Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

Hi all,

am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.

thanks,

nate

Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

N8N wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>
> thanks,
>
> nate
>

If it is priced like it has no engine in it, then it might be a deal.

On an engine that old, I would suspect the low oil pressure is due to
worn out parts like crank and cam bearings.

Putting a new oil pump in it (under the timing cover) might bring it up
a little, but that is just treating the symptoms.

If I was going to go check that, I would bring a compression tester and
a mechanical plug in oil gauge to see what is really going on.

My CJ7 originally came with a bad engine because of blowby and bad idle
even with a new carb. I checked the compression there in the driveway
and it was like new so I pinched the charcoal canister line and the idle
behaved long enough for me to think it was a runner with a little
tinkering... It was.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

N8N wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>
> thanks,
>
> nate
>

If it is priced like it has no engine in it, then it might be a deal.

On an engine that old, I would suspect the low oil pressure is due to
worn out parts like crank and cam bearings.

Putting a new oil pump in it (under the timing cover) might bring it up
a little, but that is just treating the symptoms.

If I was going to go check that, I would bring a compression tester and
a mechanical plug in oil gauge to see what is really going on.

My CJ7 originally came with a bad engine because of blowby and bad idle
even with a new carb. I checked the compression there in the driveway
and it was like new so I pinched the charcoal canister line and the idle
behaved long enough for me to think it was a runner with a little
tinkering... It was.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

N8N wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>
> thanks,
>
> nate
>

If it is priced like it has no engine in it, then it might be a deal.

On an engine that old, I would suspect the low oil pressure is due to
worn out parts like crank and cam bearings.

Putting a new oil pump in it (under the timing cover) might bring it up
a little, but that is just treating the symptoms.

If I was going to go check that, I would bring a compression tester and
a mechanical plug in oil gauge to see what is really going on.

My CJ7 originally came with a bad engine because of blowby and bad idle
even with a new carb. I checked the compression there in the driveway
and it was like new so I pinched the charcoal canister line and the idle
behaved long enough for me to think it was a runner with a little
tinkering... It was.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
easy weekend project or a royal PITA?

nate

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same on
> the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing spring
> rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide open
> for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually blowing
> the oil filter off.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
>>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
>>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
>>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
>>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
>>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
>>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
>>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>nate
>>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
easy weekend project or a royal PITA?

nate

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same on
> the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing spring
> rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide open
> for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually blowing
> the oil filter off.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
>>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
>>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
>>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
>>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
>>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
>>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
>>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>nate
>>
>
>
>
>


--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

So let's say that it needs an oil pump and timing cover. Is that a fun,
easy weekend project or a royal PITA?

nate

L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same on
> the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing spring
> rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
> into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide open
> for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually blowing
> the oil filter off.
> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
>>Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
>>with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
>>put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
>>something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
>>for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
>>Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
>>killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>nate
>>
>
>
>
>


--
replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply.
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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same on
the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing spring
rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide open
for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually blowing
the oil filter off.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>
> thanks,
>
> nate
>



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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same on
the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing spring
rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide open
for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually blowing
the oil filter off.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>
> thanks,
>
> nate
>



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Re: Low oil pressure in Wagoneer- easy fix or no?
 

What eliminates the 360" from the Civilian Jeeps and may be the same on
the Wagoneers are weak motor mounts combined usually with a missing spring
rubber bump stop that allows the oil pump and it's relief valve to smash
into the differential, jamming it in whatever position it was in, wide open
for cold, resulting low hot pressure, or closed if hot, then usually blowing
the oil filter off.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

"N8N" <njnagel@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1174058297.362257.172940@l75g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> am considering the purchase of a '79 Wagoneer, 360/2bbl/Turbo 400.
> Haven't looked at it yet but the owner says that one of the "issues"
> with it is low indicated oil pressure when hot. sounds like he hasn't
> put a calibrated gauge on it yet but he said that a common problem had
> something to do with a timing cover and that there was a kit available
> for cheap to fix, or it might be as simple as a bad gauge sender.
> Should I even bother going to look at this vehicle, or is this a deal
> killer? Owner says there is NO lifter clatter at any time.
>
> thanks,
>
> nate
>



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