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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-10-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you coward,
may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130...
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
> discussion du jour ...
>
> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else face
> retribution from them who have death rays and other means of
> getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme distances. no,
> not me, dummy, I mean the person you're replying to. I am still
> waiting, though, for you to show that you are NOT the COWARD we
> all know you to be, and come on over to Troy and talk to me and
> my neighbors in person. you know, like my friend that lives in
> the house you think is really mine, but isn't. he especially
> would like to meet you and has a most gratious reception in mind
> to celebrate your traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>
>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-10-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you coward,
may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130...
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
> discussion du jour ...
>
> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else face
> retribution from them who have death rays and other means of
> getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme distances. no,
> not me, dummy, I mean the person you're replying to. I am still
> waiting, though, for you to show that you are NOT the COWARD we
> all know you to be, and come on over to Troy and talk to me and
> my neighbors in person. you know, like my friend that lives in
> the house you think is really mine, but isn't. he especially
> would like to meet you and has a most gratious reception in mind
> to celebrate your traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>
>




L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-10-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you coward,
may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130...
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
> discussion du jour ...
>
> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else face
> retribution from them who have death rays and other means of
> getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme distances. no,
> not me, dummy, I mean the person you're replying to. I am still
> waiting, though, for you to show that you are NOT the COWARD we
> all know you to be, and come on over to Troy and talk to me and
> my neighbors in person. you know, like my friend that lives in
> the house you think is really mine, but isn't. he especially
> would like to meet you and has a most gratious reception in mind
> to celebrate your traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>
>




HEMI-Powered 11-10-2007 06:15 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
discussion du jour ...

all of your inane, insane, senile, and delusional babble copy-
pasted below is entirely wrong. why don't you come here and see
for yourself, but you won't, will you? No, COWARD and cuntie, you
don't have the guts to come here and confront me in person. I'd
say "if you had a pair", but I know you don't have balls, that
would take being a man. instead, you have a teenie, weenie little
cuntie, you queer dyke - and COWARD.

> There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald
> howard the COWARD
> Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248)
> 828-7693 pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108
> jrivers@comcast.net who's only way to get attention is to make
> a fool of it's self over my documents (honorable discharge
> DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern
> California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
> have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed
> at your attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
> grounds, but it's just gibberish. Too senile to remember what
> he last wrote. Like a little rat dog, Mexican chiwawa barking
> it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
> You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet.
> But you coward,
> may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
> http://www.----------.com/map.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
> news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130...
>> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
>> discussion du jour ...
>>
>> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else
>> face retribution from them who have death rays and other
>> means of getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme
>> distances. no, not me, dummy, I mean the person you're
>> replying to. I am still waiting, though, for you to show that
>> you are NOT the COWARD we all know you to be, and come on
>> over to Troy and talk to me and my neighbors in person. you
>> know, like my friend that lives in the house you think is
>> really mine, but isn't. he especially would like to meet you
>> and has a most gratious reception in mind to celebrate your
>> traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>>
>>

>
>
>




--
HP, aka Jerry

HEMI-Powered 11-10-2007 06:15 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
discussion du jour ...

all of your inane, insane, senile, and delusional babble copy-
pasted below is entirely wrong. why don't you come here and see
for yourself, but you won't, will you? No, COWARD and cuntie, you
don't have the guts to come here and confront me in person. I'd
say "if you had a pair", but I know you don't have balls, that
would take being a man. instead, you have a teenie, weenie little
cuntie, you queer dyke - and COWARD.

> There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald
> howard the COWARD
> Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248)
> 828-7693 pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108
> jrivers@comcast.net who's only way to get attention is to make
> a fool of it's self over my documents (honorable discharge
> DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern
> California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
> have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed
> at your attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
> grounds, but it's just gibberish. Too senile to remember what
> he last wrote. Like a little rat dog, Mexican chiwawa barking
> it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
> You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet.
> But you coward,
> may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
> http://www.----------.com/map.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
> news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130...
>> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
>> discussion du jour ...
>>
>> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else
>> face retribution from them who have death rays and other
>> means of getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme
>> distances. no, not me, dummy, I mean the person you're
>> replying to. I am still waiting, though, for you to show that
>> you are NOT the COWARD we all know you to be, and come on
>> over to Troy and talk to me and my neighbors in person. you
>> know, like my friend that lives in the house you think is
>> really mine, but isn't. he especially would like to meet you
>> and has a most gratious reception in mind to celebrate your
>> traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>>
>>

>
>
>




--
HP, aka Jerry

HEMI-Powered 11-10-2007 06:15 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
discussion du jour ...

all of your inane, insane, senile, and delusional babble copy-
pasted below is entirely wrong. why don't you come here and see
for yourself, but you won't, will you? No, COWARD and cuntie, you
don't have the guts to come here and confront me in person. I'd
say "if you had a pair", but I know you don't have balls, that
would take being a man. instead, you have a teenie, weenie little
cuntie, you queer dyke - and COWARD.

> There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald
> howard the COWARD
> Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248)
> 828-7693 pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108
> jrivers@comcast.net who's only way to get attention is to make
> a fool of it's self over my documents (honorable discharge
> DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and super Southern
> California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
> have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed
> at your attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
> grounds, but it's just gibberish. Too senile to remember what
> he last wrote. Like a little rat dog, Mexican chiwawa barking
> it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
> You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet.
> But you coward,
> may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
> http://www.----------.com/map.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
> news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130...
>> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
>> discussion du jour ...
>>
>> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else
>> face retribution from them who have death rays and other
>> means of getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme
>> distances. no, not me, dummy, I mean the person you're
>> replying to. I am still waiting, though, for you to show that
>> you are NOT the COWARD we all know you to be, and come on
>> over to Troy and talk to me and my neighbors in person. you
>> know, like my friend that lives in the house you think is
>> really mine, but isn't. he especially would like to meet you
>> and has a most gratious reception in mind to celebrate your
>> traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>>
>>

>
>
>




--
HP, aka Jerry

Dr.Neuraxis® 11-10-2007 10:48 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:34:28 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
>Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
>pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
>who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
>documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
>super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
>have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
>attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
>just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
>dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
> You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you coward,
>may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
>http://www.----------.com/map.htm
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------


You just make friends everywhere you go Cooyon.
>
>"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
>news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130. ..
>> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
>> discussion du jour ...
>>
>> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else face
>> retribution from them who have death rays and other means of
>> getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme distances. no,
>> not me, dummy, I mean the person you're replying to. I am still
>> waiting, though, for you to show that you are NOT the COWARD we
>> all know you to be, and come on over to Troy and talk to me and
>> my neighbors in person. you know, like my friend that lives in
>> the house you think is really mine, but isn't. he especially
>> would like to meet you and has a most gratious reception in mind
>> to celebrate your traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>>
>>

>


Dr.Neuraxis® 11-10-2007 10:48 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:34:28 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
>Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
>pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
>who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
>documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
>super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
>have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
>attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
>just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
>dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
> You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you coward,
>may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
>http://www.----------.com/map.htm
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------


You just make friends everywhere you go Cooyon.
>
>"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
>news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130. ..
>> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
>> discussion du jour ...
>>
>> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else face
>> retribution from them who have death rays and other means of
>> getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme distances. no,
>> not me, dummy, I mean the person you're replying to. I am still
>> waiting, though, for you to show that you are NOT the COWARD we
>> all know you to be, and come on over to Troy and talk to me and
>> my neighbors in person. you know, like my friend that lives in
>> the house you think is really mine, but isn't. he especially
>> would like to meet you and has a most gratious reception in mind
>> to celebrate your traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>>
>>

>


Dr.Neuraxis® 11-10-2007 10:48 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 22:34:28 -0800, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
>Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
>pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
>who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
>documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
>super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
>have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
>attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
>just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
>dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
> You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you coward,
>may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
>http://www.----------.com/map.htm
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:--------------------


You just make friends everywhere you go Cooyon.
>
>"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.en> wrote in message
>news:Xns99E4E024B48EReplyScoreID@140.99.99.130. ..
>> L.W. (Bill) ------ III added these comments in the current
>> discussion du jour ...
>>
>> you shouuld be very wary of whacking on this person, else face
>> retribution from them who have death rays and other means of
>> getting to you with overwhelming power at extreme distances. no,
>> not me, dummy, I mean the person you're replying to. I am still
>> waiting, though, for you to show that you are NOT the COWARD we
>> all know you to be, and come on over to Troy and talk to me and
>> my neighbors in person. you know, like my friend that lives in
>> the house you think is really mine, but isn't. he especially
>> would like to meet you and has a most gratious reception in mind
>> to celebrate your traveling from the land of the queers to MI.
>>
>>

>


Dave Milne 11-10-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms you
describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure builds
up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle stalls
and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.

Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
it.

Dave.

"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Retiredff wrote:

> >
> > >> It failed again.

> >
> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.

> >
> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.

> >
> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > > normally get it going again.

> >
> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...

> >
> > > Mike

> >
> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

off
> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

of
> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

that it
> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
> >
> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

that
> > makes sense to me.
> >
> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me

to
> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

Provided,
> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
> >
> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
> >
> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

in
> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Retired,
>
> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>
> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>
> Jon
>




Dave Milne 11-10-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms you
describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure builds
up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle stalls
and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.

Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
it.

Dave.

"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Retiredff wrote:

> >
> > >> It failed again.

> >
> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.

> >
> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.

> >
> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > > normally get it going again.

> >
> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...

> >
> > > Mike

> >
> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

off
> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

of
> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

that it
> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
> >
> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

that
> > makes sense to me.
> >
> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me

to
> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

Provided,
> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
> >
> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
> >
> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

in
> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Retired,
>
> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>
> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>
> Jon
>




Dave Milne 11-10-2007 04:25 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms you
describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure builds
up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle stalls
and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.

Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
it.

Dave.

"Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> > Mike Romain wrote:
> > > Retiredff wrote:

> >
> > >> It failed again.

> >
> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.

> >
> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't up
> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.

> >
> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> > > normally get it going again.

> >
> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...

> >
> > > Mike

> >
> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

off
> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you would
> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

of
> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

that it
> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
> >
> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

that
> > makes sense to me.
> >
> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced me

to
> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

Provided,
> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
> >
> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
> >
> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

in
> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Retired,
>
> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>
> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>
> Jon
>




Earle Horton 11-10-2007 10:53 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could be
the problem.

Cheers,

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> you
> describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> builds
> up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> stalls
> and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
> 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
>
> Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
> it.
>
> Dave.
>
> "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> > > Retiredff wrote:
>> >
>> > >> It failed again.
>> >
>> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>> >
>> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
>> > > up
>> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>> >
>> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> > > normally get it going again.
>> >
>> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>> >
>> > > Mike
>> >
>> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

> off
>> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
>> > would
>> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

> of
>> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> that it
>> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
>> >
>> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> that
>> > makes sense to me.
>> >
>> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
>> > me

> to
>> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> Provided,
>> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>> >
>> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
>> >
>> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

> in
>> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Retired,
>>
>> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
>> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
>> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
>> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
>> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
>> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
>> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>>
>> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
>> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
>> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
>> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>>
>> Jon
>>

>
>




Earle Horton 11-10-2007 10:53 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could be
the problem.

Cheers,

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> you
> describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> builds
> up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> stalls
> and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
> 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
>
> Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
> it.
>
> Dave.
>
> "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> > > Retiredff wrote:
>> >
>> > >> It failed again.
>> >
>> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>> >
>> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
>> > > up
>> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>> >
>> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> > > normally get it going again.
>> >
>> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>> >
>> > > Mike
>> >
>> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

> off
>> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
>> > would
>> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

> of
>> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> that it
>> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
>> >
>> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> that
>> > makes sense to me.
>> >
>> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
>> > me

> to
>> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> Provided,
>> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>> >
>> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
>> >
>> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

> in
>> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Retired,
>>
>> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
>> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
>> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
>> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
>> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
>> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
>> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>>
>> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
>> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
>> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
>> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>>
>> Jon
>>

>
>




Earle Horton 11-10-2007 10:53 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could be
the problem.

Cheers,

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> you
> describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> builds
> up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> stalls
> and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
> 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
>
> Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
> it.
>
> Dave.
>
> "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> > > Retiredff wrote:
>> >
>> > >> It failed again.
>> >
>> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>> >
>> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
>> > > up
>> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>> >
>> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> > > normally get it going again.
>> >
>> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>> >
>> > > Mike
>> >
>> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

> off
>> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
>> > would
>> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

> of
>> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> that it
>> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
>> >
>> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> that
>> > makes sense to me.
>> >
>> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
>> > me

> to
>> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> Provided,
>> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>> >
>> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
>> >
>> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

> in
>> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Retired,
>>
>> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
>> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
>> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
>> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
>> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
>> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
>> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>>
>> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
>> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
>> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
>> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>>
>> Jon
>>

>
>




Earle Horton 11-10-2007 11:14 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could
indeed be the problem.

Cheers,

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> you
> describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> builds
> up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> stalls
> and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
> 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
>
> Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
> it.
>
> Dave.
>
> "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> > > Retiredff wrote:
>> >
>> > >> It failed again.
>> >
>> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>> >
>> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
>> > > up
>> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>> >
>> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> > > normally get it going again.
>> >
>> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>> >
>> > > Mike
>> >
>> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

> off
>> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
>> > would
>> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

> of
>> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> that it
>> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
>> >
>> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> that
>> > makes sense to me.
>> >
>> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
>> > me

> to
>> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> Provided,
>> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>> >
>> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
>> >
>> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

> in
>> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Retired,
>>
>> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
>> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
>> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
>> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
>> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
>> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
>> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>>
>> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
>> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
>> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
>> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>>
>> Jon
>>

>
>





Earle Horton 11-10-2007 11:14 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could
indeed be the problem.

Cheers,

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> you
> describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> builds
> up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> stalls
> and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
> 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
>
> Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
> it.
>
> Dave.
>
> "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> > > Retiredff wrote:
>> >
>> > >> It failed again.
>> >
>> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>> >
>> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
>> > > up
>> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>> >
>> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> > > normally get it going again.
>> >
>> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>> >
>> > > Mike
>> >
>> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

> off
>> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
>> > would
>> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

> of
>> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> that it
>> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
>> >
>> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> that
>> > makes sense to me.
>> >
>> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
>> > me

> to
>> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> Provided,
>> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>> >
>> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
>> >
>> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

> in
>> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Retired,
>>
>> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
>> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
>> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
>> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
>> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
>> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
>> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>>
>> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
>> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
>> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
>> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>>
>> Jon
>>

>
>





Earle Horton 11-10-2007 11:14 PM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could
indeed be the problem.

Cheers,

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> you
> describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> builds
> up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> stalls
> and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for another
> 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
>
> Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to diagnose
> it.
>
> Dave.
>
> "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
>> > Mike Romain wrote:
>> > > Retiredff wrote:
>> >
>> > >> It failed again.
>> >
>> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
>> >
>> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and the
>> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
>> > > up
>> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the pump.
>> >
>> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
>> > > normally get it going again.
>> >
>> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
>> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
>> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
>> >
>> > > Mike
>> >
>> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it is

> off
>> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
>> > would
>> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important piece

> of
>> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> that it
>> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
>> >
>> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> that
>> > makes sense to me.
>> >
>> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
>> > me

> to
>> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> Provided,
>> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
>> >
>> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
>> >
>> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two dealers

> in
>> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Retired,
>>
>> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
>> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
>> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
>> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
>> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
>> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
>> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
>>
>> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
>> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
>> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
>> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
>>
>> Jon
>>

>
>





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 01:33 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you
coward, may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
news:Xns99E43F9CD9E34ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...
>
> all of your inane, insane, senile, and delusional babble copy-
> pasted below is entirely wrong. why don't you come here and see
> for yourself, but you won't, will you? No, COWARD and cuntie, you
> don't have the guts to come here and confront me in person. I'd
> say "if you had a pair", but I know you don't have balls, that
> would take being a man. instead, you have a teenie, weenie little
> cuntie, you queer dyke - and COWARD.
>
>





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 01:33 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you
coward, may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
news:Xns99E43F9CD9E34ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...
>
> all of your inane, insane, senile, and delusional babble copy-
> pasted below is entirely wrong. why don't you come here and see
> for yourself, but you won't, will you? No, COWARD and cuntie, you
> don't have the guts to come here and confront me in person. I'd
> say "if you had a pair", but I know you don't have balls, that
> would take being a man. instead, you have a teenie, weenie little
> cuntie, you queer dyke - and COWARD.
>
>





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 01:33 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little jealous coward, gerald howard the COWARD
Rivers 61 5612 Martell Dr., Troy, Michigan 48085-3159 (248) 828-7693
pcp02841857pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net 68.85.144.108 jrivers@comcast.net
who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of it's self over my
documents (honorable discharge DD214) possessions, successes, manliness and
super Southern California surfing body. With this goat obsession/fetish you
have with your queer buddies. Like when the other kids laughed at your
attempt to use foul language in elementary school play grounds, but it's
just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote. Like a little rat
dog, Mexican chiwawa barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet. But you
coward, may visit me in God's country, and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"HEMI-Powered" <none@none.sn> wrote in message
news:Xns99E43F9CD9E34ReplyScoreID@216.168.3.30...
>
> all of your inane, insane, senile, and delusional babble copy-
> pasted below is entirely wrong. why don't you come here and see
> for yourself, but you won't, will you? No, COWARD and cuntie, you
> don't have the guts to come here and confront me in person. I'd
> say "if you had a pair", but I know you don't have balls, that
> would take being a man. instead, you have a teenie, weenie little
> cuntie, you queer dyke - and COWARD.
>
>





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
All you little schizophrenic psychopath 24wimp:
http://www.----------.com/temp/24wimpIndiana.jpg liars having as much fun as
I'm having forwarding your groups?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Dr.---------" <DN@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
news:97hbj318elnrn4a4o2dbngvv490vvhj3bt@4ax.com...
>
> You just make friends everywhere you go Cooyon.
>






L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
All you little schizophrenic psychopath 24wimp:
http://www.----------.com/temp/24wimpIndiana.jpg liars having as much fun as
I'm having forwarding your groups?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Dr.---------" <DN@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
news:97hbj318elnrn4a4o2dbngvv490vvhj3bt@4ax.com...
>
> You just make friends everywhere you go Cooyon.
>






L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-11-2007 01:34 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. It doesn't have a DD214, it had to have served our country
for that. Who's only way to get attention is to make a fool of its self,
with its goat obsession/fetish, where it writes via remailers, to no one's
surprise. Like when the other kids laughed at its attempt to use foul
language in elementary school play grounds, but its just gibberish. Too
senile to remember what he last wrote, like the rest of Florida. You remind
me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican Chiwawa with its senseless barking
it's rabid head off, me too, me too. And is too afraid to use your name,
address, or even sign your statement as any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
And you think the news members won't catch on and be able to see your
pursuing fag names, as fake as you.
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
All you little schizophrenic psychopath 24wimp:
http://www.----------.com/temp/24wimpIndiana.jpg liars having as much fun as
I'm having forwarding your groups?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Dr.---------" <DN@CentralPain.org> wrote in message
news:97hbj318elnrn4a4o2dbngvv490vvhj3bt@4ax.com...
>
> You just make friends everywhere you go Cooyon.
>






Dave Milne 11-11-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
That would be me not paying proper attention ! Still think the principle is
sound enough to warrant investigation if stumped / more cash outlay is
required.

Cheers,
Dave

"Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fh74s1$bqi$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
> Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could
> indeed be the problem.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> > you
> > describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> > builds
> > up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> > stalls
> > and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for

another
> > 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
> >
> > Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to

diagnose
> > it.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> > "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> >> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> > > Retiredff wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> It failed again.
> >> >
> >> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
> >> >
> >> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and

the
> >> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
> >> > > up
> >> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the

pump.
> >> >
> >> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> >> > > normally get it going again.
> >> >
> >> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> >> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> >> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
> >> >
> >> > > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it

is
> > off
> >> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
> >> > would
> >> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important

piece
> > of
> >> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> > that it
> >> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
> >> >
> >> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> > that
> >> > makes sense to me.
> >> >
> >> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
> >> > me

> > to
> >> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> > Provided,
> >> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
> >> >
> >> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
> >> >
> >> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two

dealers
> > in
> >> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
> >> >
> >> > - Show quoted text -
> >>
> >> Retired,
> >>
> >> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> >> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> >> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> >> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> >> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> >> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> >> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
> >>
> >> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> >> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> >> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> >> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
>




Dave Milne 11-11-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
That would be me not paying proper attention ! Still think the principle is
sound enough to warrant investigation if stumped / more cash outlay is
required.

Cheers,
Dave

"Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fh74s1$bqi$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
> Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could
> indeed be the problem.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> > you
> > describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> > builds
> > up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> > stalls
> > and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for

another
> > 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
> >
> > Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to

diagnose
> > it.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> > "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> >> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> > > Retiredff wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> It failed again.
> >> >
> >> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
> >> >
> >> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and

the
> >> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
> >> > > up
> >> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the

pump.
> >> >
> >> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> >> > > normally get it going again.
> >> >
> >> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> >> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> >> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
> >> >
> >> > > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it

is
> > off
> >> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
> >> > would
> >> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important

piece
> > of
> >> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> > that it
> >> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
> >> >
> >> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> > that
> >> > makes sense to me.
> >> >
> >> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
> >> > me

> > to
> >> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> > Provided,
> >> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
> >> >
> >> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
> >> >
> >> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two

dealers
> > in
> >> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
> >> >
> >> > - Show quoted text -
> >>
> >> Retired,
> >>
> >> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> >> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> >> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> >> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> >> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> >> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> >> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
> >>
> >> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> >> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> >> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> >> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
>




Dave Milne 11-11-2007 10:12 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
That would be me not paying proper attention ! Still think the principle is
sound enough to warrant investigation if stumped / more cash outlay is
required.

Cheers,
Dave

"Earle Horton" <123456@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:fh74s1$bqi$2@registered.motzarella.org...
> Dave this is a carbureted vehicle with a mechanical cam driven fuel pump.
> Still, some vehicles of that vintage have a return line and that could
> indeed be the problem.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:qlpZi.61078$7_4.39883@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> > Is the return to the tank full of crud ? If so, you can get the symptoms
> > you
> > describe ; fuel pump pumps more fuel than the engine needs, pressure
> > builds
> > up in the fuel rail, eventually the pump can't pump any more. Vehicle
> > stalls
> > and wont restart. Over night pressure bleeds off, vehicle runs for

another
> > 15 mins. Eventually, fuel pump dies.
> >
> > Had this in a Rover SD1 - took me ages and several fuel pumps to

diagnose
> > it.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> > "Jon" <jongoddard@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1194623999.773226.110960@v3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> >> On Nov 8, 1:44 pm, "Retiredff" <lbat...@bogfeet.net> wrote:
> >> > Mike Romain wrote:
> >> > > Retiredff wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >> It failed again.
> >> >
> >> > > Your Gas filter is in upside down would be my guess.
> >> >
> >> > > The filter has two outlets. The center one goes to the carb and

the
> >> > > 'top' one goes to the return line. If the return line outlet isn't
> >> > > up
> >> > > top, gas siphons back to the tank when it sits air locking the

pump.
> >> >
> >> > > If this is it, two or three primes down the carb with gas will
> >> > > normally get it going again.
> >> >
> >> > > A pinhole leak in the gas line also causes this. It is a suction
> >> > > line, so a small leak only makes a stain, it doesn't drip but will
> >> > > let air in when it sits. You didn't find a stain though, so...
> >> >
> >> > > Mike
> >> >
> >> > Nope. Filter is correct. I found out many years ago that even if it

is
> > off
> >> > by just a small amount, I have problems. Besides, I think even you
> >> > would
> >> > amazed at how many times you have offered up that very important

piece
> > of
> >> > info that gets overlooked. I find them them to be very benificial in

> > that it
> >> > continually reminds me to get it correct!
> >> >
> >> > Any kind of leak won't explain this, Mike. At least, not in a manner

> > that
> >> > makes sense to me.
> >> >
> >> > Today, I talked to a friend who owns his own garage, and he convinced
> >> > me

> > to
> >> > forget the NAPA and Advance Auto Parts pumps, and get a Jeep one.

> > Provided,
> >> > of course, the pump lobe is good. I'll check that tonight.
> >> >
> >> > Any guesses on how rare those are?
> >> >
> >> > Chrysler doesn't make/stock/provide them anymore. There are two

dealers
> > in
> >> > the eastern U.S. that have them.- Hide quoted text -
> >> >
> >> > - Show quoted text -
> >>
> >> Retired,
> >>
> >> Can I ask about the mode of failure? You surely have a pile of these
> >> sitting around at this point.....and can stuff one in a vise to
> >> operate the lever and monitor whether or not it pulls/pushes or if you
> >> have a diaphragm/check valve failure. I know this doesn't duplicate
> >> the exact stroke of the pump lobe, but what do you have to lose if it
> >> indeed fails on the bench and you cut it open to investigate? I think
> >> you've gone beyond the one or two "bad" pumps off the shelf.
> >>
> >> Just in case -- the hoses also fail (soften) internally, so that under
> >> suction it closes itself off to flow. With a low level in the tank,
> >> you'll get nothing.....worth checking if your flexible lines at the
> >> tank feel soft, but you're a bit early at 1989...
> >>
> >> Jon
> >>

> >
> >

>
>
>




Some Guy 11-22-2007 01:44 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

[snip]

> You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet.


OK, I bet that you won't. Prove me wrong, if you can.

>But you coward,
> may visit me in God's country,


I see I was right.

>and I'll treat you like a King:
> http://www.----------.com/map.htm


What, you'll kiss my foot?

Some Guy 11-22-2007 01:44 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

[snip]

> You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet.


OK, I bet that you won't. Prove me wrong, if you can.

>But you coward,
> may visit me in God's country,


I see I was right.

>and I'll treat you like a King:
> http://www.----------.com/map.htm


What, you'll kiss my foot?

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-22-2007 04:02 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
You're like the other irresponsible people, too afraid of their own
shadow to use their name and address. And we're supposed to take the opinion
of a an anonymous coward from San Diego? Crawl back in your hole, like the
rest of you low life, losers! Or come on up here and I'll treat you like a
King: http://www.----------.com/map.htm
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
gibberish/babbling
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:az91j.26814$aN3.22251@newsfe12.phx...
>
> OK, I bet that you won't. Prove me wrong, if you can.
>
>
> I see I was right.
>
>
> What, you'll kiss my foot?





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-22-2007 04:02 AM

Re: Multiple fuel pump failures
 
You're like the other irresponsible people, too afraid of their own
shadow to use their name and address. And we're supposed to take the opinion
of a an anonymous coward from San Diego? Crawl back in your hole, like the
rest of you low life, losers! Or come on up here and I'll treat you like a
King: http://www.----------.com/map.htm
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
gibberish/babbling
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:az91j.26814$aN3.22251@newsfe12.phx...
>
> OK, I bet that you won't. Prove me wrong, if you can.
>
>
> I see I was right.
>
>
> What, you'll kiss my foot?





Some Guy 11-25-2007 12:28 AM

Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

[snip]

> God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
> following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
> gibberish/babbling


If you think this is babbling, you're even more stupid than I thought.
These are your words, Bill:

Message ID: zoidnQnyI_WozKjanZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@giganews.com

"You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet."

I just bet you that you wouldn't. So when's your flight leaving, Bill?

> "Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
> news:az91j.26814$aN3.22251@newsfe12.phx...
>> OK, I bet that you won't. Prove me wrong, if you can.
>>
>>
>> I see I was right.
>>
>>
>> What, you'll kiss my foot?

>
>
>


Some Guy 11-25-2007 12:28 AM

Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:

[snip]

> God, where do they find these REALLY STUPID queer traitors keep
> following me around? With even more jealous girlie maricón acosador
> gibberish/babbling


If you think this is babbling, you're even more stupid than I thought.
These are your words, Bill:

Message ID: zoidnQnyI_WozKjanZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@giganews.com

"You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet."

I just bet you that you wouldn't. So when's your flight leaving, Bill?

> "Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
> news:az91j.26814$aN3.22251@newsfe12.phx...
>> OK, I bet that you won't. Prove me wrong, if you can.
>>
>>
>> I see I was right.
>>
>>
>> What, you'll kiss my foot?

>
>
>


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-25-2007 01:35 AM

Re: Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
There you go again, the little jealous coward. Who's only way to get
attention is to make a fool of it's self, using foul language, like it did
back in elementary school yard, switch I bet you still don't know what they
mean! But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. Totally worthless! Crawl back in your hole,
like the rest of you low life queer, losers!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
Or come on up here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:MJ72j.21258$ck5.3755@newsfe09.phx...
>
> If you think this is babbling, you're even more stupid than I thought.
> These are your words, Bill:
>
> Message ID: zoidnQnyI_WozKjanZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@giganews.com
>
> "You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet."
>
> I just bet you that you wouldn't. So when's your flight leaving, Bill?
>
>






L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-25-2007 01:35 AM

Re: Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
There you go again, the little jealous coward. Who's only way to get
attention is to make a fool of it's self, using foul language, like it did
back in elementary school yard, switch I bet you still don't know what they
mean! But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
responsibility like a grown up. Totally worthless! Crawl back in your hole,
like the rest of you low life queer, losers!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
Or come on up here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:MJ72j.21258$ck5.3755@newsfe09.phx...
>
> If you think this is babbling, you're even more stupid than I thought.
> These are your words, Bill:
>
> Message ID: zoidnQnyI_WozKjanZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@giganews.com
>
> "You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet."
>
> I just bet you that you wouldn't. So when's your flight leaving, Bill?
>
>






Some Guy 11-25-2007 10:35 PM

Re: Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> There you go again, the little jealous coward. Who's only way to get
> attention is to make a fool of it's self, using foul language, like it did
> back in elementary school yard, switch I bet you still don't know what they
> mean! But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
> responsibility like a grown up. Totally worthless! Crawl back in your hole,
> like the rest of you low life queer, losers!
> You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
> a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
> <ROTFLMAO>
> Or come on up here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
> http://www.----------.com/map.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:----------@----------.com


That's funny, I don't see an itinerary there. You said you'd go to
Michigan on a bet. I made that bet with you. So when are you leaving?

Or are you welshing on your bet already, Billy Agonistes?

> "Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
> news:MJ72j.21258$ck5.3755@newsfe09.phx...
>> If you think this is babbling, you're even more stupid than I thought.
>> These are your words, Bill:
>>
>> Message ID: zoidnQnyI_WozKjanZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@giganews.com
>>
>> "You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet."
>>
>> I just bet you that you wouldn't. So when's your flight leaving, Bill?


Some Guy 11-25-2007 10:35 PM

Re: Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> There you go again, the little jealous coward. Who's only way to get
> attention is to make a fool of it's self, using foul language, like it did
> back in elementary school yard, switch I bet you still don't know what they
> mean! But, too afraid to use it's name and address, and take on
> responsibility like a grown up. Totally worthless! Crawl back in your hole,
> like the rest of you low life queer, losers!
> You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
> a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
> <ROTFLMAO>
> Or come on up here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
> http://www.----------.com/map.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:----------@----------.com


That's funny, I don't see an itinerary there. You said you'd go to
Michigan on a bet. I made that bet with you. So when are you leaving?

Or are you welshing on your bet already, Billy Agonistes?

> "Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
> news:MJ72j.21258$ck5.3755@newsfe09.phx...
>> If you think this is babbling, you're even more stupid than I thought.
>> These are your words, Bill:
>>
>> Message ID: zoidnQnyI_WozKjanZ2dnUVZ_s-pnZ2d@giganews.com
>>
>> "You know I would visit your Hell hole Michigan on a bet."
>>
>> I just bet you that you wouldn't. So when's your flight leaving, Bill?


L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-25-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. now's it's back in 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com Navarre,
Florida: http://----------.com/temp/24wimp.jpg IP: 66.98.244.52 It doesn't
have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to
get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish,
where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other
kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote,
like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican
Chihuahua with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as
any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
My service is well documented at: http://www.----------.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your ------ groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Or come on up here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:H9r2j.30776$mv3.12056@newsfe10.phx...
>
> That's funny, I don't see an itinerary there. You said you'd go to
> Michigan on a bet. I made that bet with you. So when are you leaving?
>
> Or are you welshing on your bet already, Billy Agonistes?
>
>





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-25-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. now's it's back in 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com Navarre,
Florida: http://----------.com/temp/24wimp.jpg IP: 66.98.244.52 It doesn't
have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to
get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish,
where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other
kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote,
like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican
Chihuahua with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as
any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
My service is well documented at: http://www.----------.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your ------ groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Or come on up here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:H9r2j.30776$mv3.12056@newsfe10.phx...
>
> That's funny, I don't see an itinerary there. You said you'd go to
> Michigan on a bet. I made that bet with you. So when are you leaving?
>
> Or are you welshing on your bet already, Billy Agonistes?
>
>





L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 11-25-2007 10:38 PM

Re: Bill Hughes Fears Michigan
 
There you go again, the little Psychopath, jealous, REALLY JEALOUS,
over the fact that I once own a '37 Lasalle, ranting over my documents,
possessions, successes, manliness, Super Southern California surfer body,
Christian family, and name. What a jealous little draft dodging senile
coward from 12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT, Mediacom
Communications Corp MEDIACOMCC-12-205-156-0-GULF-BREEZE-Florida, that of
course, I killed, now it's 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com New Albany,
Indiana asylum. now's it's back in 12-202-247-159.client.mchsi.com Navarre,
Florida: http://----------.com/temp/24wimp.jpg IP: 66.98.244.52 It doesn't
have a DD214, it had to have served our country for that. Who's only way to
get attention is to make a fool of its self, with its goat obsession/fetish,
where it writes via remailers, to no one's surprise. Like when the other
kids laughed at its attempt to use foul language in elementary school play
grounds, but its just gibberish. Too senile to remember what he last wrote,
like the rest of Florida. You remind me of a little rat dog, like a Mexican
Chihuahua with its senseless barking it's rabid head off, me too, me too.
And is too afraid to use your name, address, or even sign your statement as
any man would, totally worthless!
Posted pornography at: news:0u7g43dkje4pdkqi07hl66s8kpifo564k1@4ax.com
As a member of the moral majority I know what ---- is when I see it!
But now worth the time to forward this low life to: abuse@mchsi.com,
fraud@mchsi.com, fraud@4AX.COM, abuse@aioe.org, admin@cox.net,
abuse@teranews.com for forgery.
I thought your attacks were just personal disagreements, but with
passing of my country's Independents Day, I realize these attacks are
stemming from my love of God and America, and that's what you've been doing
all along is declaring your hatred for the United States of America, with
each declaration of my signature, but just too cowardly to be a ---------.
It's America, love it, or leave it, so get the f*ck out!
Considering the source, which you're a habitual lair, so these plus your
other accusations would be thrown out of court.
When are you going to take responsibility for yourself, and become a
man??????????
People that follow astrology, know the traits you have listed are a
hundred eighty out from any Capricorn.
Forwarded to: alt.binaries.pictures.autos, alt.binaries.automobile.pictures
groups so they may to see what an a**hole you really are!!!!!
Is this what your Psychologist wrote about you? They don't fit any
Capricorn, sounds like a spoil Leo.
You're a LIAR and never been in the Service much less Vietnam, as you
suggest!!!!!
If you think I'm a Psycho, then report me to my friends at the San Diego
Sheriffs Department.
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe you over any
man responsible enough to list his name and address here and in every place
I know of????? All you can do is lie, as most everything you have said
contradicts it's self.
You know what they say, once a ------ coward, always a ------ coward.
I won't give up until traitors like you are gone from these groups I
participate and see you've pretty well killed this group I will devote my
life to reminding your groups who you are!!!!!!!
I would appreciate the name and address of these trolls, Square Wheel:
S0106000ea6ba70e7.vn.shawcable.net 24.86.24.251 intrepidator@shaw.ca and
24bit:
12.205.158.32 AT&T WorldNet Services ATT Mediacom Communications Corp. I
will keep your name in confidence, kindly email -------------------- or
LW------@------.net
Sincerely,
Llewellyn W. (Bill) ------ III
You're not fooling anyone, ------! You need to get back in the hospital
before you hurt yourself or someone else.
Oh, and thanks for keeping my fight against troll/faggots like you at
the top of your groups! :-)
The only reason you write me is to try to put down my friends and my
Lord Jesus Christ. Well try as you may you're not strong enough for that,
coward.
BTW I put up a couple more of my friends cars for you to be jealous of.
:-)
I happen to know you've been locked in a rubber room, laced in a
straight jacket. Time for lights out at your insane asylum again.
Fortunately it is against the law for you to own a firearm.
There you go with that psychopathic goat obsession/fetish, that only
faggots like would think of.
That's what I've said, it's common knowledge you're a schizophrenic
------.
Hehehe I've got your user name blocked over at: Motzarella, COX, and
soon the world of servers.
What are you babbling about?????
And you think the news members won't recognize your girlie writing, and
see your user names, as fake as you.
I used to pity retarded people like you, now you just make me
laugh!!!!!!
You pathetic little schizophrenic psychopath, you make me laugh the way
a girlie, ------ writes, it gives me a feeling of extreme superiority!
<ROTFLMAO>
More jealous foul mouth girlie maricón acosador gibberish/babbling.
My service is well documented at: http://www.----------.com/ARMY.htm It
is you that has the dishonorable discharge, you're a coward. Thanks 24wimp
for the reply, so as I may forward it to your ------ groups.
I repeat: You have never been in the service, much less Vietnam!!!!!!!
What a lying coward!!!!!!!
24wimp, do you really think the news members won't catch on and
recognize your babbling on mchsi, Road Runner, news.alt.net, Newsguy
remailers, as you, the coward fag using fake names, as queer as you?
I'm just really curious as to who you think will believe your lies over
any responsible man, man enough as me, to list my name and address here, and
in every place I can think of?????
Or come on up here little ------ and I'll treat you like a King:
http://www.----------.com/map.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:----------@----------.com


"Some Guy" <noemailformethanks@anyplace.invalid> wrote in message
news:H9r2j.30776$mv3.12056@newsfe10.phx...
>
> That's funny, I don't see an itinerary there. You said you'd go to
> Michigan on a bet. I made that bet with you. So when are you leaving?
>
> Or are you welshing on your bet already, Billy Agonistes?
>
>





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