MileMarker PE8000
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
alternator is only 70A or so.
I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
use my hand throttle.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> BUT, for the sake of argument what would it take to generate the
> power required to max it out at ninety five hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> > pull.
> >
> > That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
> >
> > We were talking stalled in water here.
> >
> > So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> > weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> > the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
> >
> > This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
> >
> > I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> > the winch.
> >
> > I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> > using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> > later.
> >
> > Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> > 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> > need a 1' pop out.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
alternator is only 70A or so.
I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
use my hand throttle.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> BUT, for the sake of argument what would it take to generate the
> power required to max it out at ninety five hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> > pull.
> >
> > That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
> >
> > We were talking stalled in water here.
> >
> > So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> > weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> > the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
> >
> > This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
> >
> > I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> > the winch.
> >
> > I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> > using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> > later.
> >
> > Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> > 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> > need a 1' pop out.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#142
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
alternator is only 70A or so.
I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
use my hand throttle.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> BUT, for the sake of argument what would it take to generate the
> power required to max it out at ninety five hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> > pull.
> >
> > That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
> >
> > We were talking stalled in water here.
> >
> > So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> > weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> > the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
> >
> > This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
> >
> > I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> > the winch.
> >
> > I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> > using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> > later.
> >
> > Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> > 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> > need a 1' pop out.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
alternator is only 70A or so.
I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
use my hand throttle.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> BUT, for the sake of argument what would it take to generate the
> power required to max it out at ninety five hundred pounds.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> >
> > Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000 lb
> > pull.
> >
> > That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
> >
> > We were talking stalled in water here.
> >
> > So if I just have to pull it on wheels out of the water, the rolling
> > weight is closer to 200 lb or 300 lb, maybe 500 lb with some rocks in
> > the way. (I mean it only takes one or two people to push a Jeep right)
> >
> > This will draw more like 100 or less amps.
> >
> > I think my Optima battery could handle getting me out of the water using
> > the winch.
> >
> > I 'know' 100% for sure my Optima battery can get me out of the water
> > using my starter and 2nd gear to walk it and still start the Jeep a bit
> > later.
> >
> > Now if you need the 'full' 9500 lb pulling to get out which will draw
> > 450 amps, you are in deep do do with a stalled engine unless you only
> > need a 1' pop out.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
#143
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Hi Mike,
FYI Warn battery recommends a "battery with a minimum rating of 650
cold cranking amps is recommended to obtain peak performance from your
winch.": http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
> alternator is only 70A or so.
>
> I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
> axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
> battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
> idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
> use my hand throttle.
>
> Mike
FYI Warn battery recommends a "battery with a minimum rating of 650
cold cranking amps is recommended to obtain peak performance from your
winch.": http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
> alternator is only 70A or so.
>
> I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
> axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
> battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
> idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
> use my hand throttle.
>
> Mike
#144
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Hi Mike,
FYI Warn battery recommends a "battery with a minimum rating of 650
cold cranking amps is recommended to obtain peak performance from your
winch.": http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
> alternator is only 70A or so.
>
> I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
> axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
> battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
> idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
> use my hand throttle.
>
> Mike
FYI Warn battery recommends a "battery with a minimum rating of 650
cold cranking amps is recommended to obtain peak performance from your
winch.": http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
> alternator is only 70A or so.
>
> I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
> axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
> battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
> idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
> use my hand throttle.
>
> Mike
#145
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Hi Mike,
FYI Warn battery recommends a "battery with a minimum rating of 650
cold cranking amps is recommended to obtain peak performance from your
winch.": http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
> alternator is only 70A or so.
>
> I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
> axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
> battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
> idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
> use my hand throttle.
>
> Mike
FYI Warn battery recommends a "battery with a minimum rating of 650
cold cranking amps is recommended to obtain peak performance from your
winch.": http://www.jonfund.com/technical/tec.../winchtech.pdf
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Pretty much any battery will handle a 450 amp load for a short time. My
> alternator is only 70A or so.
>
> I have had my cables smoking once when it stalled pulling a wheel and
> axle less hulk out of the bush. That was a serious draw and the
> battery/alternator had to work hard for a while after. It pulled the
> idle down for a while because of the draw on the alternator. I had to
> use my hand throttle.
>
> Mike
#146
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> tell us all how long an electrical winch will last running off the
> battery in TYPICAL USEAGE before the battery is drained.
TRANSLATION --> "easy pulls". jery ive stated many times that electric
winches do fine most of the time. the benefits of going hydraulic
(and ive said this many times) become obvious when you need a winch the
most....on long nasty tough pulls. for most situations an electric
winch will serve you just fine, ive _never_ said otherwise. hell, in
_most_ situations a come-along will serve you just fine. while it also
handles easy pulls, the hydraulic winch is designed and built for true
heavy duty/industrial usage and this is where youll benefit from them
most.
> tell us all how long an electrical winch will last running off the
> battery in TYPICAL USEAGE before the battery is drained.
TRANSLATION --> "easy pulls". jery ive stated many times that electric
winches do fine most of the time. the benefits of going hydraulic
(and ive said this many times) become obvious when you need a winch the
most....on long nasty tough pulls. for most situations an electric
winch will serve you just fine, ive _never_ said otherwise. hell, in
_most_ situations a come-along will serve you just fine. while it also
handles easy pulls, the hydraulic winch is designed and built for true
heavy duty/industrial usage and this is where youll benefit from them
most.
#147
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> tell us all how long an electrical winch will last running off the
> battery in TYPICAL USEAGE before the battery is drained.
TRANSLATION --> "easy pulls". jery ive stated many times that electric
winches do fine most of the time. the benefits of going hydraulic
(and ive said this many times) become obvious when you need a winch the
most....on long nasty tough pulls. for most situations an electric
winch will serve you just fine, ive _never_ said otherwise. hell, in
_most_ situations a come-along will serve you just fine. while it also
handles easy pulls, the hydraulic winch is designed and built for true
heavy duty/industrial usage and this is where youll benefit from them
most.
> tell us all how long an electrical winch will last running off the
> battery in TYPICAL USEAGE before the battery is drained.
TRANSLATION --> "easy pulls". jery ive stated many times that electric
winches do fine most of the time. the benefits of going hydraulic
(and ive said this many times) become obvious when you need a winch the
most....on long nasty tough pulls. for most situations an electric
winch will serve you just fine, ive _never_ said otherwise. hell, in
_most_ situations a come-along will serve you just fine. while it also
handles easy pulls, the hydraulic winch is designed and built for true
heavy duty/industrial usage and this is where youll benefit from them
most.
#148
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> tell us all how long an electrical winch will last running off the
> battery in TYPICAL USEAGE before the battery is drained.
TRANSLATION --> "easy pulls". jery ive stated many times that electric
winches do fine most of the time. the benefits of going hydraulic
(and ive said this many times) become obvious when you need a winch the
most....on long nasty tough pulls. for most situations an electric
winch will serve you just fine, ive _never_ said otherwise. hell, in
_most_ situations a come-along will serve you just fine. while it also
handles easy pulls, the hydraulic winch is designed and built for true
heavy duty/industrial usage and this is where youll benefit from them
most.
> tell us all how long an electrical winch will last running off the
> battery in TYPICAL USEAGE before the battery is drained.
TRANSLATION --> "easy pulls". jery ive stated many times that electric
winches do fine most of the time. the benefits of going hydraulic
(and ive said this many times) become obvious when you need a winch the
most....on long nasty tough pulls. for most situations an electric
winch will serve you just fine, ive _never_ said otherwise. hell, in
_most_ situations a come-along will serve you just fine. while it also
handles easy pulls, the hydraulic winch is designed and built for true
heavy duty/industrial usage and this is where youll benefit from them
most.
#149
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Mike Romain wrote:
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000
lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
a 2000 pound pull wouldnt even come close to pulling a cj when its
buried to the rockers in mud. stuck bad enough, a 5000 pound pull
wouldnt do the job. i buried my sahara to the floorboards and my 9500
pound ramsey wouldnt budge it (the fault of the nutless stock battery,
not the winch). my brother hooked his v10 f250 to my sahara and
snapped a 10,000 pound clevis trying to pull me. we ended up wiring
his truck battery parallel with my jeep battery an winching it out with
a ****** block.
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000
lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
a 2000 pound pull wouldnt even come close to pulling a cj when its
buried to the rockers in mud. stuck bad enough, a 5000 pound pull
wouldnt do the job. i buried my sahara to the floorboards and my 9500
pound ramsey wouldnt budge it (the fault of the nutless stock battery,
not the winch). my brother hooked his v10 f250 to my sahara and
snapped a 10,000 pound clevis trying to pull me. we ended up wiring
his truck battery parallel with my jeep battery an winching it out with
a ****** block.
#150
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Re: MileMarker PE8000
Mike Romain wrote:
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000
lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
a 2000 pound pull wouldnt even come close to pulling a cj when its
buried to the rockers in mud. stuck bad enough, a 5000 pound pull
wouldnt do the job. i buried my sahara to the floorboards and my 9500
pound ramsey wouldnt budge it (the fault of the nutless stock battery,
not the winch). my brother hooked his v10 f250 to my sahara and
snapped a 10,000 pound clevis trying to pull me. we ended up wiring
his truck battery parallel with my jeep battery an winching it out with
a ****** block.
> Bill, for the new warn 9500 winch, the specs are 160 amps for a 2000
lb
> pull.
>
> That would be like pulling my CJ7 straight up a cliff.
a 2000 pound pull wouldnt even come close to pulling a cj when its
buried to the rockers in mud. stuck bad enough, a 5000 pound pull
wouldnt do the job. i buried my sahara to the floorboards and my 9500
pound ramsey wouldnt budge it (the fault of the nutless stock battery,
not the winch). my brother hooked his v10 f250 to my sahara and
snapped a 10,000 pound clevis trying to pull me. we ended up wiring
his truck battery parallel with my jeep battery an winching it out with
a ****** block.