Making a dollar as a mechanic
02-28-2004, 01:17 AM
#11
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Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
That's still not enough, and we weren't talking about a tool and
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
02-28-2004, 01:17 AM
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Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
That's still not enough, and we weren't talking about a tool and
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
02-28-2004, 01:17 AM
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Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
That's still not enough, and we weren't talking about a tool and
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
die maker. You know a Teamster's driver drives a cement truck for twenty
five bucks an hour, right?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
02-28-2004, 04:02 AM
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Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
02-28-2004, 04:02 AM
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Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
02-28-2004, 04:02 AM
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Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
California. Where are you?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers, usually.
> The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but certainly
> is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty match
> on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
>
> Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will be
> employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that at
> a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law is an
> electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the last
> time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very well.
>
> No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market is
> driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek out
> cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any interest
> in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue collar
> workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> wages are catching up to us.
>
> Jerry
02-28-2004, 07:50 AM
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Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.
Jerry
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@***.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.
Jerry
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@***.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry
02-28-2004, 07:50 AM
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Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.
Jerry
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@***.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.
Jerry
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@***.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry
02-28-2004, 07:50 AM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
I currently reside in New England, but spent 35 years in the Arizona desert
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.
Jerry
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@***.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry
first. I hear what you say about the guy that rebuilds heads all day. But
he can't really demand any money, because the engine overhaul business is
extremely competitive (Neco, Jasper, etc). The exception is the hotrod
market. I interviewed for a position at Arizona Speed and Marine. They are
paying pretty good for techs that will just swap engines and other major
components. They machine all of their stuff in-house, and charge handily
for it. I would imagine that those machinists are making some bread.
When you said machinist, I assumed you meant the guy that makes things, not
the engine rebuilder.
Jerry
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40405922.553A6ED7@***.net...
> Jerry, you said: "machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore)"
> The machinist is what I call the little guy, usually independent that
> subs the back room and does the hot tank, boring, and valves, to
> complete rebuild for that auto parts store's front counter here in
> California. Where are you?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry Newton wrote:
> >
> > I think, Bill, that you aren't really in touch with the trades. The
> > machinist (if there really is such a thing anymore) is getting paid very
> > well these days. The real ones, that can actually make something from
> > nothing, are pulling down $30-40 per hour, as tool and die makers,
usually.
> > The button-pushing variety of machinist isn't doing as well, but
certainly
> > is no slouch. Mid-20's per hour is common. Not to mention the various
> > benefits that accompany working in a factory environment, like a hefty
match
> > on the 401k, real medical coverage, etc....
> >
> > Further, it is my opinion that anyone that pursues a trade career will
be
> > employed for life, and probably very well paid. My daddy taught me that
at
> > a young age (he was, and is, a machinist), and I took it to heart in the
> > automotive trade. I have done very well with that. My brother in law
is an
> > electrician, and he does very well (high 20's per hour). When is the
last
> > time you had to hire a plumber or carpenter? They are also doing very
well.
> >
> > No, the trades are alive and well in this country, and the free market
is
> > driving wages through the roof, as high school and college grads seek
out
> > cleaner and yuppier jobs in the IT industry. Kids don't have any
interest
> > in getting their hands dirty for a living anymore, and it's too bad in a
> > way, but it has done very good things for the wages of us peon blue
collar
> > workers. The blue collar guys make the world go round, and finally the
> > wages are catching up to us.
> >
> > Jerry
02-28-2004, 10:16 AM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Making a dollar as a mechanic
it's k0ol the way we get paid. i turn 80 hrs get paid for 80 hrs and i'm there
only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
suburban area in michigan
Jerry McG wrote:
> Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> you in the door.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> get"
> > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > mechanic we were talking about.
> >
> > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> He
> > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> >
> > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> on
> > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> >
> > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > larger dollar for your work.
> >
> > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> paid
> > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> customer
> > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
only for 45 actual clock hours. 70k is the norm for a 3 year dealer tech in a
suburban area in michigan
Jerry McG wrote:
> Good technicians can make over 100k a year depending upon skill level and
> product specialty. High line techs, those working on Lexus, BMW, MB, Jaguar,
> Porsche, etc. make GREAT money and in general the dealerships are better
> places to work than the GM, Ford & DC stores. Regardless, although hard
> work, being an automotive tech can be quite financially rewarding. It helps
> to have a 2-3 year automotive technology degree, ASE master certification
> and other credentials. As in any other field, the education really helps get
> you in the door.
>
> "William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
> news:c1ojpb$1ktcfn$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > A while back I started a thread with the title "What does the mechanic
> get"
> > which I was trying to dermine the salary of a mechanic. All in all, the
> > responses seemed pretty bleak although I didn't specify what type of
> > mechanic we were talking about.
> >
> > Yesterday I went to the performance shop where they do Dyno testing and
> > engine "Blue printing". As I was discussing my intake manifold problem I
> > asked the guy out of curiosity, how much he would charge for a rebuild.
> He
> > prefaced the return answer with "Now, we are a perfomance shop" and then
> > told me a rebuild by him would cost somewhere around 5k.
> >
> > Later on that night I was watching the news and they had a little segment
> on
> > Jessie James (Monster Garage) who just sold a bike he build for 250k.
> >
> > So I guess there is $$$ to be made but not as much for the every day
> > mechanic? So if you can fab and "blue print" an engine you can request a
> > larger dollar for your work.
> >
> > BTW, the guy told me he had a customer come from another shop where he
> paid
> > upwards of 800.00 to grind a crank and it still wasn't right. The
> customer
> > paid this guy 90.00 and it worked perfectly. His story of course.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >