modifications question
04-13-2004, 10:42 AM
#31
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
I live here in the Denver area. I do most of the stuff myself, aside
from diff gears or major engine work. However, when I do get stuff
done, I've tried a number of shops around the area. I'm listing them
in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
1) Four Wheel Parts ... stay away (at least from the service dept).
They're like the Wal-Mart of offroading. They do have good prices on
specific parts (such as winches, straps, hilift jacks, etc.), but I
don't feel all that confident having the vehicle worked on there.
Heard some stories (first hand) from friends...
2) All-American 4x4 Repair ... this is located on the south side of
Denver near C-470 and Santa Fe. Not exactly close to your neck of the
woods. They do decent work, but suck at responsiveness, and are still
somewhat expensive for labor. I had them do my exhaust manifold
replacement. My biggest complaint about them is the guy who answers
the phone annoys me, they won't let me make an appointment for work,
(they just say "Bring it down and we'll look at it"), and when I do
bring it in, they never call me with status, and don't even START on
my vehicle until they've had it idle in their shop parking lot for a
day or two (with me calling to ask, and them simply saying "we haven't
gotten to it yet, we'll do it next and call you back in a couple
hours"...no call...ugh). Needless to say, I won't take my jeep there
anymore because of this crappy customer service. They don't seem to
understand that I don't want to be without my only, daily-driver,
vehicle for 4 days just to get the stupid exhaust manifold replaced
(which took them all of probably 2 hours, on the fourth day).
3) High Country 4x4 ... They seemed cool to me at first. Then I
realized they push Teraflex a little TOO much. It seems obvious
they're getting kickbacks. I mean, they were trying to tell a friend
of mine they'd "never heard of" anyone putting a Rubicon Express 4.5"
lift on a ...'03 Rubicon. Bull! So I don't always trust any advice I
get from them. They do do good work though and will let you schedule
appointments. And their sales folks are reasonably knowledgeable and
helpful. I had them weld on my new front lower control arm mounts when
I tore one off a while back. Labor normal to a bit high: $85/hr.
4) Wild West Off Road ... So far these guys are my favorites. I'm
having them do my gears (4.56) and lockers (ARBs) right now (they did
it all yesterday, in one day...I'm picking it up today). They let me
schedule an appointment and everything. They're also (so far) very
good about accuracy in estimates and time, and getting back to me via
phone, even late (they called me at 6:30 PM last night to tell me the
gears/lockers were done). Their labor rate is also nicer, at $75/hr.
They seem to be honest and fair, so far, and they're really nice. They
only charged me exactly 8.4 hrs work for my gears & lockers install.
They've given me a quick tour of their shop and taken me back to see
some stuff they were talking about on a rig back there without any
question. They're over in the same area as High Country, near Santa Fe
and Hampden Ave. Still on the south side of downtown Denver, but
closer in to town.
5) I have a friend who lives up in your preferred area; I asked if
she's got any shop recommendations up there. I know she liked the
people she had put in her York OBA system. I'll post here with
whatever she sends me.
Good luck. Welcome to the addiction ;-)
Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
(www.jeeperman.com) "Trail Skidz" (same as the "Rock Skidz", but with
a plate welded on top to provide a better step than the bar alone).
They're plenty strong to work as rocker protection (or jack point),
they don't mess up your clearance that much (and provide much more
clearance than most crappy sidesteps or any nerf bars you come
across). I like them because they don't require me to drill my frame
or body. Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
from diff gears or major engine work. However, when I do get stuff
done, I've tried a number of shops around the area. I'm listing them
in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
1) Four Wheel Parts ... stay away (at least from the service dept).
They're like the Wal-Mart of offroading. They do have good prices on
specific parts (such as winches, straps, hilift jacks, etc.), but I
don't feel all that confident having the vehicle worked on there.
Heard some stories (first hand) from friends...
2) All-American 4x4 Repair ... this is located on the south side of
Denver near C-470 and Santa Fe. Not exactly close to your neck of the
woods. They do decent work, but suck at responsiveness, and are still
somewhat expensive for labor. I had them do my exhaust manifold
replacement. My biggest complaint about them is the guy who answers
the phone annoys me, they won't let me make an appointment for work,
(they just say "Bring it down and we'll look at it"), and when I do
bring it in, they never call me with status, and don't even START on
my vehicle until they've had it idle in their shop parking lot for a
day or two (with me calling to ask, and them simply saying "we haven't
gotten to it yet, we'll do it next and call you back in a couple
hours"...no call...ugh). Needless to say, I won't take my jeep there
anymore because of this crappy customer service. They don't seem to
understand that I don't want to be without my only, daily-driver,
vehicle for 4 days just to get the stupid exhaust manifold replaced
(which took them all of probably 2 hours, on the fourth day).
3) High Country 4x4 ... They seemed cool to me at first. Then I
realized they push Teraflex a little TOO much. It seems obvious
they're getting kickbacks. I mean, they were trying to tell a friend
of mine they'd "never heard of" anyone putting a Rubicon Express 4.5"
lift on a ...'03 Rubicon. Bull! So I don't always trust any advice I
get from them. They do do good work though and will let you schedule
appointments. And their sales folks are reasonably knowledgeable and
helpful. I had them weld on my new front lower control arm mounts when
I tore one off a while back. Labor normal to a bit high: $85/hr.
4) Wild West Off Road ... So far these guys are my favorites. I'm
having them do my gears (4.56) and lockers (ARBs) right now (they did
it all yesterday, in one day...I'm picking it up today). They let me
schedule an appointment and everything. They're also (so far) very
good about accuracy in estimates and time, and getting back to me via
phone, even late (they called me at 6:30 PM last night to tell me the
gears/lockers were done). Their labor rate is also nicer, at $75/hr.
They seem to be honest and fair, so far, and they're really nice. They
only charged me exactly 8.4 hrs work for my gears & lockers install.
They've given me a quick tour of their shop and taken me back to see
some stuff they were talking about on a rig back there without any
question. They're over in the same area as High Country, near Santa Fe
and Hampden Ave. Still on the south side of downtown Denver, but
closer in to town.
5) I have a friend who lives up in your preferred area; I asked if
she's got any shop recommendations up there. I know she liked the
people she had put in her York OBA system. I'll post here with
whatever she sends me.
Good luck. Welcome to the addiction ;-)
Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
(www.jeeperman.com) "Trail Skidz" (same as the "Rock Skidz", but with
a plate welded on top to provide a better step than the bar alone).
They're plenty strong to work as rocker protection (or jack point),
they don't mess up your clearance that much (and provide much more
clearance than most crappy sidesteps or any nerf bars you come
across). I like them because they don't require me to drill my frame
or body. Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 10:42 AM
#32
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
I live here in the Denver area. I do most of the stuff myself, aside
from diff gears or major engine work. However, when I do get stuff
done, I've tried a number of shops around the area. I'm listing them
in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
1) Four Wheel Parts ... stay away (at least from the service dept).
They're like the Wal-Mart of offroading. They do have good prices on
specific parts (such as winches, straps, hilift jacks, etc.), but I
don't feel all that confident having the vehicle worked on there.
Heard some stories (first hand) from friends...
2) All-American 4x4 Repair ... this is located on the south side of
Denver near C-470 and Santa Fe. Not exactly close to your neck of the
woods. They do decent work, but suck at responsiveness, and are still
somewhat expensive for labor. I had them do my exhaust manifold
replacement. My biggest complaint about them is the guy who answers
the phone annoys me, they won't let me make an appointment for work,
(they just say "Bring it down and we'll look at it"), and when I do
bring it in, they never call me with status, and don't even START on
my vehicle until they've had it idle in their shop parking lot for a
day or two (with me calling to ask, and them simply saying "we haven't
gotten to it yet, we'll do it next and call you back in a couple
hours"...no call...ugh). Needless to say, I won't take my jeep there
anymore because of this crappy customer service. They don't seem to
understand that I don't want to be without my only, daily-driver,
vehicle for 4 days just to get the stupid exhaust manifold replaced
(which took them all of probably 2 hours, on the fourth day).
3) High Country 4x4 ... They seemed cool to me at first. Then I
realized they push Teraflex a little TOO much. It seems obvious
they're getting kickbacks. I mean, they were trying to tell a friend
of mine they'd "never heard of" anyone putting a Rubicon Express 4.5"
lift on a ...'03 Rubicon. Bull! So I don't always trust any advice I
get from them. They do do good work though and will let you schedule
appointments. And their sales folks are reasonably knowledgeable and
helpful. I had them weld on my new front lower control arm mounts when
I tore one off a while back. Labor normal to a bit high: $85/hr.
4) Wild West Off Road ... So far these guys are my favorites. I'm
having them do my gears (4.56) and lockers (ARBs) right now (they did
it all yesterday, in one day...I'm picking it up today). They let me
schedule an appointment and everything. They're also (so far) very
good about accuracy in estimates and time, and getting back to me via
phone, even late (they called me at 6:30 PM last night to tell me the
gears/lockers were done). Their labor rate is also nicer, at $75/hr.
They seem to be honest and fair, so far, and they're really nice. They
only charged me exactly 8.4 hrs work for my gears & lockers install.
They've given me a quick tour of their shop and taken me back to see
some stuff they were talking about on a rig back there without any
question. They're over in the same area as High Country, near Santa Fe
and Hampden Ave. Still on the south side of downtown Denver, but
closer in to town.
5) I have a friend who lives up in your preferred area; I asked if
she's got any shop recommendations up there. I know she liked the
people she had put in her York OBA system. I'll post here with
whatever she sends me.
Good luck. Welcome to the addiction ;-)
Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
(www.jeeperman.com) "Trail Skidz" (same as the "Rock Skidz", but with
a plate welded on top to provide a better step than the bar alone).
They're plenty strong to work as rocker protection (or jack point),
they don't mess up your clearance that much (and provide much more
clearance than most crappy sidesteps or any nerf bars you come
across). I like them because they don't require me to drill my frame
or body. Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
from diff gears or major engine work. However, when I do get stuff
done, I've tried a number of shops around the area. I'm listing them
in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
1) Four Wheel Parts ... stay away (at least from the service dept).
They're like the Wal-Mart of offroading. They do have good prices on
specific parts (such as winches, straps, hilift jacks, etc.), but I
don't feel all that confident having the vehicle worked on there.
Heard some stories (first hand) from friends...
2) All-American 4x4 Repair ... this is located on the south side of
Denver near C-470 and Santa Fe. Not exactly close to your neck of the
woods. They do decent work, but suck at responsiveness, and are still
somewhat expensive for labor. I had them do my exhaust manifold
replacement. My biggest complaint about them is the guy who answers
the phone annoys me, they won't let me make an appointment for work,
(they just say "Bring it down and we'll look at it"), and when I do
bring it in, they never call me with status, and don't even START on
my vehicle until they've had it idle in their shop parking lot for a
day or two (with me calling to ask, and them simply saying "we haven't
gotten to it yet, we'll do it next and call you back in a couple
hours"...no call...ugh). Needless to say, I won't take my jeep there
anymore because of this crappy customer service. They don't seem to
understand that I don't want to be without my only, daily-driver,
vehicle for 4 days just to get the stupid exhaust manifold replaced
(which took them all of probably 2 hours, on the fourth day).
3) High Country 4x4 ... They seemed cool to me at first. Then I
realized they push Teraflex a little TOO much. It seems obvious
they're getting kickbacks. I mean, they were trying to tell a friend
of mine they'd "never heard of" anyone putting a Rubicon Express 4.5"
lift on a ...'03 Rubicon. Bull! So I don't always trust any advice I
get from them. They do do good work though and will let you schedule
appointments. And their sales folks are reasonably knowledgeable and
helpful. I had them weld on my new front lower control arm mounts when
I tore one off a while back. Labor normal to a bit high: $85/hr.
4) Wild West Off Road ... So far these guys are my favorites. I'm
having them do my gears (4.56) and lockers (ARBs) right now (they did
it all yesterday, in one day...I'm picking it up today). They let me
schedule an appointment and everything. They're also (so far) very
good about accuracy in estimates and time, and getting back to me via
phone, even late (they called me at 6:30 PM last night to tell me the
gears/lockers were done). Their labor rate is also nicer, at $75/hr.
They seem to be honest and fair, so far, and they're really nice. They
only charged me exactly 8.4 hrs work for my gears & lockers install.
They've given me a quick tour of their shop and taken me back to see
some stuff they were talking about on a rig back there without any
question. They're over in the same area as High Country, near Santa Fe
and Hampden Ave. Still on the south side of downtown Denver, but
closer in to town.
5) I have a friend who lives up in your preferred area; I asked if
she's got any shop recommendations up there. I know she liked the
people she had put in her York OBA system. I'll post here with
whatever she sends me.
Good luck. Welcome to the addiction ;-)
Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
(www.jeeperman.com) "Trail Skidz" (same as the "Rock Skidz", but with
a plate welded on top to provide a better step than the bar alone).
They're plenty strong to work as rocker protection (or jack point),
they don't mess up your clearance that much (and provide much more
clearance than most crappy sidesteps or any nerf bars you come
across). I like them because they don't require me to drill my frame
or body. Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 10:42 AM
#33
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
I live here in the Denver area. I do most of the stuff myself, aside
from diff gears or major engine work. However, when I do get stuff
done, I've tried a number of shops around the area. I'm listing them
in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
1) Four Wheel Parts ... stay away (at least from the service dept).
They're like the Wal-Mart of offroading. They do have good prices on
specific parts (such as winches, straps, hilift jacks, etc.), but I
don't feel all that confident having the vehicle worked on there.
Heard some stories (first hand) from friends...
2) All-American 4x4 Repair ... this is located on the south side of
Denver near C-470 and Santa Fe. Not exactly close to your neck of the
woods. They do decent work, but suck at responsiveness, and are still
somewhat expensive for labor. I had them do my exhaust manifold
replacement. My biggest complaint about them is the guy who answers
the phone annoys me, they won't let me make an appointment for work,
(they just say "Bring it down and we'll look at it"), and when I do
bring it in, they never call me with status, and don't even START on
my vehicle until they've had it idle in their shop parking lot for a
day or two (with me calling to ask, and them simply saying "we haven't
gotten to it yet, we'll do it next and call you back in a couple
hours"...no call...ugh). Needless to say, I won't take my jeep there
anymore because of this crappy customer service. They don't seem to
understand that I don't want to be without my only, daily-driver,
vehicle for 4 days just to get the stupid exhaust manifold replaced
(which took them all of probably 2 hours, on the fourth day).
3) High Country 4x4 ... They seemed cool to me at first. Then I
realized they push Teraflex a little TOO much. It seems obvious
they're getting kickbacks. I mean, they were trying to tell a friend
of mine they'd "never heard of" anyone putting a Rubicon Express 4.5"
lift on a ...'03 Rubicon. Bull! So I don't always trust any advice I
get from them. They do do good work though and will let you schedule
appointments. And their sales folks are reasonably knowledgeable and
helpful. I had them weld on my new front lower control arm mounts when
I tore one off a while back. Labor normal to a bit high: $85/hr.
4) Wild West Off Road ... So far these guys are my favorites. I'm
having them do my gears (4.56) and lockers (ARBs) right now (they did
it all yesterday, in one day...I'm picking it up today). They let me
schedule an appointment and everything. They're also (so far) very
good about accuracy in estimates and time, and getting back to me via
phone, even late (they called me at 6:30 PM last night to tell me the
gears/lockers were done). Their labor rate is also nicer, at $75/hr.
They seem to be honest and fair, so far, and they're really nice. They
only charged me exactly 8.4 hrs work for my gears & lockers install.
They've given me a quick tour of their shop and taken me back to see
some stuff they were talking about on a rig back there without any
question. They're over in the same area as High Country, near Santa Fe
and Hampden Ave. Still on the south side of downtown Denver, but
closer in to town.
5) I have a friend who lives up in your preferred area; I asked if
she's got any shop recommendations up there. I know she liked the
people she had put in her York OBA system. I'll post here with
whatever she sends me.
Good luck. Welcome to the addiction ;-)
Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
(www.jeeperman.com) "Trail Skidz" (same as the "Rock Skidz", but with
a plate welded on top to provide a better step than the bar alone).
They're plenty strong to work as rocker protection (or jack point),
they don't mess up your clearance that much (and provide much more
clearance than most crappy sidesteps or any nerf bars you come
across). I like them because they don't require me to drill my frame
or body. Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
from diff gears or major engine work. However, when I do get stuff
done, I've tried a number of shops around the area. I'm listing them
in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
1) Four Wheel Parts ... stay away (at least from the service dept).
They're like the Wal-Mart of offroading. They do have good prices on
specific parts (such as winches, straps, hilift jacks, etc.), but I
don't feel all that confident having the vehicle worked on there.
Heard some stories (first hand) from friends...
2) All-American 4x4 Repair ... this is located on the south side of
Denver near C-470 and Santa Fe. Not exactly close to your neck of the
woods. They do decent work, but suck at responsiveness, and are still
somewhat expensive for labor. I had them do my exhaust manifold
replacement. My biggest complaint about them is the guy who answers
the phone annoys me, they won't let me make an appointment for work,
(they just say "Bring it down and we'll look at it"), and when I do
bring it in, they never call me with status, and don't even START on
my vehicle until they've had it idle in their shop parking lot for a
day or two (with me calling to ask, and them simply saying "we haven't
gotten to it yet, we'll do it next and call you back in a couple
hours"...no call...ugh). Needless to say, I won't take my jeep there
anymore because of this crappy customer service. They don't seem to
understand that I don't want to be without my only, daily-driver,
vehicle for 4 days just to get the stupid exhaust manifold replaced
(which took them all of probably 2 hours, on the fourth day).
3) High Country 4x4 ... They seemed cool to me at first. Then I
realized they push Teraflex a little TOO much. It seems obvious
they're getting kickbacks. I mean, they were trying to tell a friend
of mine they'd "never heard of" anyone putting a Rubicon Express 4.5"
lift on a ...'03 Rubicon. Bull! So I don't always trust any advice I
get from them. They do do good work though and will let you schedule
appointments. And their sales folks are reasonably knowledgeable and
helpful. I had them weld on my new front lower control arm mounts when
I tore one off a while back. Labor normal to a bit high: $85/hr.
4) Wild West Off Road ... So far these guys are my favorites. I'm
having them do my gears (4.56) and lockers (ARBs) right now (they did
it all yesterday, in one day...I'm picking it up today). They let me
schedule an appointment and everything. They're also (so far) very
good about accuracy in estimates and time, and getting back to me via
phone, even late (they called me at 6:30 PM last night to tell me the
gears/lockers were done). Their labor rate is also nicer, at $75/hr.
They seem to be honest and fair, so far, and they're really nice. They
only charged me exactly 8.4 hrs work for my gears & lockers install.
They've given me a quick tour of their shop and taken me back to see
some stuff they were talking about on a rig back there without any
question. They're over in the same area as High Country, near Santa Fe
and Hampden Ave. Still on the south side of downtown Denver, but
closer in to town.
5) I have a friend who lives up in your preferred area; I asked if
she's got any shop recommendations up there. I know she liked the
people she had put in her York OBA system. I'll post here with
whatever she sends me.
Good luck. Welcome to the addiction ;-)
Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
(www.jeeperman.com) "Trail Skidz" (same as the "Rock Skidz", but with
a plate welded on top to provide a better step than the bar alone).
They're plenty strong to work as rocker protection (or jack point),
they don't mess up your clearance that much (and provide much more
clearance than most crappy sidesteps or any nerf bars you come
across). I like them because they don't require me to drill my frame
or body. Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 11:39 AM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
Here's my followup:
4) As Nathan said, Colorado4x4.org is a good place to get local
opinions. Here is what my friend from the Ft. Collins area said:
"I like The 4Wheeler at 6519 Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, (303) 443-8488)
or 4WD Xtreme at 31 Bowen in Longmont. The Longmont place is more of
a custom fab place but The 4Wheeler has tons of experience and is a
more well-rounded garage.
Austin (longboy on the Colorado4x4 board) would know of Ft.Collins
places I think."
Hope that helps.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
4) As Nathan said, Colorado4x4.org is a good place to get local
opinions. Here is what my friend from the Ft. Collins area said:
"I like The 4Wheeler at 6519 Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, (303) 443-8488)
or 4WD Xtreme at 31 Bowen in Longmont. The Longmont place is more of
a custom fab place but The 4Wheeler has tons of experience and is a
more well-rounded garage.
Austin (longboy on the Colorado4x4 board) would know of Ft.Collins
places I think."
Hope that helps.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 11:39 AM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
Here's my followup:
4) As Nathan said, Colorado4x4.org is a good place to get local
opinions. Here is what my friend from the Ft. Collins area said:
"I like The 4Wheeler at 6519 Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, (303) 443-8488)
or 4WD Xtreme at 31 Bowen in Longmont. The Longmont place is more of
a custom fab place but The 4Wheeler has tons of experience and is a
more well-rounded garage.
Austin (longboy on the Colorado4x4 board) would know of Ft.Collins
places I think."
Hope that helps.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
4) As Nathan said, Colorado4x4.org is a good place to get local
opinions. Here is what my friend from the Ft. Collins area said:
"I like The 4Wheeler at 6519 Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, (303) 443-8488)
or 4WD Xtreme at 31 Bowen in Longmont. The Longmont place is more of
a custom fab place but The 4Wheeler has tons of experience and is a
more well-rounded garage.
Austin (longboy on the Colorado4x4 board) would know of Ft.Collins
places I think."
Hope that helps.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 11:39 AM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
Here's my followup:
4) As Nathan said, Colorado4x4.org is a good place to get local
opinions. Here is what my friend from the Ft. Collins area said:
"I like The 4Wheeler at 6519 Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, (303) 443-8488)
or 4WD Xtreme at 31 Bowen in Longmont. The Longmont place is more of
a custom fab place but The 4Wheeler has tons of experience and is a
more well-rounded garage.
Austin (longboy on the Colorado4x4 board) would know of Ft.Collins
places I think."
Hope that helps.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
4) As Nathan said, Colorado4x4.org is a good place to get local
opinions. Here is what my friend from the Ft. Collins area said:
"I like The 4Wheeler at 6519 Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, (303) 443-8488)
or 4WD Xtreme at 31 Bowen in Longmont. The Longmont place is more of
a custom fab place but The 4Wheeler has tons of experience and is a
more well-rounded garage.
Austin (longboy on the Colorado4x4 board) would know of Ft.Collins
places I think."
Hope that helps.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 11:39 AM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
Here's my followup:
4) As Nathan said, Colorado4x4.org is a good place to get local
opinions. Here is what my friend from the Ft. Collins area said:
"I like The 4Wheeler at 6519 Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, (303) 443-8488)
or 4WD Xtreme at 31 Bowen in Longmont. The Longmont place is more of
a custom fab place but The 4Wheeler has tons of experience and is a
more well-rounded garage.
Austin (longboy on the Colorado4x4 board) would know of Ft.Collins
places I think."
Hope that helps.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
4) As Nathan said, Colorado4x4.org is a good place to get local
opinions. Here is what my friend from the Ft. Collins area said:
"I like The 4Wheeler at 6519 Arapahoe Ave in Boulder, (303) 443-8488)
or 4WD Xtreme at 31 Bowen in Longmont. The Longmont place is more of
a custom fab place but The 4Wheeler has tons of experience and is a
more well-rounded garage.
Austin (longboy on the Colorado4x4 board) would know of Ft.Collins
places I think."
Hope that helps.
/Bob
TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net (TJ Girl) wrote in message news:<50e66978.0404121621.67b8d124@posting.google. com>...
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 04:45 PM
#38
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Re: modifications question
magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote in message news:<47b769ae.0404130642.4caf9692@posting.google. com>...
> I'm listing them
> in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
> last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
Thanks for all the info on the shops in the area! Much appreciated.
> Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
> Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
Again, thanks. Recommendations are always welcome. I've also been
browsing the history of this group to read various opinions on various
brands.
TJ Girl
> I'm listing them
> in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
> last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
Thanks for all the info on the shops in the area! Much appreciated.
> Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
> Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
Again, thanks. Recommendations are always welcome. I've also been
browsing the history of this group to read various opinions on various
brands.
TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 04:45 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote in message news:<47b769ae.0404130642.4caf9692@posting.google. com>...
> I'm listing them
> in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
> last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
Thanks for all the info on the shops in the area! Much appreciated.
> Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
> Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
Again, thanks. Recommendations are always welcome. I've also been
browsing the history of this group to read various opinions on various
brands.
TJ Girl
> I'm listing them
> in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
> last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
Thanks for all the info on the shops in the area! Much appreciated.
> Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
> Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
Again, thanks. Recommendations are always welcome. I've also been
browsing the history of this group to read various opinions on various
brands.
TJ Girl
04-13-2004, 04:45 PM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: modifications question
magicclaw@mac.com (Bob) wrote in message news:<47b769ae.0404130642.4caf9692@posting.google. com>...
> I'm listing them
> in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
> last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
Thanks for all the info on the shops in the area! Much appreciated.
> Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
> Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
Again, thanks. Recommendations are always welcome. I've also been
browsing the history of this group to read various opinions on various
brands.
TJ Girl
> I'm listing them
> in order of my own progression from shop to shop, so therefore the
> last one listed is my current favorite shop to deal with.
Thanks for all the info on the shops in the area! Much appreciated.
> Oh, and WRT nerfs or the like. I have the "Jeeperman"
> Just in case you were looking for recommendations.
Again, thanks. Recommendations are always welcome. I've also been
browsing the history of this group to read various opinions on various
brands.
TJ Girl