Hi Bill,

It helps to be polite. I once got out of jail or even a citation for going
eighty, on a winding country road in the middle of the night, in a '64
Falcon (or maybe it was a Comet). I was extremely polite, and had a bag of
groceries with me, with ginger ale and Saltines, for my pregnant wife. The
whole car could have been considered "defective equipment", the way we
maintained things in the commune. I think it also helped, that he didn't
want to have to call a wrecker for the car, and drive thirty miles to the
nearest jail. Another advantage to living in the country.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4387AD6E.A7A0E778@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Sure I was guilty, I accelerated from zero to over a hundred in
> less than ten seconds, a few times when my accelerator petal stuck on
> the floor, but the cops didn't have to take me to jail! I was probably
> the safest car out there.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I think that if you were sent to jail for mismatched tires, that were
> > basically the same size and in good condition, you would have cause for
a
> > false arrest suit. Discretion has its limits. I'll bet you were guilty
of
> > the speed thing, just hired a lawyer and maybe a professional "expert
> > witness" to get you off.
> >
> > Earle

 

Hi Bill,

It helps to be polite. I once got out of jail or even a citation for going
eighty, on a winding country road in the middle of the night, in a '64
Falcon (or maybe it was a Comet). I was extremely polite, and had a bag of
groceries with me, with ginger ale and Saltines, for my pregnant wife. The
whole car could have been considered "defective equipment", the way we
maintained things in the commune. I think it also helped, that he didn't
want to have to call a wrecker for the car, and drive thirty miles to the
nearest jail. Another advantage to living in the country.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4387AD6E.A7A0E778@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Sure I was guilty, I accelerated from zero to over a hundred in
> less than ten seconds, a few times when my accelerator petal stuck on
> the floor, but the cops didn't have to take me to jail! I was probably
> the safest car out there.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I think that if you were sent to jail for mismatched tires, that were
> > basically the same size and in good condition, you would have cause for
a
> > false arrest suit. Discretion has its limits. I'll bet you were guilty
of
> > the speed thing, just hired a lawyer and maybe a professional "expert
> > witness" to get you off.
> >
> > Earle

 

Hi Bill,

It helps to be polite. I once got out of jail or even a citation for going
eighty, on a winding country road in the middle of the night, in a '64
Falcon (or maybe it was a Comet). I was extremely polite, and had a bag of
groceries with me, with ginger ale and Saltines, for my pregnant wife. The
whole car could have been considered "defective equipment", the way we
maintained things in the commune. I think it also helped, that he didn't
want to have to call a wrecker for the car, and drive thirty miles to the
nearest jail. Another advantage to living in the country.

Earle

"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4387AD6E.A7A0E778@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> Sure I was guilty, I accelerated from zero to over a hundred in
> less than ten seconds, a few times when my accelerator petal stuck on
> the floor, but the cops didn't have to take me to jail! I was probably
> the safest car out there.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I think that if you were sent to jail for mismatched tires, that were
> > basically the same size and in good condition, you would have cause for
a
> > false arrest suit. Discretion has its limits. I'll bet you were guilty
of
> > the speed thing, just hired a lawyer and maybe a professional "expert
> > witness" to get you off.
> >
> > Earle

 

I've always been polite.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> It helps to be polite. I once got out of jail or even a citation for going
> eighty, on a winding country road in the middle of the night, in a '64
> Falcon (or maybe it was a Comet). I was extremely polite, and had a bag of
> groceries with me, with ginger ale and Saltines, for my pregnant wife. The
> whole car could have been considered "defective equipment", the way we
> maintained things in the commune. I think it also helped, that he didn't
> want to have to call a wrecker for the car, and drive thirty miles to the
> nearest jail. Another advantage to living in the country.
>
> Earle

 

I've always been polite.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> It helps to be polite. I once got out of jail or even a citation for going
> eighty, on a winding country road in the middle of the night, in a '64
> Falcon (or maybe it was a Comet). I was extremely polite, and had a bag of
> groceries with me, with ginger ale and Saltines, for my pregnant wife. The
> whole car could have been considered "defective equipment", the way we
> maintained things in the commune. I think it also helped, that he didn't
> want to have to call a wrecker for the car, and drive thirty miles to the
> nearest jail. Another advantage to living in the country.
>
> Earle

 

I've always been polite.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> It helps to be polite. I once got out of jail or even a citation for going
> eighty, on a winding country road in the middle of the night, in a '64
> Falcon (or maybe it was a Comet). I was extremely polite, and had a bag of
> groceries with me, with ginger ale and Saltines, for my pregnant wife. The
> whole car could have been considered "defective equipment", the way we
> maintained things in the commune. I think it also helped, that he didn't
> want to have to call a wrecker for the car, and drive thirty miles to the
> nearest jail. Another advantage to living in the country.
>
> Earle

 

I think most of us would agree that since four, 5"square patches of rubber
are the only thing controlling your car and keeping it shiny-side up, tires
are the most important piece of equipment on your car. It is false economy
to mix & match tires if you routinely drive highway speeds, because when
your car needs to be perfect in an accident-avoidance situation, they CAN be
the difference between life & death.

As far as getting police involved, I would think many of the citations
written for mismatched tires are AFTER an accident has occurred. They are an
easy out - you don't need to blame the driver and it helps the insurance
companies determine fault. Who really knows how much the tires came into
play and if the best tires in the world would have avoided the accident?
Most accidents, in my opinion, are mostly driver error and mismatched tires
operating improperly under stress are only a contributing factor at best.
The driver generally has put himself in the dangerous situation, why should
the mismatched tires take all the blame?

Bottom line is, SUV's handle like crap over 50 mph. Always have - always
will. Mismatched tires certainly make a bad situation worse, but do not
create the bad situation.

--
Dana
Port Kent, NY

2002 Saturn LW300
93 Jeep YJ - I4 - 125k mi.
90 Jeep XJ Ltd. - I6 - 145k mi.
---------------
95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee 4dr
76 Cherokee 2dr

 

I think most of us would agree that since four, 5"square patches of rubber
are the only thing controlling your car and keeping it shiny-side up, tires
are the most important piece of equipment on your car. It is false economy
to mix & match tires if you routinely drive highway speeds, because when
your car needs to be perfect in an accident-avoidance situation, they CAN be
the difference between life & death.

As far as getting police involved, I would think many of the citations
written for mismatched tires are AFTER an accident has occurred. They are an
easy out - you don't need to blame the driver and it helps the insurance
companies determine fault. Who really knows how much the tires came into
play and if the best tires in the world would have avoided the accident?
Most accidents, in my opinion, are mostly driver error and mismatched tires
operating improperly under stress are only a contributing factor at best.
The driver generally has put himself in the dangerous situation, why should
the mismatched tires take all the blame?

Bottom line is, SUV's handle like crap over 50 mph. Always have - always
will. Mismatched tires certainly make a bad situation worse, but do not
create the bad situation.

--
Dana
Port Kent, NY

2002 Saturn LW300
93 Jeep YJ - I4 - 125k mi.
90 Jeep XJ Ltd. - I6 - 145k mi.
---------------
95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee 4dr
76 Cherokee 2dr

 

I think most of us would agree that since four, 5"square patches of rubber
are the only thing controlling your car and keeping it shiny-side up, tires
are the most important piece of equipment on your car. It is false economy
to mix & match tires if you routinely drive highway speeds, because when
your car needs to be perfect in an accident-avoidance situation, they CAN be
the difference between life & death.

As far as getting police involved, I would think many of the citations
written for mismatched tires are AFTER an accident has occurred. They are an
easy out - you don't need to blame the driver and it helps the insurance
companies determine fault. Who really knows how much the tires came into
play and if the best tires in the world would have avoided the accident?
Most accidents, in my opinion, are mostly driver error and mismatched tires
operating improperly under stress are only a contributing factor at best.
The driver generally has put himself in the dangerous situation, why should
the mismatched tires take all the blame?

Bottom line is, SUV's handle like crap over 50 mph. Always have - always
will. Mismatched tires certainly make a bad situation worse, but do not
create the bad situation.

--
Dana
Port Kent, NY

2002 Saturn LW300
93 Jeep YJ - I4 - 125k mi.
90 Jeep XJ Ltd. - I6 - 145k mi.
---------------
95 Grand Cherokee Ltd.
91 Grand Wagoneer Ltd.
82 Cherokee 4dr
76 Cherokee 2dr

 

Why so confusing?

If you go out and kill someone because you couldn't avoid them because
you were driving a vehicle with mis mactched tires or an 'unsafe'
vehicle, you go to jail.

Simple enough.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I think that if you were sent to jail for mismatched tires, that were
> basically the same size and in good condition, you would have cause for a
> false arrest suit. Discretion has its limits. I'll bet you were guilty of
> the speed thing, just hired a lawyer and maybe a professional "expert
> witness" to get you off.
>
> Earle
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:43877EF2.9CBA0678@***.net...
> > Yes, but that's after the fact. It's the officer's descretion
> > whether you go to jail. Be there done that many times, always found not
> > guilt of exhibition of speed, but still spent a day in jail until my
> > bail cleared.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Earle Horton wrote:
> > >
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:43876374.80788C09@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Spdloader wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Good lord if I believed everything I read, I'd be scared to death
> > > > > to drive after reading some of these replies.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's important to have a matched set of tires on your vehicle, but
> if
> > > > > you
> > > > > can't, match them per axle.
> > > > >
> > > > > NOTHING catastrophic is going to happen to you running a slightly
> > > > > different tire,
> > > >
> > > > They told me it made 'The' difference between me going to jail or
> > > > not.....
> > > >
> > > In the United States of America you would need a jury to put someone in
> jail
> > > for something like this. An overly enthusiastic assistant district
> attorney
> > > might threaten to prosecute, but it would be bluff, and he would be
> trying
> > > for a plea bargain, not justified by the facts. How many jury members
> would
> > > have mismatched tires, or have no idea what size tires were on their own
> > > cars? I think that "they" were just trying to impress you with how much
> > > power and authority they possessed. Even in a socialist state, this
> sounds
> > > like bullcrap.
> > >
> > > Earle