billy ray

The same fix (slap) worked for Ford electronic dashboards in the late 80s..


"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Kate,
> I believe the circuit board connection was only found to be bad
> during the first couple of TJ years, and was quickly fixed with a slap.
> That problem lit the airbag light:
> http://www.----------.com/mirror/gauges.htm
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Kate wrote:
>>
>> Hey Mike and Nick,
>>
>> Do you guys suppose this is something that has been addressed in the
>> newer
>> models?
>>
>> I read so much in this group about bad wiring in the Jeeps that it makes
>> me
>> think I should be looking for things all along or even now to be sure
>> they
>> stay tight.
>>
>> Kate
>> 06 Rubee-Kahn

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Hi Bill,
That slap was delivered by the knee, as the ignition switch falling
apart was just under the column plastic cover at dash level. Yup
replaced their switches many times on an '84 and '89 Thunderbirds.
Ford's problem is still there as my Daughter's '04 van shut off while
driving down the freeway.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> The same fix (slap) worked for Ford electronic dashboards in the late 80s..

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Hi Bill,
That slap was delivered by the knee, as the ignition switch falling
apart was just under the column plastic cover at dash level. Yup
replaced their switches many times on an '84 and '89 Thunderbirds.
Ford's problem is still there as my Daughter's '04 van shut off while
driving down the freeway.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> The same fix (slap) worked for Ford electronic dashboards in the late 80s..

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Hi Bill,
That slap was delivered by the knee, as the ignition switch falling
apart was just under the column plastic cover at dash level. Yup
replaced their switches many times on an '84 and '89 Thunderbirds.
Ford's problem is still there as my Daughter's '04 van shut off while
driving down the freeway.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> The same fix (slap) worked for Ford electronic dashboards in the late 80s..

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Hi Bill,
That slap was delivered by the knee, as the ignition switch falling
apart was just under the column plastic cover at dash level. Yup
replaced their switches many times on an '84 and '89 Thunderbirds.
Ford's problem is still there as my Daughter's '04 van shut off while
driving down the freeway.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

billy ray wrote:
>
> The same fix (slap) worked for Ford electronic dashboards in the late 80s..

Nick Hughes

Nick ------ wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Recall 99V117000: Instrument Panel Ground Screws Loose
> >
> > The left side and right side instrument panel wiring ground attachment
> > screws could loosen over time. If the left side screw loosens, the
> > instrument panel gauges may not function when the headlamps are turned
> > on. If the right side screw loosens, the defroster blower motor may
> > not function.
> >
> > Dealers will remove the ground screws, drill a new pilot hole adjacent
> > to the original hole, and the screws will be reinstalled in the new
> > holes.
> >
>
> I think they tried to fix this in the year 2000 model. G200 and G201
> which handle both the above circuits, are both attached left of the
> instrument panel and under the speaker. Looks like they moved them.
>

I checked the grounds G200, G201, G202, G203, G300, G301, and G302.
All screws were tight. G300/302 and G202/203 mount directly to the
painted body. They do not mount to the unpainted steel dash support.

These two ground points were a little rusty, but not much. I'm going
to use penetrating spray to remove some rust, a wire brush to scrape
some paint and re-attach. I still don't think this is what is
contributing to the melting connections however.

Nick



> Thanks

Nick Hughes

Nick ------ wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Recall 99V117000: Instrument Panel Ground Screws Loose
> >
> > The left side and right side instrument panel wiring ground attachment
> > screws could loosen over time. If the left side screw loosens, the
> > instrument panel gauges may not function when the headlamps are turned
> > on. If the right side screw loosens, the defroster blower motor may
> > not function.
> >
> > Dealers will remove the ground screws, drill a new pilot hole adjacent
> > to the original hole, and the screws will be reinstalled in the new
> > holes.
> >
>
> I think they tried to fix this in the year 2000 model. G200 and G201
> which handle both the above circuits, are both attached left of the
> instrument panel and under the speaker. Looks like they moved them.
>

I checked the grounds G200, G201, G202, G203, G300, G301, and G302.
All screws were tight. G300/302 and G202/203 mount directly to the
painted body. They do not mount to the unpainted steel dash support.

These two ground points were a little rusty, but not much. I'm going
to use penetrating spray to remove some rust, a wire brush to scrape
some paint and re-attach. I still don't think this is what is
contributing to the melting connections however.

Nick



> Thanks

Nick Hughes

Nick ------ wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Recall 99V117000: Instrument Panel Ground Screws Loose
> >
> > The left side and right side instrument panel wiring ground attachment
> > screws could loosen over time. If the left side screw loosens, the
> > instrument panel gauges may not function when the headlamps are turned
> > on. If the right side screw loosens, the defroster blower motor may
> > not function.
> >
> > Dealers will remove the ground screws, drill a new pilot hole adjacent
> > to the original hole, and the screws will be reinstalled in the new
> > holes.
> >
>
> I think they tried to fix this in the year 2000 model. G200 and G201
> which handle both the above circuits, are both attached left of the
> instrument panel and under the speaker. Looks like they moved them.
>

I checked the grounds G200, G201, G202, G203, G300, G301, and G302.
All screws were tight. G300/302 and G202/203 mount directly to the
painted body. They do not mount to the unpainted steel dash support.

These two ground points were a little rusty, but not much. I'm going
to use penetrating spray to remove some rust, a wire brush to scrape
some paint and re-attach. I still don't think this is what is
contributing to the melting connections however.

Nick



> Thanks

Nick Hughes

Nick ------ wrote:
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > Recall 99V117000: Instrument Panel Ground Screws Loose
> >
> > The left side and right side instrument panel wiring ground attachment
> > screws could loosen over time. If the left side screw loosens, the
> > instrument panel gauges may not function when the headlamps are turned
> > on. If the right side screw loosens, the defroster blower motor may
> > not function.
> >
> > Dealers will remove the ground screws, drill a new pilot hole adjacent
> > to the original hole, and the screws will be reinstalled in the new
> > holes.
> >
>
> I think they tried to fix this in the year 2000 model. G200 and G201
> which handle both the above circuits, are both attached left of the
> instrument panel and under the speaker. Looks like they moved them.
>

I checked the grounds G200, G201, G202, G203, G300, G301, and G302.
All screws were tight. G300/302 and G202/203 mount directly to the
painted body. They do not mount to the unpainted steel dash support.

These two ground points were a little rusty, but not much. I'm going
to use penetrating spray to remove some rust, a wire brush to scrape
some paint and re-attach. I still don't think this is what is
contributing to the melting connections however.

Nick



> Thanks

Nick Hughes

Mike Romain wrote:
> Because I take my Jeeps out to play and they do run into or across
> puddles and creeks and rivers and swamps (Have had the Cherokee buried
> up to the lights both front and back in a 'puddle' with muck coming
> through the door speakers, let alone the CJ7), I opened 'every'
> connection I could get my mitts on and stuffed them all full of
> dielectric grease. This keeps the biggest failure cause, corrosion, at
> bay.
>

I think most of the problems started when I flipped the front
windshield down. The front foot well leaks have been a nightmare ever
since. The dealership (Brigham Gill in Natick, MA) couldn't even fix
the problem and then, well, my warranty expired. Leaks are still
there, probably contributing to wire corrosion.

Where did you purchase the dielectric grease? Radio Shack?