More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
digress....

VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
pistons, etc., etc.

Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
Now, get ready for the fix....

VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!

Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
him and his contraption to the infernal regions!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)

http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/

:)

--
DougW

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)

http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/

:)

--
DougW

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)

http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/

:)

--
DougW

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine)

http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/

:)

--
DougW

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jerry MCP wrote:
>
> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....
>
> VW's infamous Rabbit diesel of the late '70's was if anything one of the
> automotive worlds worst afterthoughts, bested only by GM's even more stupid
> designs. VW's cursed 4 cyl. diesel was nothing more than their already rough
> running, undersquare gasoline 4 banger, re-tooled with a different head,
> pistons and mechanical injection gear apparently derived from some form of
> German tractor. Head gaskets leaked, cranks broke, blocks cracked internally
> flooding the cooling systems with oil, crank woodruf keys worked loose,
> retarding the cam timing and slowly pressing the valves into the tops of the
> pistons, etc., etc.
>
> Worse was the car itself, which had an insufficiently strong structure to
> manage the vibration stresses (no powertrain sub-frame). In the best case
> the body shook like a wet dog with fleas at idle. Extreme cases became
> routine in '81 when the stroke was increased. Since the center powertrain
> mount was directly under the firewall, dashboards shook so badly the
> instruments couldn't be read and the things started shaking themselves to
> pieces. Body welds broke loose, suspension pieces came loose, you name it.
> Now, get ready for the fix....
>
> VW "engineers" designed a cast iron brick, suspended on a steel strap, which
> was to be bolted inside the front bumper. Such as the structure was, the
> contraption drew the vibrations from the firewall area to the front bumper.
> Then, of course, the front license plates began to fall off, later the
> bumper mounts cracked and began to release the bumpers onto the highways and
> byways of the USA....all this to get a (mostly fictitious) 40+ MPG!
>
> Persons making any further suggestions on this forum that Jeeps need diesels
> will be consigned to the back of the bus where they can enjoy being
> asphixiated by the diesel fumes. Meanwhile, I, along with millions of former
> diesel owners aremed with torches will continue to search out Dr. Diesel's
> gravesite at night, where we will perform an exorcisim intended to consign
> him and his contraption to the infernal regions!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....

REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED

So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?

Shame on you.



John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....

REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED

So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?

Shame on you.



John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....

REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED

So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?

Shame on you.



John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

>So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
>(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
>suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
>of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
>our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
>off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
>digress....

REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED

So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?

Shame on you.



John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

https://www.wviz.org/features/0519saf_future_car.asp
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf


"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

https://www.wviz.org/features/0519saf_future_car.asp
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf


"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

https://www.wviz.org/features/0519saf_future_car.asp
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf


"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

https://www.wviz.org/features/0519saf_future_car.asp
http://pbshawaii.org/index_home_file...4/saf_cars.pdf


"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> I hope everyone gets a chance to watch "future car" that was on
> last night on Public Broadcasting Station, narrated by Allan Alda, he
> gets an honest opinion from all the hybrid prototype manufacturers,
> diesel will always be too dirty for California, even with it's gigantic
> after burner catalytic converter. The gasoline engine, battery,
> generator, motor, hybrids that in reality get about 35 of their 60 MPG
> advertised. The Hydrogen internal combustion engine storage tank is far
> too explosive. Storage battery, just changes the place where the
> pollution was generated. Daimler is working on an platform that
> chemically turns hydrogen into electricity without storage batteries to
> drive electric motors, which is twenty years away, until then the
> contentious is gasoline is the most efficient, cleanest fuel available.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....

LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).

I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!

--
Will Honea

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....

LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).

I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!

--
Will Honea

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....

LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).

I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!

--
Will Honea

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
<gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:

> So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive curse
> (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised proponents
> of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have slunk
> off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> digress....

LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).

I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
after the other!

--
Will Honea

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:0Atvc.9178$W01.1251@okepread01...
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> > So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> > (the diesel engine)
>
> http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
>
> :)
>
> --
> DougW

ROFLMAO! You mean to tell me that over 120 years after the invention of the
automobile exactly ONE race vehicle exists with a diesel engine? Game, Set
and MATCH! (...why, hey, that's a good idea, let's set a MATCH to it!)

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:0Atvc.9178$W01.1251@okepread01...
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> > So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> > (the diesel engine)
>
> http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
>
> :)
>
> --
> DougW

ROFLMAO! You mean to tell me that over 120 years after the invention of the
automobile exactly ONE race vehicle exists with a diesel engine? Game, Set
and MATCH! (...why, hey, that's a good idea, let's set a MATCH to it!)

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:0Atvc.9178$W01.1251@okepread01...
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> > So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> > (the diesel engine)
>
> http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
>
> :)
>
> --
> DougW

ROFLMAO! You mean to tell me that over 120 years after the invention of the
automobile exactly ONE race vehicle exists with a diesel engine? Game, Set
and MATCH! (...why, hey, that's a good idea, let's set a MATCH to it!)

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:0Atvc.9178$W01.1251@okepread01...
> Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> > So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> > (the diesel engine)
>
> http://www.streetracersonline.com/articles/golfvrcr/
>
> :)
>
> --
> DougW

ROFLMAO! You mean to tell me that over 120 years after the invention of the
automobile exactly ONE race vehicle exists with a diesel engine? Game, Set
and MATCH! (...why, hey, that's a good idea, let's set a MATCH to it!)

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3pusb0910ei29tb8gfmkjp2cvpe1sn9ib2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> >(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> >suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised
proponents
> >of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> >our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have
slunk
> >off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> >digress....
>
> REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
>
> So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?

Dislike? No, DETEST is more the word you are looking for!

> Shame on you. <

Shame on ME? Hey, I'm not the one trying to pawn off th devils own internal
combustion smoke belcher on the public! We've been through this bull$#!t
before with these POS's, there's no need to repeat a bad idea 25+ years
removed. However, YOU can go buy a clattering Golf diesel and tell us all
how you like it a year later! (That black stuff in the radiator is OIL!)
>
>
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3pusb0910ei29tb8gfmkjp2cvpe1sn9ib2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> >(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> >suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised
proponents
> >of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> >our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have
slunk
> >off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> >digress....
>
> REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
>
> So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?

Dislike? No, DETEST is more the word you are looking for!

> Shame on you. <

Shame on ME? Hey, I'm not the one trying to pawn off th devils own internal
combustion smoke belcher on the public! We've been through this bull$#!t
before with these POS's, there's no need to repeat a bad idea 25+ years
removed. However, YOU can go buy a clattering Golf diesel and tell us all
how you like it a year later! (That black stuff in the radiator is OIL!)
>
>
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3pusb0910ei29tb8gfmkjp2cvpe1sn9ib2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> >(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> >suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised
proponents
> >of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> >our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have
slunk
> >off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> >digress....
>
> REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
>
> So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?

Dislike? No, DETEST is more the word you are looking for!

> Shame on you. <

Shame on ME? Hey, I'm not the one trying to pawn off th devils own internal
combustion smoke belcher on the public! We've been through this bull$#!t
before with these POS's, there's no need to repeat a bad idea 25+ years
removed. However, YOU can go buy a clattering Golf diesel and tell us all
how you like it a year later! (That black stuff in the radiator is OIL!)
>
>
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"John Davies" <saab95aerowagon@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3pusb0910ei29tb8gfmkjp2cvpe1sn9ib2@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:07:35 -0600, "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> >So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> >(the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories were
> >suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised
proponents
> >of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc on
> >our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have
slunk
> >off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> >digress....
>
> REST OF DRIVEL SNIPPED
>
> So, we are to assume you dislike diesels?

Dislike? No, DETEST is more the word you are looking for!

> Shame on you. <

Shame on ME? Hey, I'm not the one trying to pawn off th devils own internal
combustion smoke belcher on the public! We've been through this bull$#!t
before with these POS's, there's no need to repeat a bad idea 25+ years
removed. However, YOU can go buy a clattering Golf diesel and tell us all
how you like it a year later! (That black stuff in the radiator is OIL!)
>
>
>
> John Davies
> http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
> '96 Lexus LX450
> '00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
> Spokane WA USA

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

My 82 VW diesel Jetta has over 130k miles on it, runs great, doesn't drip or
burn oil, and gets 50 MPG on the freeway, and 38 MPG on Sierra mountain
roads. It's incredible what performing scheduled maintenance on-time will
do. I would not trade it for your jeep. I think you are just jealous.
I burn so little fuel that refining my own free bio-diesel would be silly.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

My 82 VW diesel Jetta has over 130k miles on it, runs great, doesn't drip or
burn oil, and gets 50 MPG on the freeway, and 38 MPG on Sierra mountain
roads. It's incredible what performing scheduled maintenance on-time will
do. I would not trade it for your jeep. I think you are just jealous.
I burn so little fuel that refining my own free bio-diesel would be silly.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

My 82 VW diesel Jetta has over 130k miles on it, runs great, doesn't drip or
burn oil, and gets 50 MPG on the freeway, and 38 MPG on Sierra mountain
roads. It's incredible what performing scheduled maintenance on-time will
do. I would not trade it for your jeep. I think you are just jealous.
I burn so little fuel that refining my own free bio-diesel would be silly.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

My 82 VW diesel Jetta has over 130k miles on it, runs great, doesn't drip or
burn oil, and gets 50 MPG on the freeway, and 38 MPG on Sierra mountain
roads. It's incredible what performing scheduled maintenance on-time will
do. I would not trade it for your jeep. I think you are just jealous.
I burn so little fuel that refining my own free bio-diesel would be silly.
--
Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-xg394OGU0Bd1@anon.none.net...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> > So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> > (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories
were
> > suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised
proponents
> > of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc
on
> > our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have
slunk
> > off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> > digress....
>
> LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
> belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
> jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
> Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
> Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
> Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
> his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
> down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
> Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
> I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
> length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
> and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
> that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
>
> I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
> after the other!
>
> --
> Will Honea

LMAO!

What a lucky young man! Best use of an apple tree I've heard of yet.

Another design defect with early versions of the damn things, oil vapor from
the crankcase ventilation system would condense in the intake manifold.
Eventually enough oil would collect in the intake that the thing would start
to run away uncontrollably on it's own oil supply. We did a Rube Goldberg
recall campaign to try and keep the oil in the sump, which had to be
repeated because the fix didn't work.

Then, because the friggin things were so gutless, some fool came out with a
turbo kit that would really suck the oil out of the sump at higher RPMs. At
highway speeds the thing could start running not only on it's own oil, but
with turbo efficiency to boot! Great fun to let off the throttle, or even
turn off the key, and have the engine keep on screaming away, often until it
self destructed. Hey, just another product of brilliant, enlightened German
engineering!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-xg394OGU0Bd1@anon.none.net...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> > So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> > (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories
were
> > suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised
proponents
> > of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc
on
> > our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have
slunk
> > off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> > digress....
>
> LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
> belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
> jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
> Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
> Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
> Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
> his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
> down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
> Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
> I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
> length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
> and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
> that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
>
> I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
> after the other!
>
> --
> Will Honea

LMAO!

What a lucky young man! Best use of an apple tree I've heard of yet.

Another design defect with early versions of the damn things, oil vapor from
the crankcase ventilation system would condense in the intake manifold.
Eventually enough oil would collect in the intake that the thing would start
to run away uncontrollably on it's own oil supply. We did a Rube Goldberg
recall campaign to try and keep the oil in the sump, which had to be
repeated because the fix didn't work.

Then, because the friggin things were so gutless, some fool came out with a
turbo kit that would really suck the oil out of the sump at higher RPMs. At
highway speeds the thing could start running not only on it's own oil, but
with turbo efficiency to boot! Great fun to let off the throttle, or even
turn off the key, and have the engine keep on screaming away, often until it
self destructed. Hey, just another product of brilliant, enlightened German
engineering!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-xg394OGU0Bd1@anon.none.net...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> > So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> > (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories
were
> > suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised
proponents
> > of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc
on
> > our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have
slunk
> > off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> > digress....
>
> LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
> belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
> jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
> Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
> Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
> Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
> his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
> down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
> Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
> I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
> length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
> and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
> that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
>
> I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
> after the other!
>
> --
> Will Honea

LMAO!

What a lucky young man! Best use of an apple tree I've heard of yet.

Another design defect with early versions of the damn things, oil vapor from
the crankcase ventilation system would condense in the intake manifold.
Eventually enough oil would collect in the intake that the thing would start
to run away uncontrollably on it's own oil supply. We did a Rube Goldberg
recall campaign to try and keep the oil in the sump, which had to be
repeated because the fix didn't work.

Then, because the friggin things were so gutless, some fool came out with a
turbo kit that would really suck the oil out of the sump at higher RPMs. At
highway speeds the thing could start running not only on it's own oil, but
with turbo efficiency to boot! Great fun to let off the throttle, or even
turn off the key, and have the engine keep on screaming away, often until it
self destructed. Hey, just another product of brilliant, enlightened German
engineering!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

"Will Honea" <hwj25(remove this)@qwest.net> wrote in message
news:JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-xg394OGU0Bd1@anon.none.net...
> On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 23:07:35 UTC "Jerry McG"
> <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote:
>
> > So, here we were waxing on the non-merits of Dr. Diesel's automotive
curse
> > (the diesel engine) when my memory banks of VW diesel horror stories
were
> > suddenly jolted loose and dislodged. Apparently the ill-advised
proponents
> > of the proposition that passenger car diesels should again wreak havoc
on
> > our senses and tranquility, let alone be forced upon Jeep owners, have
slunk
> > off to plot their evil plans in secret. We're wise to the scam, but, I
> > digress....
>
> LOL. My oldest son was the lucky? recipient of one of those that had
> belonged to an aunt of his SO. Since he was broke and it was free, he
> jumped at it - only had something like 15,000 miles on the clock.
> Anyway, he fought the problems you mention for a year or so when
> Mother Nature stepped in give him a clue. He and the GF took off to
> Vegas for a weekend to attend a wedding. when they got back, here was
> his VW sitting in the driveway - with a hugh apple tree that had blown
> down while he was gone laying right down the center of that POS.
> Looked like the Home Improvement episode where they dropped the big
> I-beam on the old chevy wagon: roof touching the floor for most of the
> length of the cab. Talk about lucking out - the tree was a neighbor's
> and his homeowners insurance covered the loss. My son got more for
> that damned thing than I thought possible (or legal).
>
> I never saw so many things go wrong as on that engine - just one thing
> after the other!
>
> --
> Will Honea

LMAO!

What a lucky young man! Best use of an apple tree I've heard of yet.

Another design defect with early versions of the damn things, oil vapor from
the crankcase ventilation system would condense in the intake manifold.
Eventually enough oil would collect in the intake that the thing would start
to run away uncontrollably on it's own oil supply. We did a Rube Goldberg
recall campaign to try and keep the oil in the sump, which had to be
repeated because the fix didn't work.

Then, because the friggin things were so gutless, some fool came out with a
turbo kit that would really suck the oil out of the sump at higher RPMs. At
highway speeds the thing could start running not only on it's own oil, but
with turbo efficiency to boot! Great fun to let off the throttle, or even
turn off the key, and have the engine keep on screaming away, often until it
self destructed. Hey, just another product of brilliant, enlightened German
engineering!

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Less than six thousand a year? Sounds like it's spent most of the
time in the shop.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> My 82 VW diesel Jetta has over 130k miles on it, runs great, doesn't drip or
> burn oil, and gets 50 MPG on the freeway, and 38 MPG on Sierra mountain
> roads. It's incredible what performing scheduled maintenance on-time will
> do. I would not trade it for your jeep. I think you are just jealous.
> I burn so little fuel that refining my own free bio-diesel would be silly.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Less than six thousand a year? Sounds like it's spent most of the
time in the shop.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> My 82 VW diesel Jetta has over 130k miles on it, runs great, doesn't drip or
> burn oil, and gets 50 MPG on the freeway, and 38 MPG on Sierra mountain
> roads. It's incredible what performing scheduled maintenance on-time will
> do. I would not trade it for your jeep. I think you are just jealous.
> I burn so little fuel that refining my own free bio-diesel would be silly.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California

Re: More VW Diesel Knee-Slappers
 

Less than six thousand a year? Sounds like it's spent most of the
time in the shop.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Paul Calman wrote:
>
> My 82 VW diesel Jetta has over 130k miles on it, runs great, doesn't drip or
> burn oil, and gets 50 MPG on the freeway, and 38 MPG on Sierra mountain
> roads. It's incredible what performing scheduled maintenance on-time will
> do. I would not trade it for your jeep. I think you are just jealous.
> I burn so little fuel that refining my own free bio-diesel would be silly.
> --
> Paul Calman, Hathaway Pines, California