modifications question
 

Hi all,
Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
such good info..

Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
"sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
(I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
:)
Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
Does this cause any problems?


Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
insurance requirements get in the way?


Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.

TJ Girl

Re: modifications question
 

TJ Girl did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?

Google for "Manguson-Moss Warranty Act".

In short, no. They would have to prove the modification caused
the damage. Say for example, you drill holes and don't apply protective
paint, the panel then rusts and you ask for replacement under warranty.
The dealer could then tell you to pack sand.

However if the engine blows they would have to prove that adding
that nerf bar caused the failure or they would be in violation of
federal law.

> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?

Dunno. I only travel out to C Springs from Oklahoma a few times a year.

--
DougW

Re: modifications question
 

TJ Girl did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?

Google for "Manguson-Moss Warranty Act".

In short, no. They would have to prove the modification caused
the damage. Say for example, you drill holes and don't apply protective
paint, the panel then rusts and you ask for replacement under warranty.
The dealer could then tell you to pack sand.

However if the engine blows they would have to prove that adding
that nerf bar caused the failure or they would be in violation of
federal law.

> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?

Dunno. I only travel out to C Springs from Oklahoma a few times a year.

--
DougW

Re: modifications question
 

TJ Girl did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?

Google for "Manguson-Moss Warranty Act".

In short, no. They would have to prove the modification caused
the damage. Say for example, you drill holes and don't apply protective
paint, the panel then rusts and you ask for replacement under warranty.
The dealer could then tell you to pack sand.

However if the engine blows they would have to prove that adding
that nerf bar caused the failure or they would be in violation of
federal law.

> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?

Dunno. I only travel out to C Springs from Oklahoma a few times a year.

--
DougW

Re: modifications question
 

TJ Girl did pass the time by typing:
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?

Google for "Manguson-Moss Warranty Act".

In short, no. They would have to prove the modification caused
the damage. Say for example, you drill holes and don't apply protective
paint, the panel then rusts and you ask for replacement under warranty.
The dealer could then tell you to pack sand.

However if the engine blows they would have to prove that adding
that nerf bar caused the failure or they would be in violation of
federal law.

> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?

Dunno. I only travel out to C Springs from Oklahoma a few times a year.

--
DougW

Re: modifications question
 

"TJ Girl" <TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net> wrote

> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)

Nerf bars wouldn't mess with your warranty, though I'd suggest real,
protective rock rails with a functional bar used as a step. If you start
wheelin seriously, there aren't many "nerf bars" that will hold up for long.
Off road lights are the same ... unless you have some electrical problem and
then they'd have to prove the lights caused the problem. With a lift you get
into a touchier area, though I can't see dealerships in CO having issues...
where as some dealerships in say, Illinois do. I wonder about skids
(transfer case specifically) and the effect it might have in a TC
warranty...

Best bet is check with your dealer. If they say they won't warranty
something, go somewhere else. There HAVE TO BE offroad/mod friendly
dealerships out there (I sure hope so, cause that's where I'm gonna be in a
week :) Which brings me to the next question:

> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?

If I were you, I'd go over to
http://www.colorado4x4.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi and ask there. I get
all my CO specific answers there. Great group, and I'm sure you could find
people willing to teach/help you with your mods.

Enjoi'
n.

Re: modifications question
 

"TJ Girl" <TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net> wrote

> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)

Nerf bars wouldn't mess with your warranty, though I'd suggest real,
protective rock rails with a functional bar used as a step. If you start
wheelin seriously, there aren't many "nerf bars" that will hold up for long.
Off road lights are the same ... unless you have some electrical problem and
then they'd have to prove the lights caused the problem. With a lift you get
into a touchier area, though I can't see dealerships in CO having issues...
where as some dealerships in say, Illinois do. I wonder about skids
(transfer case specifically) and the effect it might have in a TC
warranty...

Best bet is check with your dealer. If they say they won't warranty
something, go somewhere else. There HAVE TO BE offroad/mod friendly
dealerships out there (I sure hope so, cause that's where I'm gonna be in a
week :) Which brings me to the next question:

> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?

If I were you, I'd go over to
http://www.colorado4x4.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi and ask there. I get
all my CO specific answers there. Great group, and I'm sure you could find
people willing to teach/help you with your mods.

Enjoi'
n.

Re: modifications question
 

"TJ Girl" <TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net> wrote

> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)

Nerf bars wouldn't mess with your warranty, though I'd suggest real,
protective rock rails with a functional bar used as a step. If you start
wheelin seriously, there aren't many "nerf bars" that will hold up for long.
Off road lights are the same ... unless you have some electrical problem and
then they'd have to prove the lights caused the problem. With a lift you get
into a touchier area, though I can't see dealerships in CO having issues...
where as some dealerships in say, Illinois do. I wonder about skids
(transfer case specifically) and the effect it might have in a TC
warranty...

Best bet is check with your dealer. If they say they won't warranty
something, go somewhere else. There HAVE TO BE offroad/mod friendly
dealerships out there (I sure hope so, cause that's where I'm gonna be in a
week :) Which brings me to the next question:

> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?

If I were you, I'd go over to
http://www.colorado4x4.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi and ask there. I get
all my CO specific answers there. Great group, and I'm sure you could find
people willing to teach/help you with your mods.

Enjoi'
n.

Re: modifications question
 

"TJ Girl" <TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net> wrote

> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)

Nerf bars wouldn't mess with your warranty, though I'd suggest real,
protective rock rails with a functional bar used as a step. If you start
wheelin seriously, there aren't many "nerf bars" that will hold up for long.
Off road lights are the same ... unless you have some electrical problem and
then they'd have to prove the lights caused the problem. With a lift you get
into a touchier area, though I can't see dealerships in CO having issues...
where as some dealerships in say, Illinois do. I wonder about skids
(transfer case specifically) and the effect it might have in a TC
warranty...

Best bet is check with your dealer. If they say they won't warranty
something, go somewhere else. There HAVE TO BE offroad/mod friendly
dealerships out there (I sure hope so, cause that's where I'm gonna be in a
week :) Which brings me to the next question:

> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?

If I were you, I'd go over to
http://www.colorado4x4.org/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi and ask there. I get
all my CO specific answers there. Great group, and I'm sure you could find
people willing to teach/help you with your mods.

Enjoi'
n.

Re: modifications question
 

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TJ Girl wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Me again. I'm just so excited about my new jeep, and you all have
> such good info..
>
> Has anyone ever run into a problem with making aftermarket
> modifications (simple things) and their warranty? Such as them saying
> "sorry, you voided your warranty by adding ...."?
> I'm just looking at minor things to begin with - nerf bars initially
> (I'm short, sorry :). Then a little lift and bigger tires, various
> skid plates, off-road lights, a good winch.... the dreams go on and on
> :)
> Based on reading historical postings to this group, I am NOT looking
> to use Mopar parts, so they wouldn't be anything factory approved.
> Does this cause any problems?
>
> Secondary question, does anyone recommend a good 4x4 shop in the
> northern Colorado area? Longmont or Boulder preferred, Loveland or Ft
> Collins good, Denver and surrounding area acceptable. What would be
> REALLY wonderful is if there's a 4x4 shop that would teach and watch
> ME while I learn to do the stuff. Does anyone do this, or do their
> insurance requirements get in the way?
>
> Thanks again to all for putting up with another newbie jeeper.
>
> TJ Girl