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Peter Parker 06-10-2004 11:28 PM

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 
In article <2i9579Fk4ummU1@uni-berlin.de>, Paul Calman <spam@trap.com> wrote:
>You may have worked on some of them, and apparently failed to figure them
>out, but that doesn't mean that mine smokes. Even if it did, a little smoke
>at 50 MPG would still produce less pollutants than transparent exhaust at
>25MPG. Still, I could care less about emissions, I have it because it is an
>economical vehicle. Your logic is flawed, your hatred of these vehicles is
>based upon a 'feeling', rather than facts. Most of these vehicles lived out
>their engineered lifespan, or died of poor maintenance. They were not meant
>to last this long, and had flaws, any company's cheapest vehicle does, just
>like your Jeep.


I have to agree with Paul. Back in 1999 I visited the relatives over in
Germany. The mostly all drive diesels, from VW, Audi to Mercedes. The fuel
over there is so much better, you can't even notice your behind a diesel.

I own 5 vehicles:

94 YJ 193000 miles
94 Jetta 188000 miles
91 ECOdiesel 201000 miles
89 Golf 16V GTI 138000 miles
and finally an 86 Golf Diesel 284000 miles.

Today I finished doing a cambelt, tensioner, v-belts, water pump, thermostat
change on the 86. Last week I swapped out the coolant system on the YJ with
all new hoses, clamps and a 3 core all metal radiator. Sweet... I also just
bought a Banks Stinger cat back for the Jeep and that will go on when I get
some more free time. I also want to do a body mount swap but I am still up
in the are about the DayStar 1" body lift replacement kit.

>Your first post states that a diesel Jeep would be a bad idea. Do you think


They have them already but in South Africa I believe.

>that Mercedes Benz doesn't know how to build a good diesel? My smokey little
>1963, 190DC returned 38-40 MPG , and still ran, without ever having the head
>or pan removed, when I sent it to the boneyard for burning oil at 874,000
>miles. I would welcome a small displacement, Mercedes designed, direct


WOW!!! I don't think you can do that with a gasser. :-) Maybe one of those
Japanese 1 million mile mobiles but that's about it. :)

>injected diesel in a Jeep. Turbo would be a mistake, but a VW Corrado style
>blower might work.
>That Fonda crack was low. Shame on you.


>--
>Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>



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Peter Parker 06-10-2004 11:28 PM

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 
In article <2i9579Fk4ummU1@uni-berlin.de>, Paul Calman <spam@trap.com> wrote:
>You may have worked on some of them, and apparently failed to figure them
>out, but that doesn't mean that mine smokes. Even if it did, a little smoke
>at 50 MPG would still produce less pollutants than transparent exhaust at
>25MPG. Still, I could care less about emissions, I have it because it is an
>economical vehicle. Your logic is flawed, your hatred of these vehicles is
>based upon a 'feeling', rather than facts. Most of these vehicles lived out
>their engineered lifespan, or died of poor maintenance. They were not meant
>to last this long, and had flaws, any company's cheapest vehicle does, just
>like your Jeep.


I have to agree with Paul. Back in 1999 I visited the relatives over in
Germany. The mostly all drive diesels, from VW, Audi to Mercedes. The fuel
over there is so much better, you can't even notice your behind a diesel.

I own 5 vehicles:

94 YJ 193000 miles
94 Jetta 188000 miles
91 ECOdiesel 201000 miles
89 Golf 16V GTI 138000 miles
and finally an 86 Golf Diesel 284000 miles.

Today I finished doing a cambelt, tensioner, v-belts, water pump, thermostat
change on the 86. Last week I swapped out the coolant system on the YJ with
all new hoses, clamps and a 3 core all metal radiator. Sweet... I also just
bought a Banks Stinger cat back for the Jeep and that will go on when I get
some more free time. I also want to do a body mount swap but I am still up
in the are about the DayStar 1" body lift replacement kit.

>Your first post states that a diesel Jeep would be a bad idea. Do you think


They have them already but in South Africa I believe.

>that Mercedes Benz doesn't know how to build a good diesel? My smokey little
>1963, 190DC returned 38-40 MPG , and still ran, without ever having the head
>or pan removed, when I sent it to the boneyard for burning oil at 874,000
>miles. I would welcome a small displacement, Mercedes designed, direct


WOW!!! I don't think you can do that with a gasser. :-) Maybe one of those
Japanese 1 million mile mobiles but that's about it. :)

>injected diesel in a Jeep. Turbo would be a mistake, but a VW Corrado style
>blower might work.
>That Fonda crack was low. Shame on you.


>--
>Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>



--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Replace nospam with jetta for e-mail

Peter Parker 06-10-2004 11:28 PM

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 
In article <2i9579Fk4ummU1@uni-berlin.de>, Paul Calman <spam@trap.com> wrote:
>You may have worked on some of them, and apparently failed to figure them
>out, but that doesn't mean that mine smokes. Even if it did, a little smoke
>at 50 MPG would still produce less pollutants than transparent exhaust at
>25MPG. Still, I could care less about emissions, I have it because it is an
>economical vehicle. Your logic is flawed, your hatred of these vehicles is
>based upon a 'feeling', rather than facts. Most of these vehicles lived out
>their engineered lifespan, or died of poor maintenance. They were not meant
>to last this long, and had flaws, any company's cheapest vehicle does, just
>like your Jeep.


I have to agree with Paul. Back in 1999 I visited the relatives over in
Germany. The mostly all drive diesels, from VW, Audi to Mercedes. The fuel
over there is so much better, you can't even notice your behind a diesel.

I own 5 vehicles:

94 YJ 193000 miles
94 Jetta 188000 miles
91 ECOdiesel 201000 miles
89 Golf 16V GTI 138000 miles
and finally an 86 Golf Diesel 284000 miles.

Today I finished doing a cambelt, tensioner, v-belts, water pump, thermostat
change on the 86. Last week I swapped out the coolant system on the YJ with
all new hoses, clamps and a 3 core all metal radiator. Sweet... I also just
bought a Banks Stinger cat back for the Jeep and that will go on when I get
some more free time. I also want to do a body mount swap but I am still up
in the are about the DayStar 1" body lift replacement kit.

>Your first post states that a diesel Jeep would be a bad idea. Do you think


They have them already but in South Africa I believe.

>that Mercedes Benz doesn't know how to build a good diesel? My smokey little
>1963, 190DC returned 38-40 MPG , and still ran, without ever having the head
>or pan removed, when I sent it to the boneyard for burning oil at 874,000
>miles. I would welcome a small displacement, Mercedes designed, direct


WOW!!! I don't think you can do that with a gasser. :-) Maybe one of those
Japanese 1 million mile mobiles but that's about it. :)

>injected diesel in a Jeep. Turbo would be a mistake, but a VW Corrado style
>blower might work.
>That Fonda crack was low. Shame on you.


>--
>Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California
>
>



--
Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...
Replace nospam with jetta for e-mail

wkearney99 06-11-2004 10:01 AM

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 
> Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated.


Which is a great idea. It's going to be a lot less expensive to add
cleaner/scrubber hardware to a large production plant than it would be to add it
onto individual vehicles.


wkearney99 06-11-2004 10:01 AM

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 
> Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated.


Which is a great idea. It's going to be a lot less expensive to add
cleaner/scrubber hardware to a large production plant than it would be to add it
onto individual vehicles.


wkearney99 06-11-2004 10:01 AM

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 
> Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated.


Which is a great idea. It's going to be a lot less expensive to add
cleaner/scrubber hardware to a large production plant than it would be to add it
onto individual vehicles.


wkearney99 06-11-2004 10:01 AM

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 
> Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated.


Which is a great idea. It's going to be a lot less expensive to add
cleaner/scrubber hardware to a large production plant than it would be to add it
onto individual vehicles.



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