MTBE vs. Ethanol
10-25-2005, 10:28 PM
#21
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: MTBE vs. Ethanol
Been banned from outboard motors on the reservoirs around here for quite
some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
jockies mentally challenged.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> The Environmental Protection Agency make no mention it was they
> that requirement that MTBE used in gasoline, poisoning our ground water:
> http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/gas.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>
>>Like the other contrary poster, while MTBE was still legal in Kalifornia
>>and Nevada, I crossed many times between mtbe gas and alcogas with no
>>ill effects other than that too much ethanol gives a slightly rougher
>>idle with *some* brands. MTBE is now outlawed in most of the area a
>>round cheer.
some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
jockies mentally challenged.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> The Environmental Protection Agency make no mention it was they
> that requirement that MTBE used in gasoline, poisoning our ground water:
> http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/gas.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>
>>Like the other contrary poster, while MTBE was still legal in Kalifornia
>>and Nevada, I crossed many times between mtbe gas and alcogas with no
>>ill effects other than that too much ethanol gives a slightly rougher
>>idle with *some* brands. MTBE is now outlawed in most of the area a
>>round cheer.
10-25-2005, 10:28 PM
#22
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: MTBE vs. Ethanol
Been banned from outboard motors on the reservoirs around here for quite
some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
jockies mentally challenged.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> The Environmental Protection Agency make no mention it was they
> that requirement that MTBE used in gasoline, poisoning our ground water:
> http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/gas.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>
>>Like the other contrary poster, while MTBE was still legal in Kalifornia
>>and Nevada, I crossed many times between mtbe gas and alcogas with no
>>ill effects other than that too much ethanol gives a slightly rougher
>>idle with *some* brands. MTBE is now outlawed in most of the area a
>>round cheer.
some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
jockies mentally challenged.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III proclaimed:
> The Environmental Protection Agency make no mention it was they
> that requirement that MTBE used in gasoline, poisoning our ground water:
> http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/gas.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Lon wrote:
>
>>Like the other contrary poster, while MTBE was still legal in Kalifornia
>>and Nevada, I crossed many times between mtbe gas and alcogas with no
>>ill effects other than that too much ethanol gives a slightly rougher
>>idle with *some* brands. MTBE is now outlawed in most of the area a
>>round cheer.
10-25-2005, 10:53 PM
#23
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: MTBE vs. Ethanol
They say it in all our well water, too.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Been banned from outboard motors on the reservoirs around here for quite
> some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
> amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
> It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
> ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
> tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
> jockies mentally challenged.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Been banned from outboard motors on the reservoirs around here for quite
> some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
> amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
> It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
> ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
> tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
> jockies mentally challenged.
10-25-2005, 10:53 PM
#24
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: MTBE vs. Ethanol
They say it in all our well water, too.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Been banned from outboard motors on the reservoirs around here for quite
> some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
> amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
> It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
> ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
> tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
> jockies mentally challenged.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Been banned from outboard motors on the reservoirs around here for quite
> some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
> amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
> It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
> ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
> tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
> jockies mentally challenged.
10-25-2005, 10:53 PM
#25
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: MTBE vs. Ethanol
They say it in all our well water, too.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Been banned from outboard motors on the reservoirs around here for quite
> some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
> amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
> It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
> ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
> tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
> jockies mentally challenged.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Lon wrote:
>
> Been banned from outboard motors on the reservoirs around here for quite
> some time. Now banned from around Tahoe. Seems that it takes an
> amazingly tiny amount to make water taste really really bitter.
> It has been banned in Kalifornia since Jan 1 2004. Delayed by the
> ejected Guv, but eventually imposed. Originally proposed to replace
> tetraethyl lead and similar that had the bad habit of making old pump
> jockies mentally challenged.
10-28-2005, 09:26 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: MTBE vs. Ethanol
Hmmm looks like NY has the ban but NJ does not. As I live in NJ, I get gas
in both states a lot. I have not seen any effect in either the Jeep or the
Sienna.
Tomes
"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:11lr2782u5oomde@corp.supernews.com...
> He did say, that it's a good idea to do a little research before heading
out
> on that interstate trip. I did a quick Goggle and found this:
> http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/420b04009.pdf.
>
> Scott
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:LEf7f.18701$vw6.16485@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > .... and which states are which?
> >
> > "reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:11lr132avnsb279@corp.supernews.com...
> >> I just heard an interesting thing on Goss' Garage Radio Show this past
> >> weekend. He stated that MTBE is an additive that helps to oxygenate
> >> fuel,
> >> but it is a pollutant and as such has been banned in twenty-two states.
> > In
> >> those states (he didn't name them) the alternative to MTBE is used --
> > Ethyl
> >> Alcohol (Ethanol). He states that MTBE and Ethanol are not compatible
> > with
> >> one another and suggests that if your traveling from an MTBE state to
an
> >> Ethanol state, you should make sure that your tank is very near empty
> > before
> >> you fill up. The reverse is also true. He went on to state that when
> >> MTBE
> >> and Ethanol are mixed in sufficient quantity (a half tank full will do
> >> it)
> >> the chemicals react and generate a gummy precipitate that will clog
fuel
> >> filters and injectors sufficiently so to cause hard starts, rough
idling,
> >> and even stalls. Ed Goss has a good reputation in the Maryland/DC area
> > and
> >> his opinion seems very credible.
> >>
> >> Has anyone here heard something similar? Curious to know.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
in both states a lot. I have not seen any effect in either the Jeep or the
Sienna.
Tomes
"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:11lr2782u5oomde@corp.supernews.com...
> He did say, that it's a good idea to do a little research before heading
out
> on that interstate trip. I did a quick Goggle and found this:
> http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/420b04009.pdf.
>
> Scott
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:LEf7f.18701$vw6.16485@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > .... and which states are which?
> >
> > "reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:11lr132avnsb279@corp.supernews.com...
> >> I just heard an interesting thing on Goss' Garage Radio Show this past
> >> weekend. He stated that MTBE is an additive that helps to oxygenate
> >> fuel,
> >> but it is a pollutant and as such has been banned in twenty-two states.
> > In
> >> those states (he didn't name them) the alternative to MTBE is used --
> > Ethyl
> >> Alcohol (Ethanol). He states that MTBE and Ethanol are not compatible
> > with
> >> one another and suggests that if your traveling from an MTBE state to
an
> >> Ethanol state, you should make sure that your tank is very near empty
> > before
> >> you fill up. The reverse is also true. He went on to state that when
> >> MTBE
> >> and Ethanol are mixed in sufficient quantity (a half tank full will do
> >> it)
> >> the chemicals react and generate a gummy precipitate that will clog
fuel
> >> filters and injectors sufficiently so to cause hard starts, rough
idling,
> >> and even stalls. Ed Goss has a good reputation in the Maryland/DC area
> > and
> >> his opinion seems very credible.
> >>
> >> Has anyone here heard something similar? Curious to know.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
10-28-2005, 09:26 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: MTBE vs. Ethanol
Hmmm looks like NY has the ban but NJ does not. As I live in NJ, I get gas
in both states a lot. I have not seen any effect in either the Jeep or the
Sienna.
Tomes
"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:11lr2782u5oomde@corp.supernews.com...
> He did say, that it's a good idea to do a little research before heading
out
> on that interstate trip. I did a quick Goggle and found this:
> http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/420b04009.pdf.
>
> Scott
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:LEf7f.18701$vw6.16485@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > .... and which states are which?
> >
> > "reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:11lr132avnsb279@corp.supernews.com...
> >> I just heard an interesting thing on Goss' Garage Radio Show this past
> >> weekend. He stated that MTBE is an additive that helps to oxygenate
> >> fuel,
> >> but it is a pollutant and as such has been banned in twenty-two states.
> > In
> >> those states (he didn't name them) the alternative to MTBE is used --
> > Ethyl
> >> Alcohol (Ethanol). He states that MTBE and Ethanol are not compatible
> > with
> >> one another and suggests that if your traveling from an MTBE state to
an
> >> Ethanol state, you should make sure that your tank is very near empty
> > before
> >> you fill up. The reverse is also true. He went on to state that when
> >> MTBE
> >> and Ethanol are mixed in sufficient quantity (a half tank full will do
> >> it)
> >> the chemicals react and generate a gummy precipitate that will clog
fuel
> >> filters and injectors sufficiently so to cause hard starts, rough
idling,
> >> and even stalls. Ed Goss has a good reputation in the Maryland/DC area
> > and
> >> his opinion seems very credible.
> >>
> >> Has anyone here heard something similar? Curious to know.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
in both states a lot. I have not seen any effect in either the Jeep or the
Sienna.
Tomes
"reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
news:11lr2782u5oomde@corp.supernews.com...
> He did say, that it's a good idea to do a little research before heading
out
> on that interstate trip. I did a quick Goggle and found this:
> http://www.epa.gov/mtbe/420b04009.pdf.
>
> Scott
> "Tomes" <XXtomanml@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:LEf7f.18701$vw6.16485@newsread1.news.atl.eart hlink.net...
> > .... and which states are which?
> >
> > "reconair" <reconair@staffnet.com> wrote in message
> > news:11lr132avnsb279@corp.supernews.com...
> >> I just heard an interesting thing on Goss' Garage Radio Show this past
> >> weekend. He stated that MTBE is an additive that helps to oxygenate
> >> fuel,
> >> but it is a pollutant and as such has been banned in twenty-two states.
> > In
> >> those states (he didn't name them) the alternative to MTBE is used --
> > Ethyl
> >> Alcohol (Ethanol). He states that MTBE and Ethanol are not compatible
> > with
> >> one another and suggests that if your traveling from an MTBE state to
an
> >> Ethanol state, you should make sure that your tank is very near empty
> > before
> >> you fill up. The reverse is also true. He went on to state that when
> >> MTBE
> >> and Ethanol are mixed in sufficient quantity (a half tank full will do
> >> it)
> >> the chemicals react and generate a gummy precipitate that will clog
fuel
> >> filters and injectors sufficiently so to cause hard starts, rough
idling,
> >> and even stalls. Ed Goss has a good reputation in the Maryland/DC area
> > and
> >> his opinion seems very credible.
> >>
> >> Has anyone here heard something similar? Curious to know.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>