LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
<calcerise@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
>
I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
happens after that. ;)
Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
<calcerise@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
<snip>
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
>
I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
happens after that. ;)
Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
<calcerise@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
<snip>
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
>
I have realized this long ago, but sometimes I forget. We all know what
happens after that. ;)
Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
I need to correct myself here:
<snip>
Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
over
> 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
To quote this site:
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
contested at Santa Pod.
In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
Chris
<snip>
Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
over
> 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
To quote this site:
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
contested at Santa Pod.
In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
I need to correct myself here:
<snip>
Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
over
> 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
To quote this site:
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
contested at Santa Pod.
In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
Chris
<snip>
Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
over
> 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
To quote this site:
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
contested at Santa Pod.
In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
I need to correct myself here:
<snip>
Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
over
> 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
To quote this site:
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
contested at Santa Pod.
In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
Chris
<snip>
Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
over
> 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
To quote this site:
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
contested at Santa Pod.
In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
I need to correct myself here:
<snip>
Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
over
> 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
To quote this site:
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
contested at Santa Pod.
In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
Chris
<snip>
Anyway, my point here is that the rocket cars
> had got so fast, and I believe I remember hearing about a run that was
over
> 400MPH and in the very low 4 second range, but that I am not sure of.
To quote this site:
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/sammy_miller_tribute/
Sammy's career was one of superlatives. He raced Funny Cars of the Fuel
variety before switching to rockets in 1976. His Spirit of '76 was the first
Rocket Funny Car and it very quickly smashed track records across the USA.
Sammy's next rocket FC was the first Vanishing Point, a Vega-bodied car in
which he recorded the first ever three-second pass in Florida in 1979, and
in which he first broke the 300 mph barrier in Europe, at Santa Pod in July
of the same year. A number of Vanishing Point FCs, the Oxygen Rocket
Dragster, and a Jet Dragster followed, all of which still hold ET and speed
records. He also set a world ice speed record when he put skis on the Oxygen
dragster and recorded 247 mph at Lake George. Sammy also arranged the first
ever rocket races, which were against Al Eierdam and which were also
contested at Santa Pod.
In 1984 Sammy recorded a pass of 3.58 at Santa Pod Raceway which still
stands as the absolute ET record anywhere on the planet.
Chris
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Whatever, just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top
fuel car in the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Bill can be incredibly difficult to communicate with when you are
> saying something that does not agree with what he thinks and he will
> drive you nuts if you do not really, really know your stuff. I concede
> that in general he knows more about the details of drag racing than I
> do, because I have little interest in drag racing, it's just not my
> sport. I'm sure it's a fine sport just like curling, jai alai, or
> whatever. I just don't really care about those sports, or spectator
> sports in general.
>
> What I have figured out is that the current TF or Funny Cars are now
> faster than the jets, but the jets had them beat until relatively
> recent times, and that all the trhust based cars-jets and rockets-are
> slower off the line and build their speed down the track. But that's
> apples vs. oranges because you are comparing a bizarre specialized
> propulsion system unique to fuel drag racing to a surplus engine sold
> for scrap price that is 50+ years old. Any jet engine made by
> Westinghouse is every bit of fifty years old, they quit making jet
> engines after the Korean War. Now if the Navy released Ottofuel II
> torpedo engines surplus and they started appearing drag cars maybe the
> solid block Hemis would be obsoleted overnight! In principle jet or
> rocket cars could beat even the current wheel driven cars with enough
> thrust to weight ratios, but not in 50 feet. Turboshaft engine
> dragsters, like the one Don Garlits built for exhibition, which use
> wheel driven power might be another matter too. Like the jets they are
> also apparently outside the rules.
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
fuel car in the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Bill can be incredibly difficult to communicate with when you are
> saying something that does not agree with what he thinks and he will
> drive you nuts if you do not really, really know your stuff. I concede
> that in general he knows more about the details of drag racing than I
> do, because I have little interest in drag racing, it's just not my
> sport. I'm sure it's a fine sport just like curling, jai alai, or
> whatever. I just don't really care about those sports, or spectator
> sports in general.
>
> What I have figured out is that the current TF or Funny Cars are now
> faster than the jets, but the jets had them beat until relatively
> recent times, and that all the trhust based cars-jets and rockets-are
> slower off the line and build their speed down the track. But that's
> apples vs. oranges because you are comparing a bizarre specialized
> propulsion system unique to fuel drag racing to a surplus engine sold
> for scrap price that is 50+ years old. Any jet engine made by
> Westinghouse is every bit of fifty years old, they quit making jet
> engines after the Korean War. Now if the Navy released Ottofuel II
> torpedo engines surplus and they started appearing drag cars maybe the
> solid block Hemis would be obsoleted overnight! In principle jet or
> rocket cars could beat even the current wheel driven cars with enough
> thrust to weight ratios, but not in 50 feet. Turboshaft engine
> dragsters, like the one Don Garlits built for exhibition, which use
> wheel driven power might be another matter too. Like the jets they are
> also apparently outside the rules.
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Whatever, just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top
fuel car in the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Bill can be incredibly difficult to communicate with when you are
> saying something that does not agree with what he thinks and he will
> drive you nuts if you do not really, really know your stuff. I concede
> that in general he knows more about the details of drag racing than I
> do, because I have little interest in drag racing, it's just not my
> sport. I'm sure it's a fine sport just like curling, jai alai, or
> whatever. I just don't really care about those sports, or spectator
> sports in general.
>
> What I have figured out is that the current TF or Funny Cars are now
> faster than the jets, but the jets had them beat until relatively
> recent times, and that all the trhust based cars-jets and rockets-are
> slower off the line and build their speed down the track. But that's
> apples vs. oranges because you are comparing a bizarre specialized
> propulsion system unique to fuel drag racing to a surplus engine sold
> for scrap price that is 50+ years old. Any jet engine made by
> Westinghouse is every bit of fifty years old, they quit making jet
> engines after the Korean War. Now if the Navy released Ottofuel II
> torpedo engines surplus and they started appearing drag cars maybe the
> solid block Hemis would be obsoleted overnight! In principle jet or
> rocket cars could beat even the current wheel driven cars with enough
> thrust to weight ratios, but not in 50 feet. Turboshaft engine
> dragsters, like the one Don Garlits built for exhibition, which use
> wheel driven power might be another matter too. Like the jets they are
> also apparently outside the rules.
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
fuel car in the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Bill can be incredibly difficult to communicate with when you are
> saying something that does not agree with what he thinks and he will
> drive you nuts if you do not really, really know your stuff. I concede
> that in general he knows more about the details of drag racing than I
> do, because I have little interest in drag racing, it's just not my
> sport. I'm sure it's a fine sport just like curling, jai alai, or
> whatever. I just don't really care about those sports, or spectator
> sports in general.
>
> What I have figured out is that the current TF or Funny Cars are now
> faster than the jets, but the jets had them beat until relatively
> recent times, and that all the trhust based cars-jets and rockets-are
> slower off the line and build their speed down the track. But that's
> apples vs. oranges because you are comparing a bizarre specialized
> propulsion system unique to fuel drag racing to a surplus engine sold
> for scrap price that is 50+ years old. Any jet engine made by
> Westinghouse is every bit of fifty years old, they quit making jet
> engines after the Korean War. Now if the Navy released Ottofuel II
> torpedo engines surplus and they started appearing drag cars maybe the
> solid block Hemis would be obsoleted overnight! In principle jet or
> rocket cars could beat even the current wheel driven cars with enough
> thrust to weight ratios, but not in 50 feet. Turboshaft engine
> dragsters, like the one Don Garlits built for exhibition, which use
> wheel driven power might be another matter too. Like the jets they are
> also apparently outside the rules.
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
Guest
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Re: LT1 Wrangler For Sale in Arizona (repost)
Whatever, just don't try and tell me a jet is faster than a top
fuel car in the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Bill can be incredibly difficult to communicate with when you are
> saying something that does not agree with what he thinks and he will
> drive you nuts if you do not really, really know your stuff. I concede
> that in general he knows more about the details of drag racing than I
> do, because I have little interest in drag racing, it's just not my
> sport. I'm sure it's a fine sport just like curling, jai alai, or
> whatever. I just don't really care about those sports, or spectator
> sports in general.
>
> What I have figured out is that the current TF or Funny Cars are now
> faster than the jets, but the jets had them beat until relatively
> recent times, and that all the trhust based cars-jets and rockets-are
> slower off the line and build their speed down the track. But that's
> apples vs. oranges because you are comparing a bizarre specialized
> propulsion system unique to fuel drag racing to a surplus engine sold
> for scrap price that is 50+ years old. Any jet engine made by
> Westinghouse is every bit of fifty years old, they quit making jet
> engines after the Korean War. Now if the Navy released Ottofuel II
> torpedo engines surplus and they started appearing drag cars maybe the
> solid block Hemis would be obsoleted overnight! In principle jet or
> rocket cars could beat even the current wheel driven cars with enough
> thrust to weight ratios, but not in 50 feet. Turboshaft engine
> dragsters, like the one Don Garlits built for exhibition, which use
> wheel driven power might be another matter too. Like the jets they are
> also apparently outside the rules.
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?
fuel car in the quarter mile. Period!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
calcerise@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Bill can be incredibly difficult to communicate with when you are
> saying something that does not agree with what he thinks and he will
> drive you nuts if you do not really, really know your stuff. I concede
> that in general he knows more about the details of drag racing than I
> do, because I have little interest in drag racing, it's just not my
> sport. I'm sure it's a fine sport just like curling, jai alai, or
> whatever. I just don't really care about those sports, or spectator
> sports in general.
>
> What I have figured out is that the current TF or Funny Cars are now
> faster than the jets, but the jets had them beat until relatively
> recent times, and that all the trhust based cars-jets and rockets-are
> slower off the line and build their speed down the track. But that's
> apples vs. oranges because you are comparing a bizarre specialized
> propulsion system unique to fuel drag racing to a surplus engine sold
> for scrap price that is 50+ years old. Any jet engine made by
> Westinghouse is every bit of fifty years old, they quit making jet
> engines after the Korean War. Now if the Navy released Ottofuel II
> torpedo engines surplus and they started appearing drag cars maybe the
> solid block Hemis would be obsoleted overnight! In principle jet or
> rocket cars could beat even the current wheel driven cars with enough
> thrust to weight ratios, but not in 50 feet. Turboshaft engine
> dragsters, like the one Don Garlits built for exhibition, which use
> wheel driven power might be another matter too. Like the jets they are
> also apparently outside the rules.
>
> But even if you spend hours doing the homework, line up the results,
> and have it all notarized Bill will just change the subject if it isn't
> what he likes to hear. So why bother?