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Multiple fuel pump failures
'89 YJ/ 258
313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you are way out in the middle of no where. I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way across. Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter should answer that one. Larry |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the lever
wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? Cheers, Earle "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, which > replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while driving, > but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you are way out in the > middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, so I > installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very narrow > wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way across. > > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter should > answer that one. > > Larry > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the lever
wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? Cheers, Earle "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, which > replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while driving, > but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you are way out in the > middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, so I > installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very narrow > wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way across. > > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter should > answer that one. > > Larry > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the lever
wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? Cheers, Earle "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, which > replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while driving, > but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you are way out in the > middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, so I > installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very narrow > wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way across. > > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter should > answer that one. > > Larry > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Earle,
I'm also thinking the wear mark just shows the lever was not correct. The others I replaced showed wear across the lever. The clear filter was just put on today, so stopped up was not the issue in the past. And, yes, it is a metal tank, which is what made me start thinking there might be a crud issue. Every time I replaced the pump, I also replaced the regular fuel filter at the carb, and there has never been any debris come out of it when I pour off the fuel from the filter. I also replaced all the short pieces of rubber fuel lines connecting everything together each time. As for the lines to and from the tank, I have not messed with them. To me, it would not make sense that they might be the trouble, just based on everything being trouble free, then sudden failure. But then, what do I know? When it fails, fuel flow drops to near zero when I take the line off of the carb filter and turn the motor over. When it is working, I get a strong flow from the line. Larry Earle Horton wrote: > That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the > lever wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage > that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a > lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do > protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is > a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of > nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? > > Cheers, > > Earle > > "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message > news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... >> '89 YJ/ 258 >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >> >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July >> '07, which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >> >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >> are way out in the middle of no where. >> >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >> >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >> across. >> >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The >> filter should answer that one. >> >> Larry |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Earle,
I'm also thinking the wear mark just shows the lever was not correct. The others I replaced showed wear across the lever. The clear filter was just put on today, so stopped up was not the issue in the past. And, yes, it is a metal tank, which is what made me start thinking there might be a crud issue. Every time I replaced the pump, I also replaced the regular fuel filter at the carb, and there has never been any debris come out of it when I pour off the fuel from the filter. I also replaced all the short pieces of rubber fuel lines connecting everything together each time. As for the lines to and from the tank, I have not messed with them. To me, it would not make sense that they might be the trouble, just based on everything being trouble free, then sudden failure. But then, what do I know? When it fails, fuel flow drops to near zero when I take the line off of the carb filter and turn the motor over. When it is working, I get a strong flow from the line. Larry Earle Horton wrote: > That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the > lever wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage > that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a > lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do > protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is > a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of > nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? > > Cheers, > > Earle > > "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message > news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... >> '89 YJ/ 258 >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >> >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July >> '07, which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >> >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >> are way out in the middle of no where. >> >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >> >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >> across. >> >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The >> filter should answer that one. >> >> Larry |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Earle,
I'm also thinking the wear mark just shows the lever was not correct. The others I replaced showed wear across the lever. The clear filter was just put on today, so stopped up was not the issue in the past. And, yes, it is a metal tank, which is what made me start thinking there might be a crud issue. Every time I replaced the pump, I also replaced the regular fuel filter at the carb, and there has never been any debris come out of it when I pour off the fuel from the filter. I also replaced all the short pieces of rubber fuel lines connecting everything together each time. As for the lines to and from the tank, I have not messed with them. To me, it would not make sense that they might be the trouble, just based on everything being trouble free, then sudden failure. But then, what do I know? When it fails, fuel flow drops to near zero when I take the line off of the carb filter and turn the motor over. When it is working, I get a strong flow from the line. Larry Earle Horton wrote: > That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the > lever wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage > that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a > lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do > protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is > a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of > nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? > > Cheers, > > Earle > > "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message > news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... >> '89 YJ/ 258 >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >> >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July >> '07, which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >> >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >> are way out in the middle of no where. >> >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >> >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >> across. >> >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The >> filter should answer that one. >> >> Larry |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
> '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, > which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while > driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you > are way out in the middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, > so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very > narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way > across. Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter > should answer that one. At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric pump and pressure regulator. -- DougW |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
> '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, > which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while > driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you > are way out in the middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, > so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very > narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way > across. Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter > should answer that one. At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric pump and pressure regulator. -- DougW |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
Retiredff wrote:
> '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, > which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while > driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you > are way out in the middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, > so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very > narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way > across. Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter > should answer that one. At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric pump and pressure regulator. -- DougW |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
DougW wrote:
> Retiredff wrote: >> '89 YJ/ 258 >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >> >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, >> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >> >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >> are way out in the middle of no where. >> >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >> >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >> across. > > Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes > and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. > >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter >> should answer that one. > > At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric > pump and pressure regulator. > ....and a rollover killswitch. |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
DougW wrote:
> Retiredff wrote: >> '89 YJ/ 258 >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >> >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, >> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >> >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >> are way out in the middle of no where. >> >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >> >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >> across. > > Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes > and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. > >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter >> should answer that one. > > At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric > pump and pressure regulator. > ....and a rollover killswitch. |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
DougW wrote:
> Retiredff wrote: >> '89 YJ/ 258 >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >> >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, >> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >> >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >> are way out in the middle of no where. >> >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >> >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >> across. > > Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes > and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. > >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter >> should answer that one. > > At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric > pump and pressure regulator. > ....and a rollover killswitch. |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
> DougW wrote: >> Retiredff wrote: >>> '89 YJ/ 258 >>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >>> >>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, >>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >>> >>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >>> are way out in the middle of no where. >>> >>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >>> >>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >>> across. >> >> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes >> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. >> >>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter >>> should answer that one. >> >> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric >> pump and pressure regulator. >> > > ...and a rollover killswitch. oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
> DougW wrote: >> Retiredff wrote: >>> '89 YJ/ 258 >>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >>> >>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, >>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >>> >>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >>> are way out in the middle of no where. >>> >>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >>> >>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >>> across. >> >> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes >> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. >> >>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter >>> should answer that one. >> >> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric >> pump and pressure regulator. >> > > ...and a rollover killswitch. oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
> DougW wrote: >> Retiredff wrote: >>> '89 YJ/ 258 >>> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) >>> >>> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just >>> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, >>> which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. >>> >>> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while >>> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you >>> are way out in the middle of no where. >>> >>> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, >>> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. >>> >>> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very >>> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way >>> across. >> >> Could be the pump lobe. My last chevy 305 V8 tended to wear lobes >> and after two pumps and one cam I went with an electric. >> >>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter >>> should answer that one. >> >> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an electric >> pump and pressure regulator. >> > > ...and a rollover killswitch. oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
If you don't have the correct fuel filter, with bypass back to the tank
is plugged, you'll cut the eccentric cam lobe off as Doug as said. And you have another filter inside the frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring. There's a shield you have to remove to get to it. They're shown in this parts view page: http://www.----------.com/temp/88yjFuelPump.pdf God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, which > replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while driving, > but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you are way out in the > middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, so I > installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very narrow > wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way across. > > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter should > answer that one. > > Larry > > |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
If you don't have the correct fuel filter, with bypass back to the tank
is plugged, you'll cut the eccentric cam lobe off as Doug as said. And you have another filter inside the frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring. There's a shield you have to remove to get to it. They're shown in this parts view page: http://www.----------.com/temp/88yjFuelPump.pdf God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, which > replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while driving, > but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you are way out in the > middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, so I > installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very narrow > wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way across. > > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter should > answer that one. > > Larry > > |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
If you don't have the correct fuel filter, with bypass back to the tank
is plugged, you'll cut the eccentric cam lobe off as Doug as said. And you have another filter inside the frame rail, on the drivers side above the front half of the spring. There's a shield you have to remove to get to it. They're shown in this parts view page: http://www.----------.com/temp/88yjFuelPump.pdf God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > '89 YJ/ 258 > 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > > Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July '07, which > replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > > So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while driving, > but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you are way out in the > middle of no where. > > I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, so I > installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > > One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very narrow > wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way across. > > Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The filter should > answer that one. > > Larry > > |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
You're dyslexic, too we can't see it even if we proof read.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message news:5grYi.3218$3Z2.1199@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com... > > oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
You're dyslexic, too we can't see it even if we proof read.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message news:5grYi.3218$3Z2.1199@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com... > > oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
You're dyslexic, too we can't see it even if we proof read.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "clay" <clay@mation.com> wrote in message news:5grYi.3218$3Z2.1199@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com... > > oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
The fuel tank will also have short rubber hoses connecting it to the
steel lines that run along the frame rails. A tiny suction leak could be the root of your problem. Metal tanks are bad news if you live in a high humidity area. I am wondering myself how long the polyethylene tanks last though. If you are retired and have time, well drop the tank and replace all the rubber that is associated with it. Then take a look inside with a flashlight. They put ethanol in the fuel now too, which might not be compatible with the fuel pump internals you are getting. I don't know what you could do about that though, except maybe switch brands of supplier. Good luck, Earle "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j4am02r8nqg6a@corp.supernews.com... > Earle, > > I'm also thinking the wear mark just shows the lever was not correct. The > others I replaced showed wear across the lever. > > The clear filter was just put on today, so stopped up was not the issue in > the past. And, yes, it is a metal tank, which is what made me start thinking > there might be a crud issue. > > Every time I replaced the pump, I also replaced the regular fuel filter at > the carb, and there has never been any debris come out of it when I pour off > the fuel from the filter. I also replaced all the short pieces of rubber > fuel lines connecting everything together each time. > > As for the lines to and from the tank, I have not messed with them. To me, > it would not make sense that they might be the trouble, just based on > everything being trouble free, then sudden failure. But then, what do I > know? > > When it fails, fuel flow drops to near zero when I take the line off of the > carb filter and turn the motor over. When it is working, I get a strong flow > from the line. > > Larry > > Earle Horton wrote: > > That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the > > lever wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage > > that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a > > lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do > > protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is > > a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of > > nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Earle > > > > "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message > > news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > >> '89 YJ/ 258 > >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > >> > >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July > >> '07, which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > >> > >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while > >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you > >> are way out in the middle of no where. > >> > >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, > >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > >> > >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very > >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way > >> across. > >> > >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The > >> filter should answer that one. > >> > >> Larry > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
The fuel tank will also have short rubber hoses connecting it to the
steel lines that run along the frame rails. A tiny suction leak could be the root of your problem. Metal tanks are bad news if you live in a high humidity area. I am wondering myself how long the polyethylene tanks last though. If you are retired and have time, well drop the tank and replace all the rubber that is associated with it. Then take a look inside with a flashlight. They put ethanol in the fuel now too, which might not be compatible with the fuel pump internals you are getting. I don't know what you could do about that though, except maybe switch brands of supplier. Good luck, Earle "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j4am02r8nqg6a@corp.supernews.com... > Earle, > > I'm also thinking the wear mark just shows the lever was not correct. The > others I replaced showed wear across the lever. > > The clear filter was just put on today, so stopped up was not the issue in > the past. And, yes, it is a metal tank, which is what made me start thinking > there might be a crud issue. > > Every time I replaced the pump, I also replaced the regular fuel filter at > the carb, and there has never been any debris come out of it when I pour off > the fuel from the filter. I also replaced all the short pieces of rubber > fuel lines connecting everything together each time. > > As for the lines to and from the tank, I have not messed with them. To me, > it would not make sense that they might be the trouble, just based on > everything being trouble free, then sudden failure. But then, what do I > know? > > When it fails, fuel flow drops to near zero when I take the line off of the > carb filter and turn the motor over. When it is working, I get a strong flow > from the line. > > Larry > > Earle Horton wrote: > > That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the > > lever wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage > > that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a > > lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do > > protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is > > a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of > > nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Earle > > > > "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message > > news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > >> '89 YJ/ 258 > >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > >> > >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July > >> '07, which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > >> > >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while > >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you > >> are way out in the middle of no where. > >> > >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, > >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > >> > >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very > >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way > >> across. > >> > >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The > >> filter should answer that one. > >> > >> Larry > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
The fuel tank will also have short rubber hoses connecting it to the
steel lines that run along the frame rails. A tiny suction leak could be the root of your problem. Metal tanks are bad news if you live in a high humidity area. I am wondering myself how long the polyethylene tanks last though. If you are retired and have time, well drop the tank and replace all the rubber that is associated with it. Then take a look inside with a flashlight. They put ethanol in the fuel now too, which might not be compatible with the fuel pump internals you are getting. I don't know what you could do about that though, except maybe switch brands of supplier. Good luck, Earle "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message news:13j4am02r8nqg6a@corp.supernews.com... > Earle, > > I'm also thinking the wear mark just shows the lever was not correct. The > others I replaced showed wear across the lever. > > The clear filter was just put on today, so stopped up was not the issue in > the past. And, yes, it is a metal tank, which is what made me start thinking > there might be a crud issue. > > Every time I replaced the pump, I also replaced the regular fuel filter at > the carb, and there has never been any debris come out of it when I pour off > the fuel from the filter. I also replaced all the short pieces of rubber > fuel lines connecting everything together each time. > > As for the lines to and from the tank, I have not messed with them. To me, > it would not make sense that they might be the trouble, just based on > everything being trouble free, then sudden failure. But then, what do I > know? > > When it fails, fuel flow drops to near zero when I take the line off of the > carb filter and turn the motor over. When it is working, I get a strong flow > from the line. > > Larry > > Earle Horton wrote: > > That narrow wear mark could be the cam going bad or just that the > > lever wasn't made properly. Suction filters have the disadvantage > > that pressure loss in the suction side is going to hurt performance a > > lot more than in the pressure side. On the other hand they do > > protect the filter from crud. Is the filter stopped up? If that is > > a metal fuel tank, which I think it is, then it is probably full of > > nasty stuff. How about the fuel lines? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Earle > > > > "Retiredff" <lbatter@bogfeet.net> wrote in message > > news:13j414g88o5j045@corp.supernews.com... > >> '89 YJ/ 258 > >> 313,000+ miles (re-man motor 11,000+ miles) > >> > >> Over the last few years, I have had several fuel pumps fail. I just > >> replaced one that failed yesterday, which replaced one from July > >> '07, which replaced one from Oct. '06, etc. > >> > >> So far, they have always failed at start-up, so no problems while > >> driving, but it can be a little scary to think 'what if' while you > >> are way out in the middle of no where. > >> > >> I started wondering if crud from the fuel tank might be the problem, > >> so I installed a clear filter just prior to the pump this time. > >> > >> One thing I noticed on this one was that the lever only had a very > >> narrow wear mark (at the most, 1/16") on it, instead of all the way > >> across. > >> > >> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The > >> filter should answer that one. > >> > >> Larry > > > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
> clay wrote: >> DougW wrote: >>> Retiredff wrote: >>>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The >>>> filter should answer that one. >>> >>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an >>> electric pump and pressure regulator. >>> >> >> ...and a rollover killswitch. > > oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. Nah, your right. With any electric you should have a rollover switch, engine interlock, or at least a panic kill switch. -- DougW |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
> clay wrote: >> DougW wrote: >>> Retiredff wrote: >>>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The >>>> filter should answer that one. >>> >>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an >>> electric pump and pressure regulator. >>> >> >> ...and a rollover killswitch. > > oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. Nah, your right. With any electric you should have a rollover switch, engine interlock, or at least a panic kill switch. -- DougW |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
clay wrote:
> clay wrote: >> DougW wrote: >>> Retiredff wrote: >>>> Any ideas other then I need to pull the tank and clean it? The >>>> filter should answer that one. >>> >>> At this point I'd just slap on a blockoff plate and install an >>> electric pump and pressure regulator. >>> >> >> ...and a rollover killswitch. > > oops. Guess you wouldn't need one on an injected motor. Nah, your right. With any electric you should have a rollover switch, engine interlock, or at least a panic kill switch. -- DougW |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:04:31 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You're dyslexic, too What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you know it. You're just just plain lazy. However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In quadruplicate. Can you not tell the trvth about anything? Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing for YOUR shortcomings? Of course not. That's why you're Cooyon Billie. Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese? Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans? Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans? Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever. You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep. Go play with your goats. -- A closed mind is like a closed book: just a block of wood. -Chinese Proverb |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:04:31 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You're dyslexic, too What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you know it. You're just just plain lazy. However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In quadruplicate. Can you not tell the trvth about anything? Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing for YOUR shortcomings? Of course not. That's why you're Cooyon Billie. Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese? Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans? Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans? Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever. You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep. Go play with your goats. -- A closed mind is like a closed book: just a block of wood. -Chinese Proverb |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:04:31 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> You're dyslexic, too What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you know it. You're just just plain lazy. However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In quadruplicate. Can you not tell the trvth about anything? Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing for YOUR shortcomings? Of course not. That's why you're Cooyon Billie. Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese? Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans? Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans? Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever. You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep. Go play with your goats. -- A closed mind is like a closed book: just a block of wood. -Chinese Proverb |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:56:40 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> If you don't have the correct fuel filter, with bypass back to the tank > is plugged, you'll cut the eccentric cam lobe off as Doug as said. Then why are you repeating it? So everyone will think you're a smart as Doug? Won't work, everyone knows all you are is a collection of links and no original thoughts or ideas. Poor little Bill. -- A closed mind is like a closed book: just a block of wood. -Chinese Proverb |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:56:40 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> If you don't have the correct fuel filter, with bypass back to the tank > is plugged, you'll cut the eccentric cam lobe off as Doug as said. Then why are you repeating it? So everyone will think you're a smart as Doug? Won't work, everyone knows all you are is a collection of links and no original thoughts or ideas. Poor little Bill. -- A closed mind is like a closed book: just a block of wood. -Chinese Proverb |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:56:40 -0800, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> If you don't have the correct fuel filter, with bypass back to the tank > is plugged, you'll cut the eccentric cam lobe off as Doug as said. Then why are you repeating it? So everyone will think you're a smart as Doug? Won't work, everyone knows all you are is a collection of links and no original thoughts or ideas. Poor little Bill. -- A closed mind is like a closed book: just a block of wood. -Chinese Proverb |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a carburetor. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.ca lm... > > What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you > know it. You're just just plain lazy. > > However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In > quadruplicate. > > Can you not tell the trvth about anything? > > Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing > for YOUR shortcomings? > > Of course not. > > That's why you're Cooyon Billie. > > Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese? > > Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans? > > Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans? > > Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the > '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever. > > You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your > festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep. > > Go play with your goats. > > -- |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a carburetor. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.ca lm... > > What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you > know it. You're just just plain lazy. > > However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In > quadruplicate. > > Can you not tell the trvth about anything? > > Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing > for YOUR shortcomings? > > Of course not. > > That's why you're Cooyon Billie. > > Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese? > > Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans? > > Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans? > > Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the > '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever. > > You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your > festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep. > > Go play with your goats. > > -- |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> This stupid ------ is jealous over not knowing an 89 YJ six still uses a carburetor. God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.11.07.22.35.09.516571@trepanation.ca lm... > > What's this 'too' crap? You are NOT dyslexic at all, Billdo, and you > know it. You're just just plain lazy. > > However, an expert on multiple failures, that you certainly are. In > quadruplicate. > > Can you not tell the trvth about anything? > > Can you get through an entire day without blaming some one or some thing > for YOUR shortcomings? > > Of course not. > > That's why you're Cooyon Billie. > > Who do you blame for your impotency? The Japanese? > > Who do you blame for your homosexuality? The Germans? > > Who do you blame for your general stupidity? The Mexicans? > > Everything else you blame on Your Usual [nonexistent] Suspects, the > '------, girly, cowardly trolls' or whatever. > > You're even embarrassing to common mold. And they too wish you'd shut your > festering gob once in a while. They could use some sleep. > > Go play with your goats. > > -- |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.11.07.23.08.55.69926@trepanation.cal m... > > Then why are you repeating it? So everyone will think you're a smart as > Doug? > > Won't work, everyone knows all you are is a collection of links and no > original thoughts or ideas. > > Poor little Bill. > > > -- |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.11.07.23.08.55.69926@trepanation.cal m... > > Then why are you repeating it? So everyone will think you're a smart as > Doug? > > Won't work, everyone knows all you are is a collection of links and no > original thoughts or ideas. > > Poor little Bill. > > > -- |
Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
This from the biggest spammer of them all! The jealous, really weak
jealous, I can't believe how jealous this little draft dodging coward schizophrenic psychopath liar was hiding in Vancouver via S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca until I killed it. Now he's using another IP of 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self using foul language, like it did back in elementary school yard. But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on responsibility like a grown up. With an obsession with perverts and goats, where it writes via remailers, @news.alt.net, and cross posts to other perverts to no one's surprise. With extreme jealous ranting over my documents, possessions, successes, manliness and fine, Southern California surfing body, beard, and loving Christian family. Committing forgery over many of my posts, proving I'm a responsible American man. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking, me too, me too. You're even more senile than I first thought. And the poor thing, you're too girlie to take responsibility for yourself again, by signing your statement like a man. That really thinks the group's members are so stupid not to know it's the same coward, posting over and over again using a schizophrenic psychopath forged up names? You're not worth any more time when a cut and paste this same paragraphs it fits so well! But, now worth a forwarding to: internet.help@shaw.ca, security@shaw.ca, abuse@shaw.ca, internet.abuse@sjrb.ca, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net for forgery. Who said it also likes baby monkeys sucking their -----, like his buddy posted on an auto picture group at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com I thought this traitor's attacks were just over personal disagreements, but in reality these attacks stemming from my love of God and America on Independents Week, I realized you are actually attacking my country, and that's what you've been doing all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly and stupid to be a ---------. It's America, love it, or leave it, so keep the f*ck out! Or let me know when you cross my American border, so I may arrest you! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and lost all rights to my American border, and someday I'll have you in jail where you belong! Any time, I'll fly and meant with other patriots guarding our borders against vermin like you. Why don't you call the San Diego Sheriffs Department at 858-974-2020 YOU NEED HELP! The moral majority say you are not only faggots, but cowards You wouldn't know about business as you have never succeeded and anything. Tell me when you are about to cross my American border and I'll fly up and arrange at meeting with the U.S. Border patrol and Minutemen for your arrest, after you give me your name, address, date, and meeting place. I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel: shaw.ca 24.80.200.127 s0106000ea6ba70e7.vc.shawcable.net intrepidator@shaw.ca and 24bit: 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or LW------@------.net Sincerely, Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm. You are the one that ran to Canada from your obligation to the U.S. Military! YOU ARE A TRAITOR and a COWARD!!!!!! Totally lacking in common sense. You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your pursuing fag names, as fake as you. Just making sure the faggots at: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures groups know what an a**hole you, aka SW really are!!!!! God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority! <ROTFLMAO> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "Pink Freud©®" <drive-in-lobotomies@trepanation.calm> wrote in message news:pan.2007.11.07.23.08.55.69926@trepanation.cal m... > > Then why are you repeating it? So everyone will think you're a smart as > Doug? > > Won't work, everyone knows all you are is a collection of links and no > original thoughts or ideas. > > Poor little Bill. > > > -- |
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