Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
03-16-2007, 09:45 PM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
That depends on point of view.
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
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> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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> http://members.***.net/njnagel
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
03-16-2007, 09:45 PM
#12
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
That depends on point of view.
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
03-16-2007, 09:45 PM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
That depends on point of view.
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
Earle
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
>
> L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same
on
> > the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing
spring
> > rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> > into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide
open
> > for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually
blowing
> > the oil filter off.
> > God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> >>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> >>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> >>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> >>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> >>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> >>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> >>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
> >>
> >>thanks,
> >>
> >>nate
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> replace "roosters" with "***" to reply.
> http://members.***.net/njnagel
03-16-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
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> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
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http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
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> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
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03-16-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
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http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
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03-16-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
can get the relief piston out:
http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
motor mounts.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:--------------------
"Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>
> nate
--
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03-16-2007, 11:45 PM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
03-16-2007, 11:45 PM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
03-16-2007, 11:45 PM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
from damage or just wear...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> It may be easy, if you can get away with just replacing the dented part:
> http://www.4wheelparts.com/jeep-part...pid=JEE3226242 and if you
> can get the relief piston out:
> http://www.----------.com/temp/AMCoilPumpkit.jpg And of course replace the
> motor mounts.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:--------------------
>
> "Nate Nagel" <njnagel@roosters.net> wrote in message
> news:etfb5r01mbg@news2.newsguy.com...
>> So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
>> easy weekend project or a royal PITA?
>>
>> nate
>
>
>
03-17-2007, 01:45 AM
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
Hi Mike,
I doesn't take much of a hit to jam the piston. You may not be able to
see it. But a thirty second test would to remove that plug, spring and see
if you can get the piston out. Out in the desert I drilled a hole in the
other end and took a nail and beat it back so a friend could get back home
before the oil filter blew off, again. Of course plugging that hole with a
screw.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
>
> That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
> from damage or just wear...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
--
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I doesn't take much of a hit to jam the piston. You may not be able to
see it. But a thirty second test would to remove that plug, spring and see
if you can get the piston out. Out in the desert I drilled a hole in the
other end and took a nail and beat it back so a friend could get back home
before the oil filter blew off, again. Of course plugging that hole with a
screw.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45fb1da7$0$3930$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
> This would be visible from the outside wouldn't it?
>
> That would mean he could easily determine if the low oil pressure is
> from damage or just wear...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
--
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