Multiple fuel pump failures
11-08-2007, 08:42 AM
#71
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
DougW wrote:
> Retiredff wrote:
>> '89 YJ/ 258
>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles)
>>
>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just
>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07,
>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc.
>>
>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while
>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you
>> are way out in the middle of no where.
>>
>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem,
>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time.
>>
>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very
>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way
>> across.
>
> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes
> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric.
>
>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter
>> should answer that one.
>
> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
> electric pump and pressure regulator.
Doug-
Any idea what to look for in a lobe? Something I can see by looking at it
from the outside the block? I would sure hate if that was the problem, since
this re-man only has about 11,000 miles on it. Out of warrenty, though,
because of the time frame involved.
I thought about the electric pump last year, but failed very little on-line
that would help me with the process. This is a carbureted motor. Would it
work?
Larry
> Retiredff wrote:
>> '89 YJ/ 258
>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles)
>>
>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just
>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07,
>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc.
>>
>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while
>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you
>> are way out in the middle of no where.
>>
>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem,
>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time.
>>
>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very
>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way
>> across.
>
> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes
> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric.
>
>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter
>> should answer that one.
>
> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
> electric pump and pressure regulator.
Doug-
Any idea what to look for in a lobe? Something I can see by looking at it
from the outside the block? I would sure hate if that was the problem, since
this re-man only has about 11,000 miles on it. Out of warrenty, though,
because of the time frame involved.
I thought about the electric pump last year, but failed very little on-line
that would help me with the process. This is a carbureted motor. Would it
work?
Larry
11-08-2007, 08:42 AM
#72
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
DougW wrote:
> Retiredff wrote:
>> '89 YJ/ 258
>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles)
>>
>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just
>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07,
>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc.
>>
>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while
>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you
>> are way out in the middle of no where.
>>
>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem,
>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time.
>>
>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very
>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way
>> across.
>
> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes
> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric.
>
>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter
>> should answer that one.
>
> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
> electric pump and pressure regulator.
Doug-
Any idea what to look for in a lobe? Something I can see by looking at it
from the outside the block? I would sure hate if that was the problem, since
this re-man only has about 11,000 miles on it. Out of warrenty, though,
because of the time frame involved.
I thought about the electric pump last year, but failed very little on-line
that would help me with the process. This is a carbureted motor. Would it
work?
Larry
> Retiredff wrote:
>> '89 YJ/ 258
>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles)
>>
>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just
>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07,
>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc.
>>
>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while
>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you
>> are way out in the middle of no where.
>>
>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem,
>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time.
>>
>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very
>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way
>> across.
>
> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes
> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric.
>
>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter
>> should answer that one.
>
> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
> electric pump and pressure regulator.
Doug-
Any idea what to look for in a lobe? Something I can see by looking at it
from the outside the block? I would sure hate if that was the problem, since
this re-man only has about 11,000 miles on it. Out of warrenty, though,
because of the time frame involved.
I thought about the electric pump last year, but failed very little on-line
that would help me with the process. This is a carbureted motor. Would it
work?
Larry
11-08-2007, 08:42 AM
#73
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
DougW wrote:
> Retiredff wrote:
>> '89 YJ/ 258
>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles)
>>
>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just
>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07,
>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc.
>>
>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while
>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you
>> are way out in the middle of no where.
>>
>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem,
>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time.
>>
>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very
>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way
>> across.
>
> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes
> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric.
>
>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter
>> should answer that one.
>
> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
> electric pump and pressure regulator.
Doug-
Any idea what to look for in a lobe? Something I can see by looking at it
from the outside the block? I would sure hate if that was the problem, since
this re-man only has about 11,000 miles on it. Out of warrenty, though,
because of the time frame involved.
I thought about the electric pump last year, but failed very little on-line
that would help me with the process. This is a carbureted motor. Would it
work?
Larry
> Retiredff wrote:
>> '89 YJ/ 258
>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles)
>>
>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just
>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07,
>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc.
>>
>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while
>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you
>> are way out in the middle of no where.
>>
>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem,
>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time.
>>
>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very
>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way
>> across.
>
> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes
> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric.
>
>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter
>> should answer that one.
>
> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
> electric pump and pressure regulator.
Doug-
Any idea what to look for in a lobe? Something I can see by looking at it
from the outside the block? I would sure hate if that was the problem, since
this re-man only has about 11,000 miles on it. Out of warrenty, though,
because of the time frame involved.
I thought about the electric pump last year, but failed very little on-line
that would help me with the process. This is a carbureted motor. Would it
work?
Larry
11-08-2007, 08:43 AM
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
>>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
>>> electric pump and pressure regulator.
>>>
>>
>> ...and a rollover killswitch.
>
> oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor.
Not injected.
Larry
>>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
>>> electric pump and pressure regulator.
>>>
>>
>> ...and a rollover killswitch.
>
> oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor.
Not injected.
Larry
11-08-2007, 08:43 AM
#75
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
>>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
>>> electric pump and pressure regulator.
>>>
>>
>> ...and a rollover killswitch.
>
> oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor.
Not injected.
Larry
>>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
>>> electric pump and pressure regulator.
>>>
>>
>> ...and a rollover killswitch.
>
> oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor.
Not injected.
Larry
11-08-2007, 08:43 AM
#76
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
>>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
>>> electric pump and pressure regulator.
>>>
>>
>> ...and a rollover killswitch.
>
> oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor.
Not injected.
Larry
>>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an
>>> electric pump and pressure regulator.
>>>
>>
>> ...and a rollover killswitch.
>
> oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor.
Not injected.
Larry
11-08-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:12:02 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a
>carburetor.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Hey, two cell Cooyon, this is the secound time you have answered this
one! Stupid is, what Stupid does!
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you
>> know it. You're just just plain lazy.
>>
>> However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In
>> quadruplicate.
>>
>> Can you not tell the trvth about anything?
>>
>> Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing
>> for YOUR shortcomings?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> That's why you're Cooyon Billie.
>>
>> Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans?
>>
>> Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the
>> '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever.
>>
>> You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your
>> festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep.
>>
>> Go play with your goats.
>>
>> --
>
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a
>carburetor.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Hey, two cell Cooyon, this is the secound time you have answered this
one! Stupid is, what Stupid does!
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you
>> know it. You're just just plain lazy.
>>
>> However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In
>> quadruplicate.
>>
>> Can you not tell the trvth about anything?
>>
>> Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing
>> for YOUR shortcomings?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> That's why you're Cooyon Billie.
>>
>> Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans?
>>
>> Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the
>> '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever.
>>
>> You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your
>> festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep.
>>
>> Go play with your goats.
>>
>> --
>
11-08-2007, 10:33 AM
#78
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:12:02 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a
>carburetor.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Hey, two cell Cooyon, this is the secound time you have answered this
one! Stupid is, what Stupid does!
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you
>> know it. You're just just plain lazy.
>>
>> However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In
>> quadruplicate.
>>
>> Can you not tell the trvth about anything?
>>
>> Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing
>> for YOUR shortcomings?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> That's why you're Cooyon Billie.
>>
>> Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans?
>>
>> Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the
>> '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever.
>>
>> You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your
>> festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep.
>>
>> Go play with your goats.
>>
>> --
>
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a
>carburetor.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Hey, two cell Cooyon, this is the secound time you have answered this
one! Stupid is, what Stupid does!
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you
>> know it. You're just just plain lazy.
>>
>> However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In
>> quadruplicate.
>>
>> Can you not tell the trvth about anything?
>>
>> Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing
>> for YOUR shortcomings?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> That's why you're Cooyon Billie.
>>
>> Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans?
>>
>> Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the
>> '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever.
>>
>> You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your
>> festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep.
>>
>> Go play with your goats.
>>
>> --
>
11-08-2007, 10:33 AM
#79
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:08:39 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a
>carburetor.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Who cares, you didn't know the zipper goes in the front!
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you
>> know it. You're just just plain lazy.
>>
>> However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In
>> quadruplicate.
>>
>> Can you not tell the trvth about anything?
>>
>> Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing
>> for YOUR shortcomings?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> That's why you're Cooyon Billie.
>>
>> Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans?
>>
>> Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the
>> '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever.
>>
>> You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your
>> festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep.
>>
>> Go play with your goats.
>>
>> --
>
>
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a
>carburetor.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Who cares, you didn't know the zipper goes in the front!
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you
>> know it. You're just just plain lazy.
>>
>> However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In
>> quadruplicate.
>>
>> Can you not tell the trvth about anything?
>>
>> Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing
>> for YOUR shortcomings?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> That's why you're Cooyon Billie.
>>
>> Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans?
>>
>> Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the
>> '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever.
>>
>> You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your
>> festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep.
>>
>> Go play with your goats.
>>
>> --
>
>
11-08-2007, 10:33 AM
#80
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Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 18:08:39 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a
>carburetor.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Who cares, you didn't know the zipper goes in the front!
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you
>> know it. You're just just plain lazy.
>>
>> However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In
>> quadruplicate.
>>
>> Can you not tell the trvth about anything?
>>
>> Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing
>> for YOUR shortcomings?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> That's why you're Cooyon Billie.
>>
>> Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans?
>>
>> Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the
>> '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever.
>>
>> You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your
>> festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep.
>>
>> Go play with your goats.
>>
>> --
>
>
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:
> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a
>carburetor.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Who cares, you didn't know the zipper goes in the front!
>
>"Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message
>news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.c alm...
>>
>> What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you
>> know it. You're just just plain lazy.
>>
>> However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In
>> quadruplicate.
>>
>> Can you not tell the trvth about anything?
>>
>> Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing
>> for YOUR shortcomings?
>>
>> Of course not.
>>
>> That's why you're Cooyon Billie.
>>
>> Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans?
>>
>> Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans?
>>
>> Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the
>> '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever.
>>
>> You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your
>> festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep.
>>
>> Go play with your goats.
>>
>> --
>
>