Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
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> > "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
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> > > Actually we won't hear them bragging because the hybrids are just
> > > getting the regular econo box, 35 MPG. Which, my Thunderbird gets if I
> > > get stuck in Los Angeles traffic.
> > > God Bless America, ßill
>
> All this hybrid hype is "deja vu all over again". In the late 70's early
> 80's VW got nearly 50 MPG on the EPA cycle with the diesel. The things
never
> came close in real life and the customers revolted in droves.
> Honda and Toyota need to be reminded of how pioneers are identified:
They're
> the ones with arrows in their backs!
>
Uh... I owned a 78 rabbit diesel, own a 99.5 jetta tdi diesel and too many
to count in between and can tell you that all of them have averaged at least
45 mph while I owned them. The last was a 96 Passat wagon tdi and at 107k
miles it had averaged 45mpg per gallon every tankfull! When my current jetta
was driven mostly highway it always got over 50 mpg. Now with mostly in town
it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the
hybrids's rating are indeed totally unrealistic. But Honda and toyoto don't
come up with the numbers, the EPA does.

JoBo

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Owned? I still own a '46 CJ2A, '57 T-Bird, '78 Bronco, and '89
T-bird: http://www.----------.com/wawanesa02.jpg What, they keep falling
apart on you? Buy American and you won't have that problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Uh... I owned a 78 rabbit diesel, own a 99.5 jetta tdi diesel and too many
> to count in between and can tell you that all of them have averaged at least
> 45 mph while I owned them. The last was a 96 Passat wagon tdi and at 107k
> miles it had averaged 45mpg per gallon every tankfull! When my current jetta
> was driven mostly highway it always got over 50 mpg. Now with mostly in town
> it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
> dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the
> hybrids's rating are indeed totally unrealistic. But Honda and toyoto don't
> come up with the numbers, the EPA does.
>
> JoBo

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Owned? I still own a '46 CJ2A, '57 T-Bird, '78 Bronco, and '89
T-bird: http://www.----------.com/wawanesa02.jpg What, they keep falling
apart on you? Buy American and you won't have that problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Uh... I owned a 78 rabbit diesel, own a 99.5 jetta tdi diesel and too many
> to count in between and can tell you that all of them have averaged at least
> 45 mph while I owned them. The last was a 96 Passat wagon tdi and at 107k
> miles it had averaged 45mpg per gallon every tankfull! When my current jetta
> was driven mostly highway it always got over 50 mpg. Now with mostly in town
> it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
> dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the
> hybrids's rating are indeed totally unrealistic. But Honda and toyoto don't
> come up with the numbers, the EPA does.
>
> JoBo

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Owned? I still own a '46 CJ2A, '57 T-Bird, '78 Bronco, and '89
T-bird: http://www.----------.com/wawanesa02.jpg What, they keep falling
apart on you? Buy American and you won't have that problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Uh... I owned a 78 rabbit diesel, own a 99.5 jetta tdi diesel and too many
> to count in between and can tell you that all of them have averaged at least
> 45 mph while I owned them. The last was a 96 Passat wagon tdi and at 107k
> miles it had averaged 45mpg per gallon every tankfull! When my current jetta
> was driven mostly highway it always got over 50 mpg. Now with mostly in town
> it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
> dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the
> hybrids's rating are indeed totally unrealistic. But Honda and toyoto don't
> come up with the numbers, the EPA does.
>
> JoBo

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Owned? I still own a '46 CJ2A, '57 T-Bird, '78 Bronco, and '89
T-bird: http://www.----------.com/wawanesa02.jpg What, they keep falling
apart on you? Buy American and you won't have that problem.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

Jo Bo wrote:
>
> Uh... I owned a 78 rabbit diesel, own a 99.5 jetta tdi diesel and too many
> to count in between and can tell you that all of them have averaged at least
> 45 mph while I owned them. The last was a 96 Passat wagon tdi and at 107k
> miles it had averaged 45mpg per gallon every tankfull! When my current jetta
> was driven mostly highway it always got over 50 mpg. Now with mostly in town
> it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
> dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the
> hybrids's rating are indeed totally unrealistic. But Honda and toyoto don't
> come up with the numbers, the EPA does.
>
> JoBo

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jo Bo wrote:

> it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
> dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the

Close. Mitsubishi. From the folks who brought you the Zero.

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Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jo Bo wrote:

> it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
> dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the

Close. Mitsubishi. From the folks who brought you the Zero.

2. Mitsubishi A6M Zero-Sen - Japan
<URL:http://www.aviation-history.com/mitsubishi/zero.html>

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jo Bo wrote:

> it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
> dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the

Close. Mitsubishi. From the folks who brought you the Zero.

2. Mitsubishi A6M Zero-Sen - Japan
<URL:http://www.aviation-history.com/mitsubishi/zero.html>

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jo Bo wrote:

> it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was too
> dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the

Close. Mitsubishi. From the folks who brought you the Zero.

2. Mitsubishi A6M Zero-Sen - Japan
<URL:http://www.aviation-history.com/mitsubishi/zero.html>

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Not close - its the VM Italian engine isn't it ?

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'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 8 Jun 2004, Jo Bo wrote:
>
> > it's 45 mpg. I once tried to buy a Charokee with the turbo diesel
> > mitchabitchi (sp?) engine but the salesman at the local jeep dealer was
too
> > dumb to know what I was talking about. Must be a jeep thing... But the
>
> Close. Mitsubishi. From the folks who brought you the Zero.
>
> 2. Mitsubishi A6M Zero-Sen - Japan
> <URL:http://www.aviation-history.com/mitsubishi/zero.html>
>