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More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
I just got 30" BFG's T/A's installed at NTB. They look and ride a lot
nicer than the stock Wrangler GSA's did. But they have a 30 day policy, and might just want to get the 31's.- Still! I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1 or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda sluggish to me, with the six cyl. Realistically, I'd only be gaining .6" with the 31's. That and they look cool lol! I'm wondering if someone can point out some other points I missed or correct me on some of this stuff. Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
You can fit up to a 32" tire on the stock spare tire mount without
modification. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > I just got 30" BFG's T/A's installed at NTB. They look and ride a lot > nicer than the stock Wrangler GSA's did. But they have a 30 day > policy, and might just want to get the 31's.- Still! > > I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1 > or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda > sluggish to me, with the six cyl. > > Realistically, I'd only be gaining .6" with the 31's. That and they > look cool lol! I'm wondering if someone can point out some other > points I missed or correct me on some of this stuff. > > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
You can fit up to a 32" tire on the stock spare tire mount without
modification. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > I just got 30" BFG's T/A's installed at NTB. They look and ride a lot > nicer than the stock Wrangler GSA's did. But they have a 30 day > policy, and might just want to get the 31's.- Still! > > I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1 > or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda > sluggish to me, with the six cyl. > > Realistically, I'd only be gaining .6" with the 31's. That and they > look cool lol! I'm wondering if someone can point out some other > points I missed or correct me on some of this stuff. > > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
You can fit up to a 32" tire on the stock spare tire mount without
modification. Jerry -- Jerry Bransford To email, remove 'me' from my email address KC6TAY, PP-ASEL See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > I just got 30" BFG's T/A's installed at NTB. They look and ride a lot > nicer than the stock Wrangler GSA's did. But they have a 30 day > policy, and might just want to get the 31's.- Still! > > I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1 > or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda > sluggish to me, with the six cyl. > > Realistically, I'd only be gaining .6" with the 31's. That and they > look cool lol! I'm wondering if someone can point out some other > points I missed or correct me on some of this stuff. > > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
"stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? Yes. You will likely need to remove the rubber bumpers that are on the tailgate, though, as the 31s tend to be wider than the 30s. > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? Here's some... http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tir...bum?.dir=/Jeep Tirya '99 TJ Sahara |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
"stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? Yes. You will likely need to remove the rubber bumpers that are on the tailgate, though, as the 31s tend to be wider than the 30s. > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? Here's some... http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tir...bum?.dir=/Jeep Tirya '99 TJ Sahara |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
"stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? Yes. You will likely need to remove the rubber bumpers that are on the tailgate, though, as the 31s tend to be wider than the 30s. > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? Here's some... http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tir...bum?.dir=/Jeep Tirya '99 TJ Sahara |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of
gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat pratical. It's my only ride. "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message news:<16qFb.622824$Fm2.560379@attbi_s04>... > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > > > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? > > Yes. You will likely need to remove the rubber bumpers that are on the > tailgate, though, as the 31s tend to be wider than the 30s. > > > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? > > Here's some... > > http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tir...bum?.dir=/Jeep > > Tirya > '99 TJ Sahara |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of
gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat pratical. It's my only ride. "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message news:<16qFb.622824$Fm2.560379@attbi_s04>... > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > > > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? > > Yes. You will likely need to remove the rubber bumpers that are on the > tailgate, though, as the 31s tend to be wider than the 30s. > > > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? > > Here's some... > > http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tir...bum?.dir=/Jeep > > Tirya > '99 TJ Sahara |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of
gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat pratical. It's my only ride. "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message news:<16qFb.622824$Fm2.560379@attbi_s04>... > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312211426.7fb733ae@posting.google.c om... > > > Does the 31 fit on the spare tire rack without modification? > > Yes. You will likely need to remove the rubber bumpers that are on the > tailgate, though, as the 31s tend to be wider than the 30s. > > > Anyone have any pics of the 31's on a stock TJ? > > Here's some... > > http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/tir...bum?.dir=/Jeep > > Tirya > '99 TJ Sahara |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
I am running 31s on my TJ in the winter. I have it geared at 3.73 and
6 cylinder. I run 33s Muds in the summer. I would go with the 31s since they look better with a TJ. Rubicons come with 31 inch tires so clearance is not a problem. The problem is that if you stick with 30s and you change your mind, getting 5 new tires is $$$. And you will not be happy. Go big go once! |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
I am running 31s on my TJ in the winter. I have it geared at 3.73 and
6 cylinder. I run 33s Muds in the summer. I would go with the 31s since they look better with a TJ. Rubicons come with 31 inch tires so clearance is not a problem. The problem is that if you stick with 30s and you change your mind, getting 5 new tires is $$$. And you will not be happy. Go big go once! |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
I am running 31s on my TJ in the winter. I have it geared at 3.73 and
6 cylinder. I run 33s Muds in the summer. I would go with the 31s since they look better with a TJ. Rubicons come with 31 inch tires so clearance is not a problem. The problem is that if you stick with 30s and you change your mind, getting 5 new tires is $$$. And you will not be happy. Go big go once! |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35
in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > pratical. It's my only ride. |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35
in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > pratical. It's my only ride. |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35
in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > pratical. It's my only ride. |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
3.73 was an option.
Tirya wrote: > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > anything. > > Tirya > -- > TDC Inca Jeeper > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman." -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
3.73 was an option.
Tirya wrote: > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > anything. > > Tirya > -- > TDC Inca Jeeper > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman." -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
3.73 was an option.
Tirya wrote: > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > anything. > > Tirya > -- > TDC Inca Jeeper > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > -- __________________________________________________ _________ tw 03 TJ Rubicon 01 XJ Sport "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and a woman." -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
<< I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1
or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda sluggish to me, with the six cyl >> What is your jeep geared? 30's are about as big as is practical with 3.07's and a 5-speed tranny. -jeff |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
<< I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1
or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda sluggish to me, with the six cyl >> What is your jeep geared? 30's are about as big as is practical with 3.07's and a 5-speed tranny. -jeff |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
<< I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1
or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda sluggish to me, with the six cyl >> What is your jeep geared? 30's are about as big as is practical with 3.07's and a 5-speed tranny. -jeff |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30"
goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > Tirya wrote: > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > > anything. > > > > Tirya > > -- > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ _________ > tw > 03 TJ Rubicon > 01 XJ Sport > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > a woman." > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30"
goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > Tirya wrote: > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > > anything. > > > > Tirya > > -- > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ _________ > tw > 03 TJ Rubicon > 01 XJ Sport > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > a woman." > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30"
goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > Tirya wrote: > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > > anything. > > > > Tirya > > -- > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > -- > __________________________________________________ _________ > tw > 03 TJ Rubicon > 01 XJ Sport > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > a woman." > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
No it's 3.73. I'm sure. But my first jeep, a 97 tj, had 3.07 gears
and the stock 225 tires on it. That thing had some pickup on it. It was pretty quick on the highways and I remember getting 20+ mpg city/highway mix. The 3.73 with the 30's on my 98 is a little pig when it comes to gas guzzlin'. MPG is about 4 mpg less. Besides Gas mileage, the thing I didn't like about the the Goodyear 30" stock tires is that they were terrible on snowy roads, and would slide like crazy. I drive very slow and cautiously because of this, but I'd still be all over the road. Doing 50 mph on the highway in rain, I've felt it hydroplaning. I've read about the BFG KO's having better features to improve the slippery conditions. I'm wondering if the wider 31x10.5" will be any worse, or better than the stock 30" GSA's that were so squirrely, due to their improved siping, tread etc... ? thanks Jeff news:<20031223004321.01560.00000860@mb-m20.aol.com>... > << I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1 > or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda > sluggish to me, with the six cyl >> > > What is your jeep geared? 30's are about as big as is practical with 3.07's > and a 5-speed tranny. > > -jeff |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
No it's 3.73. I'm sure. But my first jeep, a 97 tj, had 3.07 gears
and the stock 225 tires on it. That thing had some pickup on it. It was pretty quick on the highways and I remember getting 20+ mpg city/highway mix. The 3.73 with the 30's on my 98 is a little pig when it comes to gas guzzlin'. MPG is about 4 mpg less. Besides Gas mileage, the thing I didn't like about the the Goodyear 30" stock tires is that they were terrible on snowy roads, and would slide like crazy. I drive very slow and cautiously because of this, but I'd still be all over the road. Doing 50 mph on the highway in rain, I've felt it hydroplaning. I've read about the BFG KO's having better features to improve the slippery conditions. I'm wondering if the wider 31x10.5" will be any worse, or better than the stock 30" GSA's that were so squirrely, due to their improved siping, tread etc... ? thanks Jeff news:<20031223004321.01560.00000860@mb-m20.aol.com>... > << I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1 > or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda > sluggish to me, with the six cyl >> > > What is your jeep geared? 30's are about as big as is practical with 3.07's > and a 5-speed tranny. > > -jeff |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
No it's 3.73. I'm sure. But my first jeep, a 97 tj, had 3.07 gears
and the stock 225 tires on it. That thing had some pickup on it. It was pretty quick on the highways and I remember getting 20+ mpg city/highway mix. The 3.73 with the 30's on my 98 is a little pig when it comes to gas guzzlin'. MPG is about 4 mpg less. Besides Gas mileage, the thing I didn't like about the the Goodyear 30" stock tires is that they were terrible on snowy roads, and would slide like crazy. I drive very slow and cautiously because of this, but I'd still be all over the road. Doing 50 mph on the highway in rain, I've felt it hydroplaning. I've read about the BFG KO's having better features to improve the slippery conditions. I'm wondering if the wider 31x10.5" will be any worse, or better than the stock 30" GSA's that were so squirrely, due to their improved siping, tread etc... ? thanks Jeff news:<20031223004321.01560.00000860@mb-m20.aol.com>... > << I originally went with the 30's over 31's so I didn't lose an extra 1 > or 2 mpg's, and lose more power. The stock 30's even felt kinda > sluggish to me, with the six cyl >> > > What is your jeep geared? 30's are about as big as is practical with 3.07's > and a 5-speed tranny. > > -jeff |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Sorry about the delay, went home for the holidays!!
I had the 30s on the Jeep from May of '99 to Nov of '00, and put the '31s on at that point. I moved from Chicago to Dallas in June of '02, so I had some Chicago winters with both sets, and IMHO I didn't notice an appreciable difference between them. I keep my tires at about 30psi, I don't know if that makes enough of a difference. I don't have ABS, so was probably a little more cautious about the possibility of hydroplaning or sliding while driving, but the only times that I can remember having a problem were once trying to take a right hand curve on slush a little too fast (and I couldn't tell you if that was on the 30s or 31s), and once intentionally doing doughnuts to show my niece from California what they were (that was definitely on the 31s!). ::grin:: I'm now in Texas, and was totally happy with the way they performed in the snow we had here last February when we had a couple of days of it. I was running through the unpacked snow on the roads (as opposed to the ice-bottomed ruts that everyone else had carved out), and spent a couple of hours on the drive home from work pushing people up a hill because there was a sheen of ice on it and they couldn't get up it. =D As a side note, I'm still on my original set of 31s from 11/00, and they've still got about 35% tread left on them after three years and around 60K miles. Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312230104.1842d931@posting.google.c om... > That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30" > goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and > slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy > roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? > > I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return > policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day > satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking > up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I > paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! > > One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a > little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > > > Tirya wrote: > > > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > > > anything. > > > > > > Tirya > > > -- > > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > __________________________________________________ _________ > > tw > > 03 TJ Rubicon > > 01 XJ Sport > > > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > > unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." > > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > > a woman." > > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Sorry about the delay, went home for the holidays!!
I had the 30s on the Jeep from May of '99 to Nov of '00, and put the '31s on at that point. I moved from Chicago to Dallas in June of '02, so I had some Chicago winters with both sets, and IMHO I didn't notice an appreciable difference between them. I keep my tires at about 30psi, I don't know if that makes enough of a difference. I don't have ABS, so was probably a little more cautious about the possibility of hydroplaning or sliding while driving, but the only times that I can remember having a problem were once trying to take a right hand curve on slush a little too fast (and I couldn't tell you if that was on the 30s or 31s), and once intentionally doing doughnuts to show my niece from California what they were (that was definitely on the 31s!). ::grin:: I'm now in Texas, and was totally happy with the way they performed in the snow we had here last February when we had a couple of days of it. I was running through the unpacked snow on the roads (as opposed to the ice-bottomed ruts that everyone else had carved out), and spent a couple of hours on the drive home from work pushing people up a hill because there was a sheen of ice on it and they couldn't get up it. =D As a side note, I'm still on my original set of 31s from 11/00, and they've still got about 35% tread left on them after three years and around 60K miles. Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312230104.1842d931@posting.google.c om... > That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30" > goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and > slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy > roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? > > I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return > policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day > satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking > up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I > paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! > > One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a > little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > > > Tirya wrote: > > > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > > > anything. > > > > > > Tirya > > > -- > > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > __________________________________________________ _________ > > tw > > 03 TJ Rubicon > > 01 XJ Sport > > > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > > unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." > > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > > a woman." > > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Sorry about the delay, went home for the holidays!!
I had the 30s on the Jeep from May of '99 to Nov of '00, and put the '31s on at that point. I moved from Chicago to Dallas in June of '02, so I had some Chicago winters with both sets, and IMHO I didn't notice an appreciable difference between them. I keep my tires at about 30psi, I don't know if that makes enough of a difference. I don't have ABS, so was probably a little more cautious about the possibility of hydroplaning or sliding while driving, but the only times that I can remember having a problem were once trying to take a right hand curve on slush a little too fast (and I couldn't tell you if that was on the 30s or 31s), and once intentionally doing doughnuts to show my niece from California what they were (that was definitely on the 31s!). ::grin:: I'm now in Texas, and was totally happy with the way they performed in the snow we had here last February when we had a couple of days of it. I was running through the unpacked snow on the roads (as opposed to the ice-bottomed ruts that everyone else had carved out), and spent a couple of hours on the drive home from work pushing people up a hill because there was a sheen of ice on it and they couldn't get up it. =D As a side note, I'm still on my original set of 31s from 11/00, and they've still got about 35% tread left on them after three years and around 60K miles. Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:b15a3f2e.0312230104.1842d931@posting.google.c om... > That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30" > goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and > slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy > roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? > > I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return > policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day > satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking > up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I > paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! > > One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a > little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > > > Tirya wrote: > > > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in front, D35 > > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I have on > > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 RPM > > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my Jeep!!! > > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), which > > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade it for > > > anything. > > > > > > Tirya > > > -- > > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > __________________________________________________ _________ > > tw > > 03 TJ Rubicon > > 01 XJ Sport > > > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > > unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know." > > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > > a woman." > > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Oh that's O.K. I'm glad you wrote back. That's great news about the
snow handling. That was my main concern. I ended up taking back the 30's and went with 31's! The NTB guy gave me full credit after all. Even without me asking for it. Wow. I love the look of 31's, fill out the wheel well- perfect for the tj. I don't think I'm gonna get the mpg you're getting though. I do have 3.73 gears so I still have decent pickup and a fifth gear. I had a little trouble with the spare fitting, so I shaved the bumper thingies down. Mounted yesterday, and fit great. One bummer is that I've been rubbing a lot. Just normal driving yesterday, I find I have to take wide turns instead of those quick cuts and U turns. Just pulling into parking spaces!! That kinda sucks. I have to do the washer thing, but I don't like losing all that turn angle. I've had my tj for over six years now, and it's hard to break old habits, I'm just used to those turns. I gotta do the washer trick. Overall I'm happier with the 31's. Look and ride. Thanks for all the help and support! Jeff "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message news:<3CqIb.175728$8y1.536144@attbi_s52>... > Sorry about the delay, went home for the holidays!! > > I had the 30s on the Jeep from May of '99 to Nov of '00, and put the '31s on > at that point. I moved from Chicago to Dallas in June of '02, so I had some > Chicago winters with both sets, and IMHO I didn't notice an appreciable > difference between them. I keep my tires at about 30psi, I don't know if that > makes enough of a difference. I don't have ABS, so was probably a little more > cautious about the possibility of hydroplaning or sliding while driving, but > the only times that I can remember having a problem were once trying to take a > right hand curve on slush a little too fast (and I couldn't tell you if that > was on the 30s or 31s), and once intentionally doing doughnuts to show my > niece from California what they were (that was definitely on the 31s!). > ::grin:: > > I'm now in Texas, and was totally happy with the way they performed in the > snow we had here last February when we had a couple of days of it. I was > running through the unpacked snow on the roads (as opposed to the ice-bottomed > ruts that everyone else had carved out), and spent a couple of hours on the > drive home from work pushing people up a hill because there was a sheen of ice > on it and they couldn't get up it. =D > > As a side note, I'm still on my original set of 31s from 11/00, and they've > still got about 35% tread left on them after three years and around 60K miles. > > Tirya > -- > TDC Inca Jeeper > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312230104.1842d931@posting.google.c om... > > That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30" > > goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and > > slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy > > roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? > > > > I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return > > policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day > > satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking > > up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I > > paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! > > > > One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a > > little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > > > > > Tirya wrote: > > > > > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in > front, D35 > > > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I > have on > > > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 > RPM > > > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my > Jeep!!! > > > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), > which > > > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade > it for > > > > anything. > > > > > > > > Tirya > > > > -- > > > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > > > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > > > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > > > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > __________________________________________________ _________ > > > tw > > > 03 TJ Rubicon > > > 01 XJ Sport > > > > > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > > > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > > > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > > > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > > > unknown unknowns ? the ones we don't know we don't know." > > > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > > > > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > > > a woman." > > > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Oh that's O.K. I'm glad you wrote back. That's great news about the
snow handling. That was my main concern. I ended up taking back the 30's and went with 31's! The NTB guy gave me full credit after all. Even without me asking for it. Wow. I love the look of 31's, fill out the wheel well- perfect for the tj. I don't think I'm gonna get the mpg you're getting though. I do have 3.73 gears so I still have decent pickup and a fifth gear. I had a little trouble with the spare fitting, so I shaved the bumper thingies down. Mounted yesterday, and fit great. One bummer is that I've been rubbing a lot. Just normal driving yesterday, I find I have to take wide turns instead of those quick cuts and U turns. Just pulling into parking spaces!! That kinda sucks. I have to do the washer thing, but I don't like losing all that turn angle. I've had my tj for over six years now, and it's hard to break old habits, I'm just used to those turns. I gotta do the washer trick. Overall I'm happier with the 31's. Look and ride. Thanks for all the help and support! Jeff "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message news:<3CqIb.175728$8y1.536144@attbi_s52>... > Sorry about the delay, went home for the holidays!! > > I had the 30s on the Jeep from May of '99 to Nov of '00, and put the '31s on > at that point. I moved from Chicago to Dallas in June of '02, so I had some > Chicago winters with both sets, and IMHO I didn't notice an appreciable > difference between them. I keep my tires at about 30psi, I don't know if that > makes enough of a difference. I don't have ABS, so was probably a little more > cautious about the possibility of hydroplaning or sliding while driving, but > the only times that I can remember having a problem were once trying to take a > right hand curve on slush a little too fast (and I couldn't tell you if that > was on the 30s or 31s), and once intentionally doing doughnuts to show my > niece from California what they were (that was definitely on the 31s!). > ::grin:: > > I'm now in Texas, and was totally happy with the way they performed in the > snow we had here last February when we had a couple of days of it. I was > running through the unpacked snow on the roads (as opposed to the ice-bottomed > ruts that everyone else had carved out), and spent a couple of hours on the > drive home from work pushing people up a hill because there was a sheen of ice > on it and they couldn't get up it. =D > > As a side note, I'm still on my original set of 31s from 11/00, and they've > still got about 35% tread left on them after three years and around 60K miles. > > Tirya > -- > TDC Inca Jeeper > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312230104.1842d931@posting.google.c om... > > That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30" > > goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and > > slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy > > roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? > > > > I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return > > policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day > > satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking > > up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I > > paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! > > > > One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a > > little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > > > > > Tirya wrote: > > > > > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in > front, D35 > > > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I > have on > > > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 > RPM > > > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my > Jeep!!! > > > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), > which > > > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade > it for > > > > anything. > > > > > > > > Tirya > > > > -- > > > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > > > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > > > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > > > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > __________________________________________________ _________ > > > tw > > > 03 TJ Rubicon > > > 01 XJ Sport > > > > > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > > > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > > > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > > > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > > > unknown unknowns ? the ones we don't know we don't know." > > > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > > > > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > > > a woman." > > > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
Oh that's O.K. I'm glad you wrote back. That's great news about the
snow handling. That was my main concern. I ended up taking back the 30's and went with 31's! The NTB guy gave me full credit after all. Even without me asking for it. Wow. I love the look of 31's, fill out the wheel well- perfect for the tj. I don't think I'm gonna get the mpg you're getting though. I do have 3.73 gears so I still have decent pickup and a fifth gear. I had a little trouble with the spare fitting, so I shaved the bumper thingies down. Mounted yesterday, and fit great. One bummer is that I've been rubbing a lot. Just normal driving yesterday, I find I have to take wide turns instead of those quick cuts and U turns. Just pulling into parking spaces!! That kinda sucks. I have to do the washer thing, but I don't like losing all that turn angle. I've had my tj for over six years now, and it's hard to break old habits, I'm just used to those turns. I gotta do the washer trick. Overall I'm happier with the 31's. Look and ride. Thanks for all the help and support! Jeff "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote in message news:<3CqIb.175728$8y1.536144@attbi_s52>... > Sorry about the delay, went home for the holidays!! > > I had the 30s on the Jeep from May of '99 to Nov of '00, and put the '31s on > at that point. I moved from Chicago to Dallas in June of '02, so I had some > Chicago winters with both sets, and IMHO I didn't notice an appreciable > difference between them. I keep my tires at about 30psi, I don't know if that > makes enough of a difference. I don't have ABS, so was probably a little more > cautious about the possibility of hydroplaning or sliding while driving, but > the only times that I can remember having a problem were once trying to take a > right hand curve on slush a little too fast (and I couldn't tell you if that > was on the 30s or 31s), and once intentionally doing doughnuts to show my > niece from California what they were (that was definitely on the 31s!). > ::grin:: > > I'm now in Texas, and was totally happy with the way they performed in the > snow we had here last February when we had a couple of days of it. I was > running through the unpacked snow on the roads (as opposed to the ice-bottomed > ruts that everyone else had carved out), and spent a couple of hours on the > drive home from work pushing people up a hill because there was a sheen of ice > on it and they couldn't get up it. =D > > As a side note, I'm still on my original set of 31s from 11/00, and they've > still got about 35% tread left on them after three years and around 60K miles. > > Tirya > -- > TDC Inca Jeeper > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > news:b15a3f2e.0312230104.1842d931@posting.google.c om... > > That mileage is pretty good. That's about mine with the stock 30" > > goodyears and 3.73 gearing. Do you drive those tires a lot in snow and > > slippery highways? How do they do on slippery highways and snowy > > roads? Are they prone to hydroplane ? > > > > I called NTB today and found out that they no longer offer the return > > policy!!! Bummer. They said they stopped doing the 30 day > > satisfaction a year or so ago. I guess it's my fault for not asking > > up front. Only thing they'll do is give me about 75% credit on what I > > paid as trade in. After only 20 miles! > > > > One thing about the BFG 30" AT's I have right now. They kinda look a > > little smaller than the stock GSA's I had. Probably psychological. > > > > > > Tirya wrote: > > > > > > > I'm running the stock gearing that came with the '99 Sahara (D30 in > front, D35 > > > > in back) which would make it 3.73, I think? The only modification I > have on > > > > it is the 31x10.5.15 tires - everything else is stock. I run about 2200 > RPM > > > > on the highway, at about 60-70MPH in fifth. > > > > > > > > It's four and a half years old, and has 106K miles on it - I *LOVE* my > Jeep!!! > > > > It's also my daily driver, averages about 16-18 MPG (city/highway mix), > which > > > > was kinda pricey when gas was up around $2/gallon, but I wouldn't trade > it for > > > > anything. > > > > > > > > Tirya > > > > -- > > > > TDC Inca Jeeper > > > > A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. > > > > > > > > "stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message > > > > news:b15a3f2e.0312212051.4803845d@posting.google.c om... > > > > > > > >>Tirya, very nice. Now I really want to get the 31's. What kind of > > > >>gearing do you have and what kind of mpg are you getting? Is it > > > >>decent in fifth gear on the highway? I still have to be somewhat > > > >>pratical. It's my only ride. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > __________________________________________________ _________ > > > tw > > > 03 TJ Rubicon > > > 01 XJ Sport > > > > > > "Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting > > > to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things > > > we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to > > > say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also > > > unknown unknowns ? the ones we don't know we don't know." > > > -- Donald Rumsfeld (2003) > > > > > > "I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and > > > a woman." > > > -- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003) > > > > > > __________________________________________________ _________ |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
"stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:b15a3f2e.0312310826.22f76efa@posting.google.c om... > Oh that's O.K. I'm glad you wrote back. That's great news about the > snow handling. That was my main concern. I ended up taking back the > 30's and went with 31's! The NTB guy gave me full credit after all. > Even without me asking for it. Wow. I love the look of 31's, fill > out the wheel well- perfect for the tj. I don't think I'm gonna get > the mpg you're getting though. I do have 3.73 gears so I still have > decent pickup and a fifth gear. I had a little trouble with the spare > fitting, so I shaved the bumper thingies down. Mounted yesterday, and > fit great. I removed all of the rubber bumpers on the tailgate - fits perfectly now, and the rubber of the tire itself takes care of protecting the gate. > One bummer is that I've been rubbing a lot. Just normal driving > yesterday, I find I have to take wide turns instead of those quick > cuts and U turns. Just pulling into parking spaces!! That kinda sucks. > I have to do the washer thing, but I don't like losing all that turn > angle. I've had my tj for over six years now, and it's hard to break > old habits, I'm just used to those turns. I gotta do the washer trick. > Overall I'm happier with the 31's. Look and ride. Thanks for all > the help and support Yeah, you do lose a little bit of the radius, but it still turns REAL nice... =D So... when do we get to see pics? Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
"stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:b15a3f2e.0312310826.22f76efa@posting.google.c om... > Oh that's O.K. I'm glad you wrote back. That's great news about the > snow handling. That was my main concern. I ended up taking back the > 30's and went with 31's! The NTB guy gave me full credit after all. > Even without me asking for it. Wow. I love the look of 31's, fill > out the wheel well- perfect for the tj. I don't think I'm gonna get > the mpg you're getting though. I do have 3.73 gears so I still have > decent pickup and a fifth gear. I had a little trouble with the spare > fitting, so I shaved the bumper thingies down. Mounted yesterday, and > fit great. I removed all of the rubber bumpers on the tailgate - fits perfectly now, and the rubber of the tire itself takes care of protecting the gate. > One bummer is that I've been rubbing a lot. Just normal driving > yesterday, I find I have to take wide turns instead of those quick > cuts and U turns. Just pulling into parking spaces!! That kinda sucks. > I have to do the washer thing, but I don't like losing all that turn > angle. I've had my tj for over six years now, and it's hard to break > old habits, I'm just used to those turns. I gotta do the washer trick. > Overall I'm happier with the 31's. Look and ride. Thanks for all > the help and support Yeah, you do lose a little bit of the radius, but it still turns REAL nice... =D So... when do we get to see pics? Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
"stephjeff" <bag@centurytel.net> wrote in message
news:b15a3f2e.0312310826.22f76efa@posting.google.c om... > Oh that's O.K. I'm glad you wrote back. That's great news about the > snow handling. That was my main concern. I ended up taking back the > 30's and went with 31's! The NTB guy gave me full credit after all. > Even without me asking for it. Wow. I love the look of 31's, fill > out the wheel well- perfect for the tj. I don't think I'm gonna get > the mpg you're getting though. I do have 3.73 gears so I still have > decent pickup and a fifth gear. I had a little trouble with the spare > fitting, so I shaved the bumper thingies down. Mounted yesterday, and > fit great. I removed all of the rubber bumpers on the tailgate - fits perfectly now, and the rubber of the tire itself takes care of protecting the gate. > One bummer is that I've been rubbing a lot. Just normal driving > yesterday, I find I have to take wide turns instead of those quick > cuts and U turns. Just pulling into parking spaces!! That kinda sucks. > I have to do the washer thing, but I don't like losing all that turn > angle. I've had my tj for over six years now, and it's hard to break > old habits, I'm just used to those turns. I gotta do the washer trick. > Overall I'm happier with the 31's. Look and ride. Thanks for all > the help and support Yeah, you do lose a little bit of the radius, but it still turns REAL nice... =D So... when do we get to see pics? Tirya -- TDC Inca Jeeper A dirty Jeep is a happy Jeep. |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 02:35:04 GMT, "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote:
>I removed all of the rubber bumpers on the tailgate - fits perfectly now, and >the rubber of the tire itself takes care of protecting the gate. It's not about protecting the gate... it's about giving the spare enough support to keep its weight from bending something. If the only thing supporting your spare is the center hub area of the wheel, something is going to give eventually. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 02:35:04 GMT, "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote:
>I removed all of the rubber bumpers on the tailgate - fits perfectly now, and >the rubber of the tire itself takes care of protecting the gate. It's not about protecting the gate... it's about giving the spare enough support to keep its weight from bending something. If the only thing supporting your spare is the center hub area of the wheel, something is going to give eventually. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm |
Re: More 30" vs. 31" BFG tire questions
On Thu, 01 Jan 2004 02:35:04 GMT, "Tirya" <Tirya@spamfree.addy> wrote:
>I removed all of the rubber bumpers on the tailgate - fits perfectly now, and >the rubber of the tire itself takes care of protecting the gate. It's not about protecting the gate... it's about giving the spare enough support to keep its weight from bending something. If the only thing supporting your spare is the center hub area of the wheel, something is going to give eventually. Dave http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm |
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