower.
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Billy Ray wrote:
> > >
> > >>Real Jeeps don't have alternators, radio
> > >>amplifiers, or off road lights
> > >>
> > >>(I felt compelled to throw this in)
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>.
> > >>Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> > >>2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> > >>Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 04:42 PM
#35
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Hi Bill,
Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
> until the 60's did they?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
> until the 60's did they?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 04:42 PM
#36
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Posts: n/a
Re: musing about fuel savings
Hi Bill,
Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
> until the 60's did they?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
> until the 60's did they?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 04:42 PM
#37
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Posts: n/a
Re: musing about fuel savings
Hi Bill,
Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
> until the 60's did they?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Billy Ray wrote:
>
> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
> until the 60's did they?
>
> --
> .
> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 05:12 PM
#38
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Yes, Of course back in the day vehicles did not need much power other than
for the ignition and the sad headlights we had back then.
I had a couple cars without radios other than a transistor propped against
the windshield. My first car radio was an Delco AM model with tubes and a
built in speaker scavenged from a junkyard for a couple dollars.
The kids nowadays don't know about that stuff though..
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43370BA3.80390C95@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
> antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
> driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
> Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
>> until the 60's did they?
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
for the ignition and the sad headlights we had back then.
I had a couple cars without radios other than a transistor propped against
the windshield. My first car radio was an Delco AM model with tubes and a
built in speaker scavenged from a junkyard for a couple dollars.
The kids nowadays don't know about that stuff though..
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43370BA3.80390C95@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
> antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
> driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
> Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
>> until the 60's did they?
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 05:12 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: musing about fuel savings
Yes, Of course back in the day vehicles did not need much power other than
for the ignition and the sad headlights we had back then.
I had a couple cars without radios other than a transistor propped against
the windshield. My first car radio was an Delco AM model with tubes and a
built in speaker scavenged from a junkyard for a couple dollars.
The kids nowadays don't know about that stuff though..
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43370BA3.80390C95@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
> antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
> driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
> Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
>> until the 60's did they?
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
for the ignition and the sad headlights we had back then.
I had a couple cars without radios other than a transistor propped against
the windshield. My first car radio was an Delco AM model with tubes and a
built in speaker scavenged from a junkyard for a couple dollars.
The kids nowadays don't know about that stuff though..
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43370BA3.80390C95@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
> antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
> driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
> Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
>> until the 60's did they?
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
09-25-2005, 05:12 PM
#40
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Re: musing about fuel savings
Yes, Of course back in the day vehicles did not need much power other than
for the ignition and the sad headlights we had back then.
I had a couple cars without radios other than a transistor propped against
the windshield. My first car radio was an Delco AM model with tubes and a
built in speaker scavenged from a junkyard for a couple dollars.
The kids nowadays don't know about that stuff though..
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43370BA3.80390C95@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
> antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
> driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
> Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
>> until the 60's did they?
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
for the ignition and the sad headlights we had back then.
I had a couple cars without radios other than a transistor propped against
the windshield. My first car radio was an Delco AM model with tubes and a
built in speaker scavenged from a junkyard for a couple dollars.
The kids nowadays don't know about that stuff though..
--
..
Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.
..
"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:43370BA3.80390C95@***.net...
> Hi Bill,
> Yes, but most everyone has converted, like if you walk through an
> antique auto show, you will see most have been converted, if it is a
> driver. Maybe paint it black to hide it, as in this otherwise stock
> Model A: http://www.----------.com/temp/29ModelAengine.jpg
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
>>
>> A real Jeep might have a generator you mean. Alternators didn't appear
>> until the 60's did they?
>>
>> --
>> .
>> Billy_Ray@SPAM.fuse.net (remove SPAM)
>> 2002 Jeep WJ 4 Liter Automatic
>> Sharing is why we are all here....... or should be.