This might not have been a good idea, but...
#301
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Isn't the slow-mo COOL... I wrecked my first Jeep (87 Wrangler... It's OK,
it was defective... had square headlights) at about 60MPH. Hit Ice and
started to slide/spin. things went VERY slow. I remember turning into it,
out of it, etc. Then I just let go of the wheel and releaxed (relaxed
bodies bounce, tense bodies break... probably why so many drunks walk away
from nasty accidents). Hit the left side jersey wall... spun across 2 lanes
and dmashed into the right hand jersey wall. All in slow-mo (or "bullet
time" as it's called in video games). Then got rear-ended while trying to
get out (climbing over stick shift). Walked away from it.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com...
> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
it was defective... had square headlights) at about 60MPH. Hit Ice and
started to slide/spin. things went VERY slow. I remember turning into it,
out of it, etc. Then I just let go of the wheel and releaxed (relaxed
bodies bounce, tense bodies break... probably why so many drunks walk away
from nasty accidents). Hit the left side jersey wall... spun across 2 lanes
and dmashed into the right hand jersey wall. All in slow-mo (or "bullet
time" as it's called in video games). Then got rear-ended while trying to
get out (climbing over stick shift). Walked away from it.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com...
> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
> that one. :-D
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
#302
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Thanks.
The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
the ones who hid them.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>Hi Jennifer,
>> Congratulations.
>> I'd ride with ya.
>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>
>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
the ones who hid them.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>Hi Jennifer,
>> Congratulations.
>> I'd ride with ya.
>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>
>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
#303
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Thanks.
The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
the ones who hid them.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>Hi Jennifer,
>> Congratulations.
>> I'd ride with ya.
>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>
>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
the ones who hid them.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>Hi Jennifer,
>> Congratulations.
>> I'd ride with ya.
>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>
>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
#304
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Thanks.
The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
the ones who hid them.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>Hi Jennifer,
>> Congratulations.
>> I'd ride with ya.
>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>
>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
the ones who hid them.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>Hi Jennifer,
>> Congratulations.
>> I'd ride with ya.
>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>mailto:--------------------
>>
>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>
>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
#305
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Whoops!
Just got the postings. At 12 minutes, we actually (time wise) beat all the Geek
class teams. First place in the basic came in at 10 minutes, we came in at 12
minutes. First in the Geek at 22 minutes. Thats the difference in times between
what we ran each leg in and what the official time to run each leg was. The optimal
time was 0 for each leg - neither longer nor shorter than the official time.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:56:51 -0800, jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>Thanks.
>>The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
>>(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
>>whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
>>2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
>>many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
>>lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
>>Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
>>class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
>>second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
>>eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
>>the ones who hid them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi Jennifer,
>>>> Congratulations.
>>>> I'd ride with ya.
>>>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:--------------------
>>>>
>>>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>>>
>>>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
Just got the postings. At 12 minutes, we actually (time wise) beat all the Geek
class teams. First place in the basic came in at 10 minutes, we came in at 12
minutes. First in the Geek at 22 minutes. Thats the difference in times between
what we ran each leg in and what the official time to run each leg was. The optimal
time was 0 for each leg - neither longer nor shorter than the official time.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:56:51 -0800, jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>Thanks.
>>The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
>>(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
>>whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
>>2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
>>many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
>>lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
>>Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
>>class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
>>second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
>>eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
>>the ones who hid them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi Jennifer,
>>>> Congratulations.
>>>> I'd ride with ya.
>>>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:--------------------
>>>>
>>>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>>>
>>>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
#306
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Whoops!
Just got the postings. At 12 minutes, we actually (time wise) beat all the Geek
class teams. First place in the basic came in at 10 minutes, we came in at 12
minutes. First in the Geek at 22 minutes. Thats the difference in times between
what we ran each leg in and what the official time to run each leg was. The optimal
time was 0 for each leg - neither longer nor shorter than the official time.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:56:51 -0800, jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>Thanks.
>>The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
>>(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
>>whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
>>2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
>>many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
>>lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
>>Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
>>class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
>>second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
>>eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
>>the ones who hid them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi Jennifer,
>>>> Congratulations.
>>>> I'd ride with ya.
>>>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:--------------------
>>>>
>>>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>>>
>>>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
Just got the postings. At 12 minutes, we actually (time wise) beat all the Geek
class teams. First place in the basic came in at 10 minutes, we came in at 12
minutes. First in the Geek at 22 minutes. Thats the difference in times between
what we ran each leg in and what the official time to run each leg was. The optimal
time was 0 for each leg - neither longer nor shorter than the official time.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:56:51 -0800, jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>Thanks.
>>The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
>>(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
>>whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
>>2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
>>many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
>>lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
>>Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
>>class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
>>second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
>>eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
>>the ones who hid them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi Jennifer,
>>>> Congratulations.
>>>> I'd ride with ya.
>>>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:--------------------
>>>>
>>>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>>>
>>>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Whoops!
Just got the postings. At 12 minutes, we actually (time wise) beat all the Geek
class teams. First place in the basic came in at 10 minutes, we came in at 12
minutes. First in the Geek at 22 minutes. Thats the difference in times between
what we ran each leg in and what the official time to run each leg was. The optimal
time was 0 for each leg - neither longer nor shorter than the official time.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:56:51 -0800, jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>Thanks.
>>The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
>>(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
>>whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
>>2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
>>many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
>>lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
>>Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
>>class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
>>second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
>>eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
>>the ones who hid them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi Jennifer,
>>>> Congratulations.
>>>> I'd ride with ya.
>>>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:--------------------
>>>>
>>>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>>>
>>>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
Just got the postings. At 12 minutes, we actually (time wise) beat all the Geek
class teams. First place in the basic came in at 10 minutes, we came in at 12
minutes. First in the Geek at 22 minutes. Thats the difference in times between
what we ran each leg in and what the official time to run each leg was. The optimal
time was 0 for each leg - neither longer nor shorter than the official time.
On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:56:51 -0800, jbjeep <jbjeep@saw.net> wrote:
>>Thanks.
>>The GPS Challenge was a whole lot of fun. I still dont know much about using a GPS
>>(it was in the lead rig, with the one person who knew what he was doing), but the
>>whole event was a blast. The only down side, (other than by missing first by a lousy
>>2 minutes) is the fact that I need a front end alignemnt ASAP now. I took one (or
>>many) of the bumps way to fast and knocked it out of whack. On the upside, it was
>>lots of fun, and timewise we beat both the second and third place winners for the
>>Geek class (all the electronics you can stuff in your rigs) too. We ran in the basic
>>class - GPS & stopwatch only. No maps, no computers, nothing. We did take a 30
>>second "Pumpkin Penalty" since we couldnt find one of ours - but some of them were
>>eaten, and the officials couldnt find some of the missing ones either...and they are
>>the ones who hid them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 19:46:56 -0800, L.W.(ßill) ------ III <----------@***.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>Hi Jennifer,
>>>> Congratulations.
>>>> I'd ride with ya.
>>>> A little reminder for the newbie, that you know what you're talking
>>>>about: http://www.----------.com/jenjeeproll.mpg
>>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:--------------------
>>>>
>>>>jbjeep wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry....been too busy to read for a few days. Our Annual GPS Challenge was on
>>>>> Saturday...and what a challenge it was!!! (We took 2nd in our class <g> Pretty good
>>>>> for 3 out of 4 people in the team never having done this before.)
>>>>>
>>>>> He is damn lucky not to have lost more than what was in his shorts! Good roll cages
>>>>> and the knowledge that you MUST keep all of you inside the vehicle (somehow) while
>>>>> its going over is very neccisiary. While I dont want to do that again, I am quite
>>>>> thankful that its been drilled into me to hang on and let it happen, and also I am
>>>>> thankful that I had no passenger with me at the time. In fact several times later in
>>>>> the day when I had one I kicked them out for some of the hills. I didnt want to take
>>>>> the risk of someone else being with me if I screwed up again.
#308
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Ick. Dont want to even think back on when I wrecked my YJ. Went into death grip on
that one also...while you are correct in what bounces and breaks...I didnt want to
bounce off the steering wheel at 50mph (no air bags in a 95) and it was pretty
obvious (for what felt like hours) what was going to happen...all in very slow-mo.
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:51:58 GMT, "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Isn't the slow-mo COOL... I wrecked my first Jeep (87 Wrangler... It's OK,
>>it was defective... had square headlights) at about 60MPH. Hit Ice and
>>started to slide/spin. things went VERY slow. I remember turning into it,
>>out of it, etc. Then I just let go of the wheel and releaxed (relaxed
>>bodies bounce, tense bodies break... probably why so many drunks walk away
>>from nasty accidents). Hit the left side jersey wall... spun across 2 lanes
>>and dmashed into the right hand jersey wall. All in slow-mo (or "bullet
>>time" as it's called in video games). Then got rear-ended while trying to
>>get out (climbing over stick shift). Walked away from it.
>>
>>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com. ..
>>> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
>>> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
>>> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
>>> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
>>> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
>>> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
>>> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
>>> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
>>> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
>>> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
>>> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
>>> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
>>> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
>>> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
>>> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
>>> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
>>> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
>>> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
>>> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
>>> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
>>> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
>>> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
>>> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
>>> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
>>> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
>>> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
>>> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
>>> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
>>> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
>>> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
>>> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
>>> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
>>> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
>>> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
>>> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
>>> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
>>> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
>>> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
>>> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
>>> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
>>> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
>>> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
>>> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
>>> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
>>> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
>>> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
>>> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
>>> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
>>> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
>>> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
>>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>>> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
>>> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
>>> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
>>> that one. :-D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Travis
>>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>>> :wq!
>>
that one also...while you are correct in what bounces and breaks...I didnt want to
bounce off the steering wheel at 50mph (no air bags in a 95) and it was pretty
obvious (for what felt like hours) what was going to happen...all in very slow-mo.
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:51:58 GMT, "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Isn't the slow-mo COOL... I wrecked my first Jeep (87 Wrangler... It's OK,
>>it was defective... had square headlights) at about 60MPH. Hit Ice and
>>started to slide/spin. things went VERY slow. I remember turning into it,
>>out of it, etc. Then I just let go of the wheel and releaxed (relaxed
>>bodies bounce, tense bodies break... probably why so many drunks walk away
>>from nasty accidents). Hit the left side jersey wall... spun across 2 lanes
>>and dmashed into the right hand jersey wall. All in slow-mo (or "bullet
>>time" as it's called in video games). Then got rear-ended while trying to
>>get out (climbing over stick shift). Walked away from it.
>>
>>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com. ..
>>> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
>>> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
>>> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
>>> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
>>> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
>>> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
>>> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
>>> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
>>> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
>>> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
>>> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
>>> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
>>> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
>>> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
>>> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
>>> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
>>> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
>>> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
>>> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
>>> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
>>> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
>>> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
>>> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
>>> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
>>> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
>>> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
>>> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
>>> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
>>> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
>>> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
>>> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
>>> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
>>> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
>>> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
>>> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
>>> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
>>> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
>>> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
>>> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
>>> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
>>> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
>>> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
>>> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
>>> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
>>> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
>>> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
>>> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
>>> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
>>> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
>>> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
>>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>>> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
>>> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
>>> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
>>> that one. :-D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Travis
>>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>>> :wq!
>>
#309
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Posts: n/a
Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Ick. Dont want to even think back on when I wrecked my YJ. Went into death grip on
that one also...while you are correct in what bounces and breaks...I didnt want to
bounce off the steering wheel at 50mph (no air bags in a 95) and it was pretty
obvious (for what felt like hours) what was going to happen...all in very slow-mo.
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:51:58 GMT, "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Isn't the slow-mo COOL... I wrecked my first Jeep (87 Wrangler... It's OK,
>>it was defective... had square headlights) at about 60MPH. Hit Ice and
>>started to slide/spin. things went VERY slow. I remember turning into it,
>>out of it, etc. Then I just let go of the wheel and releaxed (relaxed
>>bodies bounce, tense bodies break... probably why so many drunks walk away
>>from nasty accidents). Hit the left side jersey wall... spun across 2 lanes
>>and dmashed into the right hand jersey wall. All in slow-mo (or "bullet
>>time" as it's called in video games). Then got rear-ended while trying to
>>get out (climbing over stick shift). Walked away from it.
>>
>>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com. ..
>>> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
>>> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
>>> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
>>> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
>>> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
>>> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
>>> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
>>> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
>>> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
>>> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
>>> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
>>> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
>>> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
>>> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
>>> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
>>> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
>>> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
>>> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
>>> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
>>> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
>>> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
>>> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
>>> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
>>> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
>>> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
>>> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
>>> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
>>> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
>>> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
>>> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
>>> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
>>> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
>>> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
>>> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
>>> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
>>> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
>>> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
>>> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
>>> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
>>> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
>>> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
>>> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
>>> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
>>> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
>>> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
>>> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
>>> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
>>> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
>>> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
>>> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
>>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>>> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
>>> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
>>> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
>>> that one. :-D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Travis
>>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>>> :wq!
>>
that one also...while you are correct in what bounces and breaks...I didnt want to
bounce off the steering wheel at 50mph (no air bags in a 95) and it was pretty
obvious (for what felt like hours) what was going to happen...all in very slow-mo.
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:51:58 GMT, "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Isn't the slow-mo COOL... I wrecked my first Jeep (87 Wrangler... It's OK,
>>it was defective... had square headlights) at about 60MPH. Hit Ice and
>>started to slide/spin. things went VERY slow. I remember turning into it,
>>out of it, etc. Then I just let go of the wheel and releaxed (relaxed
>>bodies bounce, tense bodies break... probably why so many drunks walk away
>>from nasty accidents). Hit the left side jersey wall... spun across 2 lanes
>>and dmashed into the right hand jersey wall. All in slow-mo (or "bullet
>>time" as it's called in video games). Then got rear-ended while trying to
>>get out (climbing over stick shift). Walked away from it.
>>
>>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com. ..
>>> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
>>> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
>>> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
>>> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
>>> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
>>> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
>>> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
>>> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
>>> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
>>> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
>>> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
>>> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
>>> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
>>> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
>>> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
>>> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
>>> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
>>> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
>>> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
>>> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
>>> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
>>> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
>>> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
>>> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
>>> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
>>> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
>>> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
>>> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
>>> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
>>> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
>>> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
>>> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
>>> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
>>> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
>>> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
>>> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
>>> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
>>> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
>>> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
>>> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
>>> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
>>> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
>>> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
>>> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
>>> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
>>> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
>>> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
>>> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
>>> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
>>> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
>>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>>> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
>>> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
>>> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
>>> that one. :-D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Travis
>>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>>> :wq!
>>
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Re: This might not have been a good idea, but...
Ick. Dont want to even think back on when I wrecked my YJ. Went into death grip on
that one also...while you are correct in what bounces and breaks...I didnt want to
bounce off the steering wheel at 50mph (no air bags in a 95) and it was pretty
obvious (for what felt like hours) what was going to happen...all in very slow-mo.
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:51:58 GMT, "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Isn't the slow-mo COOL... I wrecked my first Jeep (87 Wrangler... It's OK,
>>it was defective... had square headlights) at about 60MPH. Hit Ice and
>>started to slide/spin. things went VERY slow. I remember turning into it,
>>out of it, etc. Then I just let go of the wheel and releaxed (relaxed
>>bodies bounce, tense bodies break... probably why so many drunks walk away
>>from nasty accidents). Hit the left side jersey wall... spun across 2 lanes
>>and dmashed into the right hand jersey wall. All in slow-mo (or "bullet
>>time" as it's called in video games). Then got rear-ended while trying to
>>get out (climbing over stick shift). Walked away from it.
>>
>>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com. ..
>>> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
>>> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
>>> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
>>> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
>>> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
>>> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
>>> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
>>> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
>>> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
>>> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
>>> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
>>> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
>>> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
>>> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
>>> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
>>> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
>>> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
>>> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
>>> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
>>> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
>>> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
>>> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
>>> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
>>> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
>>> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
>>> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
>>> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
>>> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
>>> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
>>> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
>>> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
>>> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
>>> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
>>> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
>>> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
>>> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
>>> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
>>> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
>>> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
>>> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
>>> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
>>> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
>>> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
>>> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
>>> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
>>> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
>>> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
>>> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
>>> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
>>> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
>>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>>> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
>>> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
>>> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
>>> that one. :-D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Travis
>>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>>> :wq!
>>
that one also...while you are correct in what bounces and breaks...I didnt want to
bounce off the steering wheel at 50mph (no air bags in a 95) and it was pretty
obvious (for what felt like hours) what was going to happen...all in very slow-mo.
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:51:58 GMT, "Joe" <jo_ratner@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Isn't the slow-mo COOL... I wrecked my first Jeep (87 Wrangler... It's OK,
>>it was defective... had square headlights) at about 60MPH. Hit Ice and
>>started to slide/spin. things went VERY slow. I remember turning into it,
>>out of it, etc. Then I just let go of the wheel and releaxed (relaxed
>>bodies bounce, tense bodies break... probably why so many drunks walk away
>>from nasty accidents). Hit the left side jersey wall... spun across 2 lanes
>>and dmashed into the right hand jersey wall. All in slow-mo (or "bullet
>>time" as it's called in video games). Then got rear-ended while trying to
>>get out (climbing over stick shift). Walked away from it.
>>
>>"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:b0a8qv4jiu64quafimpuk5f2239n9ektvt@4ax.com. ..
>>> ...I did it anyway and it kept my CJ5 from rolling over today. I was
>>> climbing a hill while my friend watched from below in the safety of
>>> his CJ8... I made it about 80% of the way to the top when things
>>> started to go wrong. I wound up getting partially sideways when the
>>> Jeep began to tilt... BADLY. It was leaning WAAAY over to the
>>> left...the driver's side. My side. I felt it begin to totter...
>>> Seemed like time was almost standing still. I looked down and saw
>>> David staring back up with an "OH SH*T" look on his face. I saw the
>>> ground rising up to meet me and realized that this was it. It was
>>> going over and I was up high enough that if it went over, it would
>>> roll several times before reaching the bottom of the hill. I had my
>>> seatbelt on (just a lap belt) and started to lean forward some and
>>> grab the steering wheel as hard as I could to keep from getting
>>> slammed around when it rolled. This was all happening so slowly. I
>>> looked to the left again and the ground was getting closer and closer
>>> to me. I was passed the teeter-totter point... closer and closer the
>>> ground came to me when I realized that if I stuck my left leg outside
>>> of the Jeep (this was the part I said was probably not a good idea...)
>>> that I could actually put my foot on the ground... Now from the time
>>> I started to slide sideways up until this point had taken about one
>>> second probably. I was going over fast. I jammed my left leg out and
>>> my ultra-cool Chuck Taylors grabbed for traction in the muddy hill!!!
>>> And caught traction, too! I quickly stuck my right leg outside, too!
>>> UUUUUUUUUGGGGHHHH..... the Jeep continued its sideways listing, as
>>> both of my Chuck Taylors continued to dig deeper...I felt resistance
>>> on my waist as the weight of the Jeep was now starting to transfer to
>>> the seatbelt...my legs bent....bent more....trembled...and then began
>>> to straighten! SWEET!!! I was doing it! I got the Jeep back to the
>>> teeter-totter point, but it would go no further. The front passenger
>>> tire was WAAY up in the air and the back passenger tire was kinda up
>>> on a wall on the side of the hill. It was that back tire being up
>>> there that brought me to the teeter-totter point. My friend David ran
>>> up and got on top of the front bumper on the passenger side to help
>>> keep it upright. I snapped a picture (that I'll post later) and then
>>> ran around to hold my precious CJ by the front bumper to keep it from
>>> crashing to the bottom of the hill below. David ran back to his CJ8
>>> and repositioned it so that it was at an angle to mine and quickly
>>> hooked his winch up to my left rear bumper. The idea was to pull my
>>> Jeep sideways in the back to get that back passenger side tire off of
>>> the wall so that it would right the Jeep. His Warn 9000 began
>>> furiously winding in...until the line was taut...then he slowly bumped
>>> the winch with the remote just a hair at a time...My Jeep did exactly
>>> what we were hoping it would...the rear passenger tire started to
>>> slide down off of the wall thingie...just to the right point...then I
>>> let go of the bumper and jumped into the driver's seat! I'd put the
>>> parking brake on and left it in first gear during the winch pull
>>> because I was afraid he'd get the Jeep righted and then it'd roll
>>> backwards down the hill. I put it in reverse and let off the parking
>>> brake...hit the starter and it fired up and putted back down the hill
>>> in reverse. In perfect control. WOOT WOOT!!!!! Disaster averted!!!
>>> Time to put a *REAL* roll bar on my shopping list along with some
>>> upgraded seatbelts. I got about 10 pictures of this outing, mostly of
>>> my friend's CJ8. I'll post them to my website soon and send out a
>>> pointer. WHEW! I'm ready to sit down and have an ice cold beer after
>>> that one. :-D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Travis
>>> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
>>> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
>>> :wq!
>>