Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
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That depends on point of view.
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
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> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
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That depends on point of view.
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
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That depends on point of view.
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
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It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
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> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
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http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
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> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
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It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
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http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
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It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
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http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
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This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
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This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
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This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
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Hi Mike,
I doesn't take much of a hit to jam the piston. You may not be able to
see it. But a thirty second test would to remove that plug, spring and see
if you can get the piston out. Out in the desert I drilled a hole in the
other end and took a nail and beat it back so a friend could get back home
before the oil filter blew off, again. Of course plugging that hole with a
screw.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
>
> That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
> from damage or just wear...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
--
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I doesn't take much of a hit to jam the piston. You may not be able to
see it. But a thirty second test would to remove that plug, spring and see
if you can get the piston out. Out in the desert I drilled a hole in the
other end and took a nail and beat it back so a friend could get back home
before the oil filter blew off, again. Of course plugging that hole with a
screw.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45fb1da7$0$3930$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
>
> That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
> from damage or just wear...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
--
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